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Ehhhhhh I have about as low of an opinion as one possibly can about butch jones. I really think he’s one of the worst coaches I’ve ever had the misfortune of watching.

I agree the players were to blame but I place a huge amount of blame on butch. This year will show whether that’s fair or not

I’m not gonna sit here and act like butch should be coaching middle school. He’s just couldn’t handle the scrutiny and the spotlight of a big job at Tennessee. It’s easier when you’re rebuilding and no one has pressure on them but once we “arrived” he proved he couldn’t handle it. Our motto the year with Dobbs and kamara was “own it” and he literally could not do that himself.
 
That’s a tough one for me. Our program could use an 8-4 year so bad.
If we get Taulia I take it all day, but having to chose between McBride and shout makes me cringe. Going 8-4 and than 5-7 would be a really bad look. Better to go 6-6 with JG, let him develop, and hope he makes a big jump the next season
 
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Obviously hypothetical here but if I could guarantee you that Chryst Starts and we go 8-4, but JG transfers would you take it?

What if hypothtically JG could get those same 8 wins? That is a tough one. Who is going to be the qb next year in that scenario, because it sure as heck ain't going to be Chryst, and JG will be gone imo.
 
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If we get Taulia I take it all day, but having to chose between McBride and shout makes me cringe. Going 8-4 and than 5-7 would be a really bad look. Better to go 6-6 with JG, let him develop, and hope he makes a big jump the next season

That's where I'm at, plus you are going to have a really hard time convincing me Chryst is going to get those two more wins.
 
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How could you say yes? That means we will have a major drop off in year two with McBride or shrout at QB

Or it would mean that Pruitt matched Butch's best in year 1, and clearly can coach...and recruit...and more than likely he'll get somebody in who can do the job. So 'yes'.
 
What makes you say JG is so much better than either of those 2?
Because McBride is trash? 42.5% passing against two horrible defenses. Shrout has upside but I doubt he will be ready next year.

The judgement of JG here is ridiculous. It was his first year playing and it was for the worst team in Tennessee history under what I consider the worst coaching staff Tennessee has ever had on offense. He didn’t look at for a freshman. All of his mistakes were things that will improve with experience
 
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Because McBride is trash? 42.5% passing against two horrible defenses. Shrout has upside but I doubt he will be ready next year.

The judgement of JG here is ridiculous. It was his first year playing and it was for the worst team in Tennessee history under what I consider the worst coaching staff Tennessee has ever had on offense. He didn’t look at for a freshman. All of his mistakes were things that will improve with experience

That was not the worst team in Tennessee history. They did have the worst record though.
 
Nothing against JG, I’d take it in a heartbeat. If we go 8-4 we’re gonna be taking some major momentum into next season recruiting wise.

With that said, I think JG will show improvement regardless of whether he’s the day 1 starter.
Stop thinking short term. It would be a disaster to go 8-4 and then get worse the next year because of incompetent QB play. Would kill recruiting and now with the new transfer rule you would probably see several kids leave.
 
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Because McBride is trash? 42.5% passing against two horrible defenses. Shrout has upside but I doubt he will be ready next year.

The judgement of JG here is ridiculous. It was his first year playing and it was for the worst team in Tennessee history under what I consider the worst coaching staff Tennessee has ever had on offense. He didn’t look at for a freshman. All of his mistakes were things that will improve with experience

Plus..and most important..The worst OL I have ever seen in Orange.
 
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