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GreyWolf1129 said:
Thanks. As I said earlier, gun fund empty for now, but I'll save this post for future reference.
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Honestly, sometimes it's easier just to go with a new complete upper than to rebarrel.

(Eventually, I'm going to change your life by moving you away from that FSB)
 
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27 cents/round. Good deal. About the best you can do on ammoseek is around .30/round.

I found 500 rounds of the Federal 556SBCT 62gr JSP there for .78/round last week, and it had been running at anywhere from $1.20 to $1.40/round for a while now. So I grabbed it up to finish my "reserve" of the 62gr JSP.

I also haunt SGAmmo and TargetsSportsUSA for good deals.

I've learned...sometimes the hard way...that if you're willing to wait a bit, you can generally find most 5.56 ammo at a reasonable price.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Honestly, sometimes it's easier just to go with a new complete upper than to rebarrel.

(Eventually, I'm going to change your life by moving you away from that FSB)
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I'm open to whatever will work best for me. Right now I'm (a) happy with the 1/9 twist, and (b) broke, but it never hurts to do a little pre-op research.

I've got a few balloons in the air. Should I put a scope on AR #2? Definitely will put a Geissele trigger in it. Hogue grip. B5 stock. Magpul sling. Already have the ammo and mags, so I'm good there. But the money adds up quickly, so I'll take my time with it.

All a 1/7 twist does for me is open up the heavier bullet range, which...of course...opens up the wallet again.

We'll see where we are this fall. Already come a long ways from back when it was a stock 6721.
 
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#6,506
GreyWolf1129 said:
Okay, so NOW I’m broke. Ordered a Nikon P-223 3-9X40 for AR #2.
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For the money that's a pretty neat system. I'm not typically a fan of BDC reticles but this one is functional.

Google Nikon Spot On App. It's basically a ballistic calculator designed for that scope and it's fairly accurate if you feed it the correct information.

The reticle is accurate for holdovers. Be aware that it is not a true MOA turret adjustment. It is 1/4 inch per click. The turrets on mine aren't very accurate and don't track very well anyway.... but you don't buy a scope like this if you are dialing elevation. Do a box test and a tall target test if you intend to dial. Maybe yours will be more accurate. If not, zero it, use the very functional reticle and leave the turrets zeroed.

Let me know how you like it. Enjoy your scope
 
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txbo said:
For the money that's a pretty neat system. I'm not typically a fan of BDC reticles but this one is functional.

Google Nikon Spot On App. It's basically a ballistic calculator designed for that scope and it's fairly accurate if you feed it the correct information.

The reticle is accurate for holdovers. Be aware that it is not a true MOA turret adjustment. It is 1/4 inch per click. The turrets on mine aren't very accurate and don't track very well anyway.... but you don't buy a scope like this if you are dialing elevation. Do a box test and a tall target test if you intend to dial. Maybe yours will be more accurate. If not, zero it, use the very functional reticle and leave the turrets zeroed.

Let me know how you like it. Enjoy your scope
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I've always viewed the whole purpose of a BDC as being to eliminate the need for turning knobs.
 
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hndog609 said:
I've always viewed the whole purpose of a BDC as being to eliminate the need for turning knobs.
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It's basically a crutch for not using a standard system of angular measure (MOA/MIL). For certain hunting applications at known distances it can have it's advantages. Also there are compromises when using a budget scope. In this case, you get very useable glass, an accurate reticle but compromise in the turrets.
 
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So did any of you guys who live in or around Tampa go to the Special Operations Forces Industry Conference a couple weekends ago? They had a mock battle in Tampa harbor and it sounded like they had some great stuff at the convention center.
 
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Spot On was a selling point. Like I said before, I can do nautical astronomy calculations. but I can’t calculate a 20% tip at Longhorn. I’m looking for a simple scope that will put me within 4-6” of POA out to 200-300 yds.
 
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txbo said:
It's basically a crutch for not using a standard system of angular measure (MOA/MIL). For certain hunting applications at known distances it can have it's advantages. Also there are compromises when using a budget scope. In this case, you get very useable glass, an accurate reticle but compromise in the turrets.
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With the near ubiquity of range finders these days (name brands for under $200) getting the correct range has never been easier. Assuming you have your ballistic dope right (all bets are off if your velocity/BC values are wrong of course) it makes things pretty easy, and pretty much instant, to align the reticle point and have correct holdover.



