Trump says US will institute tariffs on steel and aluminum imports next week

I’m a right leaning former Democrat independent.

And I still don’t know what I think about the tariffs.
Again.....not a Republican but I can pretend and argue for them regardless of what I actually think if it will help you get through the day.
What Trump is doing with tariffs is about like union workers going on strike. There will be concessions made by somebody, generally the one with the most to lose..
 
Not a fan of tariffs but I never thought Trump was doing it because he thinks tariffs are a good thing. Just a tool to position people at the negotiating table.
 
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I think everyone understands that. Trump is playing the long game here. Retaliatory action for the barriers that other countries have constructed. And even worse in China’s case is their rampant theft of intellectual property.

But I think it goes beyond that for Trump too. China steals our intellectual property, manipulated their currency, and engages in other market disruptions that benefit themselves and so long as nobody confronts them on it, will be poised to assume leadership of the global economy. Europeans don’t care. They’re complacent being in second or third place. But as Americans I think it’s in our best interest to confront them. A trade war we can potentially win. So it’s one option. What do you think should be done, if anything?

Trump is posturing and there is no denying it. He's also correct that many of the existing deals in place aren't beneficial to the US.... and China?.... there isn't a patent they won't steal
 
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Trump is posturing and there is no denying it. He's also correct that many of the existing deals in place aren't beneficial to the US.... and China?.... there isn't a patent they won't steal

Trade is always beneficial. What you mean is you think they are uneven deals. The deals always create a system of trade that is mutually beneficial, otherwise we wouldn't trade.
 
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What Trump is doing with tariffs is about like union workers going on strike. There will be concessions made by somebody, generally the one with the most to lose..

About the most concise accurate statement about this thing I have read. Kudos.It will get *****y and people will panic.

Can someone point out the actual tariffs each country has on imports for certain years? I googled it last week and came up with gooblygok.


But as far as China, the IP theft needs to stop now.
 
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Trade is always beneficial. What you mean is you think they are uneven deals. The deals always create a system of trade that is mutually beneficial, otherwise we wouldn't trade.

What is “Fair” Trade to you?
Does double and triple digit % tariffs against American products seem fair, when we charge them nothing or next to nothing in comparison?
 
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Fair trade is bull**** concept invented by special interests and central planners

If you and your wife were swingers would it be fair for her to indulge in all types of deviant behaviors and you only do the handie thing? Is this what you mean by free trade?
 
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Huh ????????????🙄🙄🙄
Geez forget it

Trade is not business. Trade is trade. The two are related but not the same thing. Trade is mutually beneficial to both parties (countries). You're talking about competing businesses, which is too narrow of a view for policy making. There is much more to an economy than say steel and aluminum manufacturers. When you centrally plan trade to benefit favored businesses, you are ****ing over everybody else.
 
I’m in business and it’s war.

Me to. Gotta produce or no checkie. Do a little international commerce, and if a nation is impacting my ability to commence trade with barriers, it is impacting me. NOT FAIR!

Seriously, does someone have a comprehensive paper on the tariffs that each nation/entity implements. We hear anecdotes of dairy products, etc, but I would like to see a layman understandible paper. It is certainly more complex with gov subs, but at least give a somewhat baseline.
 
Trade is not business. Trade is trade. The two are related but not the same thing. Trade is mutually beneficial to both parties (countries). You're talking about competing businesses, which is too narrow of a view for policy making. There is much more to an economy than say steel and aluminum manufacturers. When you centrally plan trade to benefit favored businesses, you are ****ing over everybody else.

Now I’m clear on what you’re saying
 
Trade is not business. Trade is trade. The two are related but not the same thing. Trade is mutually beneficial to both parties (countries). You're talking about competing businesses, which is too narrow of a view for policy making. There is much more to an economy than say steel and aluminum manufacturers. When you centrally plan trade to benefit favored businesses, you are ****ing over everybody else.

Really..Trade is not business? Sure, one is domestic trade and the other is international. I trade everyday domestically and sometimes internationally.

The very definition of business is "trade".

As far as steel/aluminum, this is just an opening salvo as you are witnessing.
 
Really..Trade is not business? Sure, one is domestic trade and the other is international. I trade everyday domestically and sometimes internationally.

The very definition of business is "trade".

As far as steel/aluminum, this is just an opening salvo as you are witnessing.

We're talking about international trade policy, not all trade. Put your baseball cards away.
 
What Trump is doing with tariffs is about like union workers going on strike. There will be concessions made by somebody, generally the one with the most to lose..

When it's us against the world, we very well may be the one with the most to lose.
 

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