Special counsel Mueller charges 12 Russian intelligence officers with hacking Democra

#702
#702
Various reactions of LG to the completion of the summit. In pictures...

At the start:

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During the meeting:

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'Bout halfway through:

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Almost at the completion:

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And completion:

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Seeing Putin and Trump on stage together:

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And:

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Hearing Trump speak:

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Hearing Trump about the hacking:

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5 seconds later:

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10 seconds after that:

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And finally:

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When Trump is taking questions:

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And the rest of us at his reaction:

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How I picture him in about two hours once the outrage wears off:

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LouderVol said:
what is Mueller thinking?
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Obsessed said:
Seems mueller and putin agree
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As was made clear in the press release, no Americans were implicated in these particular indictments.


More are coming. We'll see, won't we?








PS If I were in your shoes and I was trying to defend someone so obviously at a minimum unfit to be President due to questionable allegiances, I'd like to think I'd have the strength to put aside desire to help party with need to protect the country.


It is unfortunate that so many on the right just refuse to do that. I do think the tide is turning. And if a major one does jump ship and join in calls for this to be explained, I actually think the dam will burst because that will make it okay for party loyalists to stand up and recognize that something is wrong here. Very, very wrong.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Well, there it is! Trump just took Putin's word over that of his own Director of National Intelligence. That would be unbelievable if it was anyone other than Trump.
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* - Evidence was found over 500 days ago relating to the Guccifer 2.0 persona that showed they had deliberately manipulated files to have Russian metadata. We know the process used to construct the documents was not due to accidental mistakes during the creation process.
 
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Vol0725 said:
Does "they think", mean the same as "they know"?
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You are using Trump's words to split hairs. Dan Coats and Mike Pompeo have not minced words in their assessments in Congressional testimony that Russian agents, did in fact, hack the DNC.
 
#708
#708
No more deflecting. How can you defend this?


Trump: "My people came to me, [Director of National Intelligence] Dan Coats came to me, some others, they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia. I will say this, I don't see any reason why it would be."
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No but Obama. No but Clinton.


Defend that statement.
 
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lawgator1 said:
As was made clear in the press release, no Americans were implicated in these particular indictments.


More are coming. We'll see, won't we?








PS If I were in your shoes and I was trying to defend someone so obviously at a minimum unfit to be President due to questionable allegiances, I'd like to think I'd have the strength to put aside desire to help party with need to protect the country.


It is unfortunate that so many on the right just refuse to do that. I do think the tide is turning. And if a major one does jump ship and join in calls for this to be explained, I actually think the dam will burst because that will make it okay for party loyalists to stand up and recognize that something is wrong here. Very, very wrong.
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what I read was: partisanship is bad, its so bad, we need to come together. and then there was a string of partisanship that followed. I love it. its great.
 
#710
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BowlBrother85 said:
Well, there it is! Trump just took Putin's word over that of his own Director of National Intelligence. That would be unbelievable if it was anyone other than Trump.
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No, what he said on camera (who knows what he said to Putin behind closed doors, and what if anything Putin said or provided him about the matter) was that Coates said "they think it was Russia".
 
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Obsessed said:
* - Evidence was found over 500 days ago relating to the Guccifer 2.0 persona that showed they had deliberately manipulated files to have Russian metadata. We know the process used to construct the documents was not due to accidental mistakes during the creation process.
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:bs:
 
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lawgator1 said:
No more deflecting. How can you defend this?





No but Obama. No but Clinton.


Defend that statement.
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Think = Is ?

Trump: "My people came to me, [Director of National Intelligence] Dan Coats came to me, some others, they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia. I will say this, I don't see any reason why it would be."
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
:bs:
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On July 13th, 2018, an indictment was filed by Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III.

This author is responding to the indictment because it features claims about Guccifer 2.0 that are inconsistent with what has been discovered about the persona, including the following:

