Fulmer is the 14th highest paid AD

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JonGrudensAgent said:
I honestly don't disagree with you in the least given the state of affairs with the program.

I just don't like seeing UT shelling out top 25 salaries for one unproven commodity after another.

And, despite all the optimism around Fulmer and Pruitt, that's what we have currently.
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I understand. Lord knows I wish it was different, but until I figure out how to fix it, I'll just ride the ride and do my best to enjoy it. Who knows, maybe they got lucky and got it right this time.

**Luz at MC.
 
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Some of those on the high end of that list give me a "WTF" moment.

Wake Forest? Texas Tech? Northwestern? Arkansas? Not exactly power programs.
 
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VolinMC said:
Fulmer may or may not work out in the long run but he seems to be doing alright now.
Is this AD worship? Just checking.
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He inherited Currie's coaching list and picked up at the spot where Currie was when he left. He gave the job to the first person who said "yes." Truly inspired. Why is Pruitt just now taking a head coaching gig? He had to have been offered before now, right?
 
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gunner said:
He's always been a bit of a night owl. I think mostly because of insomnia.
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He works all day counting up the money VN makes for him.

Then he works all night keeping the site great for us.

He may die of over-exertion, but he will be one rich and successful corpse. :good!:
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Orange I need to see your Optimologist (for all you haters I know this isn't a real thing) lol! Heck I'm super optimistic about this upcoming season but you my friend take the cake! Go Vols!
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Favorite new word. Optimologist.

Thanks, Chizzle. :hi:
 
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OnlyGodForgives said:
He inherited Currie's coaching list and picked up at the spot where Currie was when he left. He gave the job to the first person who said "yes." Truly inspired. Why is Pruitt just now taking a head coaching gig? He had to have been offered before now, right?
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He turned down Mississippi State and could’ve snapped up any mid-major job over the years. Leach said yes by all accounts, so you’re wrong there. And it’s a reasonable assumption that the other finalists for the job didn’t say no...Steele was interviewed before Pruitt. :hi:
 
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OnlyGodForgives said:
He inherited Currie's coaching list and picked up at the spot where Currie was when he left. He gave the job to the first person who said "yes." Truly inspired. Why is Pruitt just now taking a head coaching gig? He had to have been offered before now, right?
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Well, like just about every other post you author, this one is complete bulls**t. Currie was all over the map trying to get a sitting P5 Head coach after the uprising over Schiano, who was Haslam’s boy, and therefore Currie’s boy...Doeren, Brohm, Gundy, Leach were the guys JC went after....all are current, offense-minded head coaches.

After Currie’s sorry, incompetent arse was fired, Fulmer, who is no fan of Currie and who very likely has never shared a similar thought with JC in his lifetime, completely recalibrated by shifting his attention to 3 current top Defensive Coordinators....Tucker of Georgia, Steele of Auburn and Pruitt of Alabama....those were the 3 he interviewed, all with the same mindset and background of a top flight defensive coordinator, all 3 vastly different from the offensive-minded head coaches Currie targeted. He had his choice of any of the 3, and Pruitt was the one he wanted and got. Not hard to understand.
 
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Orange defense said:
That is good. When Fulmer was hired from day one, the culture changed that day. The craziness, turmoil, and confusion came to an end, and put a stop to the agony of six to eight months of heck that was going on. Fulmer even went further with the hiring of Pruitt, and now the culture has doubled changed for good. Recruiting is starting to pick up, and we are starting to land some big ones right to our door. 2018 wasn’t to bad either, and these recruits that are coming in, you’ll see a difference in this football team. Fulmer has became a great AD, and is/has earned his money. Thanks Fulmer for being here, and having the love for UT orange that you care about so deeply.👍💥👌
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One of the most remarkable things I've ever witnessed concerning UT Sports. It was like the day an armistice was declared. Everything went quiet. I think even entrenched Fulmer haters breathed a sigh of relief. Not because they became fans, but because the debacle had came unwound so badly. Most were very thankful he was there to step in and stop the insanity.
 
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volfannbama said:
May want to check stats on weatherby/ saban.

And no he didnt outrecruit any team 5 coach you named, we ranked 20 / 8 in sec. Every team you named is ahead of us.
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I didn’t say out recruit. I said he has stolen a couple of recruits already from Auburn and Alabama.
 
