TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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Orangeslice13 said:
Serious question.
Have you offered an opinion on anything since you came to this forum? All I’ve seen you do is insult. Is that because you can’t defend your beliefs?

If you want to sling insults without any substance maybe you should check out the zone.
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He's an SJW liberal. That's the only explanation I can think of for his complete lack of substance and constant insults in his posts.
 
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Mick said:
Sure it would. Assange is still hiding out in the London Embassy from our reach because he leaked the very thing we sought in any bargain.

Praise wikileaks and praise Russia. Your brainwashing is complete.
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What exactly has Julian Assange done wrong in your opinion?

Never published false information.

100% accurate.

What is your problem with this?

The Russian / Assange connection has never been proven. It is a distraction from the strong possibility that an internal leak at the DNC provided the emails.

His name was Seth Rich.

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ajvol01 said:
What exactly has Julian Assange done wrong in your opinion?

Never published false information.

100% accurate.

What is your problem with this?

The Russian / Assange connection has never been proven. It is a distraction from the strong possibility that an internal leak at the DNC provided the emails.

His name was Seth Rich.

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions said at a news conference Thursday that Assange's arrest is a "priority."
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"WikiLeaks "directed Chelsea Manning to intercept specific secret information, and it overwhelmingly focuses on the United States.""It's time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is: A non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia," Mike Pompeo said.
"US intelligence agencies have also determined that Russian intelligence used WikiLeaks to publish emails aimed at undermining the campaign of Hillary Clinton, as part of a broader operation to meddle in the US 2016 presidential election. Hackers working for Russian intelligence agencies stole thousands of emails from the Democratic National Committee and officials in the Clinton campaign and used intermediaries to pass along the documents to WikiLeaks, according to a public assessment by all US intelligence agencies."
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Rep. Peter King, R-New York, told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that based on CNN's reporting, "I'm glad that the Justice Department has found a way to go after Assange. He's gotten a free ride for too long."
King said Assange has "caused tremendous damage to our national security, put American lives at risk."
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Just stop with the Seth Rich BS. Makes you look like a babbling buffoon.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I still want to know how the FBI, NSA, CIA and other alphabet agencies determined Russia was behind everything without ever having seen the servers for themselves...
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They used cybersecurity experts and firms like Crowdstrike, Fidelis, Fireeye, Mandiant, SecureWorks, Symantic, and ThreatConnect. They all came to a consensus conclusion that Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear, Russian intelligence hackers were responsible because of patterns and code identified previously. SecureWorks was also able to determine that the actor group was operating from Russia on behalf of the Russian government.
 
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TennTom said:
They used cybersecurity experts and firms like Crowdstrike, Fidelis, Fireeye, Mandiant, SecureWorks, Symantic, and ThreatConnect. They all came to a consensus conclusion that Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear, Russian intelligence hackers were responsible because of patterns and code identified previously. SecureWorks was also able to determine that the actor group was operating from Russia on behalf of the Russian government.
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The same Crowdstrike that was contracted by the DNC?

Hmmm...

Isn't that equal to the mob asking a private investigator to "look into" a case involving them and the police accepting the findings without ever looking at the evidence themselves?

Now, I'll ask the question (which you'll ignore) that I've been asking ever since the alleged hacking went on. Why wasn't the US Government allowed to see those servers? I mean, if you wanted a clear cut case of proven hacking by a foreign government, wouldn't you WANT your own government to see the evidence for themselves instead of being told by a third party?

Exactly what is the DNC hiding on those servers?
 
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TennTom said:
They used cybersecurity experts and firms like Crowdstrike, Fidelis, Fireeye, Mandiant, SecureWorks, Symantic, and ThreatConnect. They all came to a consensus conclusion that Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear, Russian intelligence hackers were responsible because of patterns and code identified previously. SecureWorks was also able to determine that the actor group was operating from Russia on behalf of the Russian government.
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you know one of the things leaked was the the CIA could alter that electronic trail to make it look like who ever they wanted.....

not hard to believe others don't have that ability as well.
 