To your point about turrets I'm assuming most scopes outfitted with BDC rets aren't designed for twisting other than zeroing different loads once originally sighted in.
 
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hndog609 said:
With the near ubiquity of range finders these days (name brands for under $200) getting the correct range has never been easier. Assuming you have your ballistic dope right (all bets are off if your velocity/BC values are wrong of course) it makes things pretty easy, and pretty much instant, to align the reticle point and have correct holdover.

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But.....
1) I want to have the skills to range a shot without batteries.
2) The very best BDC reticle can only be precise with one barrel shooting one load in one atmospheric condition.
 
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hndog609 said:
To your point about turrets I'm assuming most scopes outfitted with BDC rets aren't designed for twisting other than zeroing different loads once originally sighted in.
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Wouldn't you say an exposed non-locking turret was designed for dialing?

ETA.... Having said that, I would agree with you that most people buying a BDC reticle are doing so because they have no intention of dialing.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Spot On was a selling point. Like I said before, I can do nautical astronomy calculations. but I can’t calculate a 20% tip at Longhorn. I’m looking for a simple scope that will put me within 4-6” of POA out to 200-300 yds.
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This scope will do what you want it to do very well..... and at a good price.
 
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txbo said:
This scope will do what you want it to do very well..... and at a good price.
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Thanks for the info. I think I'll be happy. I don't want to just let that 2nd 6721 just sit there. I bought it with the idea that should anything happen to #1, I could just move everything (trigger, Aimpoint, light, stock, etc.) to #2, and keep on rolling.

But the longer that gun sat there in my closet, the more I started thinking. Since AR#1 is set up for patrol / CQB / HD...why not set #2 up for more long range stuff. You know, for when the Zombies show up. I figured it would be a lot cheaper if I did something before GV got inside my head (again), so I did some online research; talked to a few firearms guys I know; and figured there's no such thing as "broke-er", so why not?

That scope was apparently designed specifically for AR's, and the 55gr load, so that's a plus. The Spot On app is a plus, since I'll likely run the 62gr TAP and Federal SBCT's for long range stuff. The price was hard to believe.

Oh...stopped into Academy Sports to pick up a hard case for AR#2. They just happened to have that same scope in the store, for $30 more than I paid for mine. But that thing is huge. I know it'll fit, but Good Lord.

On the other hand, point and click out to 300+ yards is the redneck version of "safe space", so I'm all warm and fuzzy right now. I know I can dial it in at 50 yards for a 200 yard zero, but I'm already asking around to see if there's a place around here where I can actually try it at 200-300 yards.

But this is it. I promise. Management loves me, but she has pointed out that I have spent more on ammo and AR parts in the last 6 months than I have on her. 'round here, that's what we call a "warning shot".

GV, that last part was intended for you.

:salute:
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
But this is it. I promise. Management loves me, but she has pointed out that I have spent more on ammo and AR parts in the last 6 months than I have on her. 'round here, that's what we call a "warning shot".

GV, that last part was intended for you.

:salute:
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I point you in the right direction. You pull the trigger.

I am blameless.
 
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Article from a couple of years back, but good info on AR mags.

Gunfighter Moment - Mike Pannone - Soldier Systems Daily

I found #4 to make me chuckle.

4.) Kicking, throwing, or generally abusing/misusing them. For instance, they can open bottles but they are not bottle openers. You fill in the rest from your experience. The only use for a magazine is to hold bullets and reliably feed your rifle.
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That's like telling a child not to get into the open plate of cookies on the kitchen table while the parents go away on a three day vacation.

Must...try...this...
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
So.....I make a good scope choice? For the money.

And I never blame you for anything you make me do.

As far as you know.

:)
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Generally can't go wrong with Nikon.

However, it won't be long before you start asking questions about that mythical creature called a "gas block."
 
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Grand Vol said:
Generally can't go wrong with Nikon.

However, it won't be long before you start asking questions about that mythical creature called a "gas block."
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Just out of sheer curiosity. who did you play with before I stumbled into your trap?

Asking for a friend.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Just out of sheer curiosity. who did you play with before I stumbled into your trap?

Asking for a friend.
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Yeah, you're a downgrade.
 
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