* - Evidence was found over 500 days ago relating to the Guccifer 2.0 persona that showed they had deliberately manipulated files to have Russian metadata. We know the process used to construct the documents was not due to accidental mistakes during the creation process.
* - The original template document that Guccifer 2.0 used has been identified. It is also the source of the presence of Warren Flood’s name, and can be found attached to one of Podesta’s emails (it has RSIDs matching with Guccifer 2.0’s first couple of documents).
* - The Trump opposition research, which CrowdStrike claimed was targeted at the DNC, apparently in late April 2016, isn’t what Guccifer 2.0 actually presented to reporters. It also didn’t come from the DNC, but was an attached file on one of John Podesta’s emails – not the DNC’s. This specific copy appears to have been edited by Tony Carrk shortly before it was sent to Podesta. The fact that Guccifer 2.0’s initial releases were Podesta email attachments was even conceded by a former DNC official.
* - It appears that Guccifer 2.0 fabricated evidence on June 15, 2016, that coincidentally dovetailed with multiple claims made by CrowdStrike executives that had been published the previous day.
* - Guccifer 2.0 went to considerable effort to make sure Russian error messages appeared in copies of files given to the press.
* - Evidence – which Guccifer 2.0 couldn’t manipulate due to being logged by third parties – suggests he was operating in the US.
* - Additional evidence, which Guccifer 2.0 would have been unlikely to realize “he” was leaving, indicated that the persona was archiving files in US timezones before release, with email headers giving him away early on.
* - Virtually everything that has been claimed to indicate Guccifer 2.0 was Russian was based on something he chose to do.
* - Considering that Guccifer 2.0 had access to Podesta’s emails, yet never leaked anything truly damaging to the Clinton campaign even though he would have had access to it, is highly suspicious. In fact, Guccifer 2.0 never referenced any of the scandals that would later explode when the DNC emails and Podesta email collections were published by WikiLeaks.
 
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LouderVol said:
wasn't this at the press conference with Putin?
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Yes. Trump sided with Putin. Astounding.


"My people came to me...they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia. I will say this, I don't see any reason why it would be." --Trump That's how a press conference sounds when an Asset stands next to his Handler.




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Michael Steele
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Vol0725 said:
No, what he said on camera (who knows what he said to Putin behind closed doors, and what if anything Putin said or provided him about the matter) was that Coates said "they think it was Russia".
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Read my above post in #707. Coates and Pompeo did not mince words in their Congressional testimony that Russian agents were responsible for the hacking of the DNC.
 
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#721
Coates and Pompeo
Pompeo
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Pompeo
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Pompeo
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Coates and Pompeo
 
#722
#722
BowlBrother85 said:
Read my above post in #707. Coates and Pompeo did not mince words in their Congressional testimony that Russian agents were responsible for the hacking of the DNC.
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I don’t know whether they did or didn’t. But I bet Seth Rich knows who did. Or he did....
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes. Trump sided with Putin. Astounding.
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lets me guess you would have preferred him to go WWE on Putin and broken a steel folding chair over Putin's back before declaring war and launching the nukes?

starting a pissing match up there on stage probably would have been the worst thing he could have done.
 
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Obsessed said:
On July 13th, 2018, an indictment was filed by Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III.

This author is responding to the indictment because it features claims about Guccifer 2.0 that are inconsistent with what has been discovered about the persona, including the following:

* - Evidence was found over 500 days ago relating to the Guccifer 2.0 persona that showed they had deliberately manipulated files to have Russian metadata. We know the process used to construct the documents was not due to accidental mistakes during the creation process.
* - The original template document that Guccifer 2.0 used has been identified. It is also the source of the presence of Warren Flood’s name, and can be found attached to one of Podesta’s emails (it has RSIDs matching with Guccifer 2.0’s first couple of documents).
* - The Trump opposition research, which CrowdStrike claimed was targeted at the DNC, apparently in late April 2016, isn’t what Guccifer 2.0 actually presented to reporters. It also didn’t come from the DNC, but was an attached file on one of John Podesta’s emails – not the DNC’s. This specific copy appears to have been edited by Tony Carrk shortly before it was sent to Podesta. The fact that Guccifer 2.0’s initial releases were Podesta email attachments was even conceded by a former DNC official.
* - It appears that Guccifer 2.0 fabricated evidence on June 15, 2016, that coincidentally dovetailed with multiple claims made by CrowdStrike executives that had been published the previous day.
* - Guccifer 2.0 went to considerable effort to make sure Russian error messages appeared in copies of files given to the press.
* - Evidence – which Guccifer 2.0 couldn’t manipulate due to being logged by third parties – suggests he was operating in the US.
* - Additional evidence, which Guccifer 2.0 would have been unlikely to realize “he” was leaving, indicated that the persona was archiving files in US timezones before release, with email headers giving him away early on.
* - Virtually everything that has been claimed to indicate Guccifer 2.0 was Russian was based on something he chose to do.
* - Considering that Guccifer 2.0 had access to Podesta’s emails, yet never leaked anything truly damaging to the Clinton campaign even though he would have had access to it, is highly suspicious. In fact, Guccifer 2.0 never referenced any of the scandals that would later explode when the DNC emails and Podesta email collections were published by WikiLeaks.
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Even more total BS! Great!
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Read my above post in #707. Coates and Pompeo did not mince words in their Congressional testimony that Russian agents were responsible for the hacking of the DNC.
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I'm not defending Putin...just curious, did they say they know for a fact that it was the Russian government (Putin) that hacked the DNC? Do you have to examine the server to have 100% certainty?
 
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