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livefaith said:
One of the most remarkable things I've ever witnessed concerning UT Sports. It was like the day an armistice was declared. Everything went quiet. I think even entrenched Fulmer haters breathed a sigh of relief. Not because they became fans, but because the debacle had came unwound so badly. Most were very thankful he was there to step in and stop the insanity.
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You know, it took him a while to stop it, but he cleaned up the football program very quickly. Hiring Pruitt kind of hushed things down from the media from the bashing of the program.
 
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Behr said:
I understand. Lord knows I wish it was different, but until I figure out how to fix it, I'll just ride the ride and do my best to enjoy it. Who knows, maybe they got lucky and got it right this time.

**Luz at MC.
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That's all any of us can do...roll with the changes.

Pruitt and Helton could well be the magic dust this program needs. Only time will tell. Very small sample size thus far but it seems a little rocky to me.
 
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Orange defense said:
That is good. When Fulmer was hired from day one, the culture changed that day. The craziness, turmoil, and confusion came to an end, and put a stop to the agony of six to eight months of heck that was going on. Fulmer even went further with the hiring of Pruitt, and now the culture has doubled changed for good. Recruiting is starting to pick up, and we are starting to land some big ones right to our door. 2018 wasn’t to bad either, and these recruits that are coming in, you’ll see a difference in this football team. Fulmer has became a great AD, and is/has earned his money. Thanks Fulmer for being here, and having the love for UT orange that you care about so deeply.👍💥👌
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He CAN become a great AD. The fact is though, he hasn't done anything yet to garner such a label as "great".

This is the sort of post that makes our fan base look like a bunch of yahoos
 
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114VOL said:
He CAN become a great AD. The fact is though, he hasn't done anything yet to garner such a label as "great".

This is the sort of post that makes our fan base look like a bunch of yahoos
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Dont Fulmer and Pruitt make a great team, along with this staff?




FUN FACT:

#Vols average star rating for the CURRENT roster (players already on campus AND players who will join the team in the summer) is 3.36.

Florida’s is 3.32.

Any time you can be better than the Gators is a good day. 🍊
 
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Orange defense said:
Dont Fulmer and Pruitt make a great team, along with this staff?



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FUN FACT:

#Vols average star rating for the CURRENT roster (players already on campus AND players who will join the team in the summer) is 3.36.

Florida’s is 3.32.

Any time you can be better than the Gators is a good day. 🍊
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They're not a ''team''! Fulmer is his boss. Fulmer isn't supposed to be chiming in on the details of how the football team is managed, and I don't think he has to this point, which is a good thing. Fulmer has a bunch of other matters besides football to deal with in his plethora of responsibilities. So to answer your question, no, because they're not supposed to be a team.
 
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114VOL said:
They're not a ''team''! Fulmer is his boss. Fulmer isn't supposed to be chiming in on the details of how the football team is managed, and I don't think he has to this point, which is a good thing. Fulmer has a bunch of other matters besides football to deal with in his plethora of responsibilities. So to answer your question, no, because they're not supposed to be a team.
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They are a team. Not a football team. But a team.

Every boss in every field ever organized seeks to form the people who work for them into a team. You know, people who share a goal and cooperate to reach it.

--> Lead surgeons form teams of their surgical staff.

--> CEOs create teams from all their VPs and other key leaders (who in turn create teams within the bigger team).

--> Athletic Directors make teams out of their coaches and AD office staff.

So sure, Phillip and Jeremy are a team, along with Holly and Rick and Tony and Ralph and Karen and....

But they're not all leading the football team, no. That's Jeremy's team within the bigger team.


p.s. More directly to your point -- If you think Phillip isn't taking some of the "head coach" burden off Jeremy so he can focus on players and assistant coaches and Xs and Os, you're almost certainly wrong. I'd bet big money that Phillip is handling a significant number of representational duties, and business matters, and administrivia, and so on, that in the past were handled by Butch or Derek or Lane or...even Phillip as coach.

He's doing that to give the first year head football coach some "quality time" in his principle duties. Betcha money.

And that's teamwork.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
They are a team. Not a football team. But a team.

Every boss in every field ever organized seeks to form the people who work for them into a team. You know, people who share a goal and cooperate to reach it.

--> Lead surgeons form teams of their surgical staff.

--> CEOs create teams from all their VPs and other key leaders (who in turn create teams within the bigger team).

--> Athletic Directors make teams out of their coaches and AD office staff.

So sure, Phillip and Jeremy are a team, along with Holly and Rick and Tony and Ralph and Karen and....

