landscapingvol
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So you admit Trump won the election fairly?
You're still asking me to believe politicians(people who lie for a living) without actual evidence. I'm not afflicted with partisanship, so I don't tend to follow blindly. I believe in evidence, but I need to actually see that evidence to know it exists. Telling me it exists, then not showing it to me does absolutely nothing.
You sound like one of those moon landing hoax freaks. So, I will just tell you what the great Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin said to the infamous conspiracy theorist Bart Sibrel, just before punching his lights out.
"I would take the time to present you evidence if I thought it would make any difference. However, your mind is closed and your right eye will be as well, if you don't get that f***ing camera out of my face!"
You can ignore the part after: "... if I thought it would make any difference. However, your mind is closed...". I just threw that in because it's funny.
For one thing, everyone knows that Obama was still the President of the United States in 2016, the media shouldn't have to report things that are common knowledge to the average 8 year old.
For another thing, Obama has already answered Trump's question. Yes, Obama thought that Hillary Clinton would win the election and he was also too sensitive to the perception that any measures he took during the campaign would be seen as favoritism toward Clinton. Obama made a mistake. He deserves to be criticized for it and he has been. Now, where is the condemnation of Russia from our nation's current leadership?
Lol... I'm sure that has to be it.
I'm being serious. What else could it be? Certainly not an attempt to flip the state to Trump. Hillary won it by almost a million votes.
Duckworth was running against an incumbent Republican named Mark Kirk. She beat him easily but trying to influence that election makes much more sense than trying to flip Illinois red for Trump. That makes no sense.
The Hill reporting that the state hacked by Russia was likely Illinois.... which if you know anything about Illinois politics is a very Illinois kind of thing.
As political as things always seem... I really think what we're going to find is a general strategy to destabilize and undermine without regard for winners and losers.
Now, this truly is head in sand. The Russians clearly did have a very strong preference for Trump over Hillary Clinton in 2016. I don't see how this can be denied any longer.
Of course you don't. For right or for wrong, you're still trying to justify your vote. I don't blame you.
You may end up being right but I have a hard time believing this was a one off occurrence that just started in 2016.
An effort that was known for quite some time and not cared about as the party in charge thought it was to their benefit.