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LouderVol said:
you know one of the things leaked was the the CIA could alter that electronic trail to make it look like who ever they wanted.....

not hard to believe others don't have that ability as well.
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These are the best expects in the world examining this, I'm sure in tandem with our intelligence agencies. Nothing gets by them.
 
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Grand Vol said:
The same Crowdstrike that was contracted by the DNC?

Hmmm...

Isn't that equal to the mob asking a private investigator to "look into" a case involving them and the police accepting the findings without ever looking at the evidence themselves?

Now, I'll ask the question (which you'll ignore) that I've been asking ever since the alleged hacking went on. Why wasn't the US Government allowed to see those servers? I mean, if you wanted a clear cut case of proven hacking by a foreign government, wouldn't you WANT your own government to see the evidence for themselves instead of being told by a third party?

Exactly what is the DNC hiding on those servers?
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They used private cybersecurity firms like anyone would do. Quit trying to make something out of this that isn't there. You make yourself look like some of the resident kooks here. You're above that.
 
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TennTom said:
They used private cybersecurity firms like anyone would do. Quit trying to make something out of this that isn't there. You make yourself look like some of the resident kooks here. You're above that.
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So, why won't you answer the question?

Why did the DNC not allow the federal government investigating agencies access to those servers? They requested it, but were turned down.

Two simple questions.
 
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Compare and contrast:

Mike Pompeo: “I’m confident that when the president meets with Vladimir Putin he will make clear that meddling in our elections is completely unacceptable." -- June 27th

Donald Trump: "Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!" --June 28th
 
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Grand Vol said:
The same Crowdstrike that was contracted by the DNC?

Hmmm...

Isn't that equal to the mob asking a private investigator to "look into" a case involving them and the police accepting the findings without ever looking at the evidence themselves?

Now, I'll ask the question (which you'll ignore) that I've been asking ever since the alleged hacking went on. Why wasn't the US Government allowed to see those servers? I mean, if you wanted a clear cut case of proven hacking by a foreign government, wouldn't you WANT your own government to see the evidence for themselves instead of being told by a third party?

Exactly what is the DNC hiding on those servers?
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How can they tell the Government no? Wouldn't this be a case of National Security?

I don't really care what they may be hiding on those servers but I find it very hard to believe that Podesta fell for such a simple fishing scam.
 
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TennTom said:
I did answer. Not my fault you can't accept it.
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That wasn't an answer, it was a cop out.

Again, why did the DNC deny access to the Federal Government during the investigation? Don't give me this "they contracted it out" nonsense. In such a case, I'd feel you'd want EVERY agency possible, public and private, to see the evidence for themselves.
 
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Grand Vol said:
That wasn't an answer, it was a cop out.

Again, why did the DNC deny access to the Federal Government during the investigation? Don't give me this "they contracted it out" nonsense. In such a case, I'd feel you'd want EVERY agency possible, public and private, to see the evidence for themselves.
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I find it comical that you now have so much faith in the intelligence agencies to properly investigate that those on your side have been bashing for the last year. Good stuff.
 
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Grand Vol said:
That wasn't an answer, it was a cop out.

Again, why did the DNC deny access to the Federal Government during the investigation? Don't give me this "they contracted it out" nonsense. In such a case, I'd feel you'd want EVERY agency possible, public and private, to see the evidence for themselves.
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the answer that Tom is dancing around is this, they had sensitive information on those servers that would be damning. It's obvious to everyone that isn't a hack
 
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TennTom said:
I find it comical that you now have so much faith in the intelligence agencies to properly investigate that those on your side have been bashing for the last year. Good stuff.
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Pretty evasive response there.

I have this feeling the reasons are far more nefarious than you can comprehend. If I was to toss on my cop hat, I'd equate the DNC allowing a federal LE agency access as the same as that moron in Florida that took his meth to the police to be tested because he thought he got ripped off.
 
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theFallGuy said:
the answer that Tom is dancing around is this, they had sensitive information on those servers that would be damning. It's obvious to everyone that isn't a hack
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Yeah, I bet the RNC wouldn't have any compromising info on their server. :eyeroll:


Look, they chose to let firms they trust to do the work and that they maintain control over the investigation. There's nothing unusual about that.
 
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