But they're not all leading the football team, no. That's Jeremy's team within the bigger team.
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Yes, I know all of that. Thanks for the unnecessary explanation. In the sense the poster was talking, no, they are not a team.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
They are a team. Not a football team. But a team.

Every boss in every field ever organized seeks to form the people who work for them into a team. You know, people who share a goal and cooperate to reach it.

--> Lead surgeons form teams of their surgical staff.

--> CEOs create teams from all their VPs and other key leaders (who in turn create teams within the bigger team).

--> Athletic Directors make teams out of their coaches and AD office staff.

So sure, Phillip and Jeremy are a team, along with Holly and Rick and Tony and Ralph and Karen and....

But they're not all leading the football team, no. That's Jeremy's team within the bigger team.


p.s. More directly to your point -- If you think Phillip isn't taking some of the "head coach" burden off Jeremy so he can focus on players and assistant coaches and Xs and Os, you're almost certainly wrong. I'd bet big money that Phillip is handling a significant number of representational duties, and business matters, and administrivia, and so on, that in the past were handled by Butch or Derek or Lane or...even Phillip as coach.

He's doing that to give the first year head football coach some "quality time" in his principle duties. Betcha money.

And that's teamwork.
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YOu're probably right that he is doing those things. We'll see how that works out for the rest of the department.

His handling of Holly will tell us everything we need to know about his executive skills and effectiveness as a leader. Right now, some are scratching their heads because of his inaction on the matter
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
That's all any of us can do...roll with the changes.

Pruitt and Helton could well be the magic dust this program needs. Only time will tell. Very small sample size thus far but it seems a little rocky to me.
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I know dude, sometimes its hard to say the same things differently. :)

I expect it to seem even more rocky as we get into season, but hopefully this bunch will actually learn from the mistakes and become better. I know its not gonna be all sunshine and rainbows, but as long as we finish good, it'll be that much more fun and exciting. IMO.
 
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114VOL said:
YOu're probably right that he is doing those things. We'll see how that works out for the rest of the department.

His handling of Holly will tell us everything we need to know about his executive skills and effectiveness as a leader. Right now, some are scratching their heads because of his inaction on the matter
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Agreed.

But as for firing Holly, remember. Before you change horses at the gallop, you really need to be absolutely sure the other horse is there. And better than the horse you're leaving. Otherwise, why take all the risk and cost of switching?

Who are we replacing Holly with? Geno Auriemma seems unlikely to leave UConn. I can't think of anyone other than him who could beat UConn (and everyone else). Which pretty much oughtta be our goal if we're gonna go through a switch. Right?

Put another way: I'm not sold on Holly, but I've yet to see a better choice that's realistic.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Agreed.

But as for firing Holly, remember. Before you change horses at the gallop, you really need to be absolutely sure the other horse is there. And better than the horse you're leaving. Otherwise, why take all the risk and cost of switching?

Who are we replacing Holly with? Geno Auriemma seems unlikely to leave UConn. I can't think of anyone other than him who could beat UConn (and everyone else). Which pretty much oughtta be our goal if we're gonna go through a switch. Right?

Put another way: I'm not sold on Holly, but I've yet to see a better choice that's realistic.
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Sorry to butt in, but yea. Not talking about 114, but so many like to talk about UT not spending any money to hire big time coaches and aren't committed to winning, but can't wait to fire Holly.

To be clear, I'm not saying don't fire Holly, just saying you better be careful what you wish for.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Agreed.

But as for firing Holly, remember. Before you change horses at the gallop, you really need to be absolutely sure the other horse is there. And better than the horse you're leaving. Otherwise, why take all the risk and cost of switching?

Who are we replacing Holly with? Geno Auriemma seems unlikely to leave UConn. I can't think of anyone other than him who could beat UConn (and everyone else). Which pretty much oughtta be our goal if we're gonna go through a switch. Right?

Put another way: I'm not sold on Holly, but I've yet to see a better choice that's realistic.
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The women's basketball program is far more attractive to seasoned candidates than our football program. YOu're right about Geno, but there's plenty of other coaches who would come here in a second. There's plenty of better choices than her that are out there and would come here. I'm certain of it. The word I've gotten is that Phillip may have trouble pulling the strings on Holly because they are friends and she has been loyal to the university. Phillip has been known to overlook poor performance in lieu of long time loyalty. It certainly happened with some of his assistants during the decline of the football program early in the last decade. We'll just have to wait and see on that one
 
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