Iran nuclear program. It is a lie

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Conspiracy theory? That is pretty much a matter of fact at this point.
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What was also a fact is we were actually at declared war with Japan and preparing to invade the mainland. My father was in the 4th ID and had been processed out of Europe and was about to ship out for the pacific. The projected casualties were enormous.

And the Russians had already invaded the northern Kurile Islands and were occupying them too, so technically they already invaded! Additionally they were beginning to show confrontations with our forces and we were already trying to curb their expansionist policies we’d be going head to head with them for over the next 40 years during the Cold War (and are again now in Crimea).

If Truman didn’t use the A bomb and let’s counless numbers of Americans die instead yeah that’s treasonous as far as I’m concerned.
 
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golfballs said:
Death to America! We totally deserve it for not honoring an agreement the former President bypassed congress to agree to. If anything they should be pissed at Obama. His agreement and now that he’s gone it can be easily thrown in the trash. If he wanted a lasting agreement he should have made it a treaty and gotten congressional approval.
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Huff can't get mad at his hero
 
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mrorange211 said:
This is a lie that has been successfully spread to justify America's actions. I don't have time to link it but there are multiple examples of how Truman and the media continued to exaggerate the potential American military losses to justify the dropping of the bombs. First it was 25,000 casualties would have been lost, but now it's a million.
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Ok! Sure! Out of curiosity what were our casualties on Okinawa and how would that scale up to the forces on the mainland?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Ok! Sure! Out of curiosity what were our casualties on Okinawa and how would that scale up to the forces on the mainland?
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American casualties on Okinawa were about 10,000 but over 100,000 for the Japanese. There is not necessarily a correlation there due to the major air campaigns that we had commenced over Japan before the bomb was dropped. There is no way to know for sure, but Truman's own remarks about Asian people leads me to believe he was gunning for the opportunity, but the casualties, imo, would not have been over 100,000 but he needed justification.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I guess that's one way of looking at it...if you're a partisan douche bag.
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Ahh the douchbag card...would you agree with these facts?

Iran’s mullahs also used the deal’s largesse to prop up the Syrian dictator Bashar al Assad, whose regime is responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands, and has repeatedly used chemical weapons against innocent civilians, including women and children.

Proposed “fixes” would do little to nothing to stop Iran’s development of regional-range missiles that can deliver nuclear warheads against U.S. troops in the Middle East, as well as against Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and other U.S. partners.

The deal’s second major flaw is that it paves the path for the Iranian regime—whose leaders have repeatedly vowed to destroy Israel—to eventually get nuclear bombs.

The deal’s modest and temporary limits on Iran’s capabilities to produce weapons-usable nuclear material will disappear in a few years.

We could go round and round and round on this Iran deal...but President Trump rightly nixed the flawed Iran deal and hopefully will impose crippling economic and financial sanctions against the Iranian regime. The American people deserve better than a bad deal that paves the Iranian terror regime’s path to nuclear weapons. And the Iranian people deserve better as they continue to suffer under the regime’s criminal corruption, economic mismanagement, support for terrorists and the Assad regime, ballistic missile aggression, and systemic human rights abuses.
 
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How does withdrawing from the deal benefit us? Does it stop Iran from advancing its missile technology? Does it stop Iran from enriching weapons grade uranium?
 
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mrorange211 said:
American casualties on Okinawa was about 10,000 but over 100,000 for the Japanese. There is not necessarily a correlation there due to the major air campaigns that we had commenced over Japan before the bomb was dropped. There is no way to know for sure, but Truman's own remarks about Asian people leads me to believe he was gunning for the opportunity, but the casualties, imo, would not have been over 100,000 but he needed justification.
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Wrong. American deaths on Okinawa were around 10000nwith around 50000 casualties. Total combatant casualties for both sides was around 150000.

Many estimates also had American casualties estimated in the hundreds of thousands if we invaded mainland Japan. It would have been grossly negligent to not use the A bomb.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Wrong. American deaths on Okinawa were around 10000 with around 50000 casualties. Total combatant casualties for both sides was around 150000.

Many estimates also had American casualties estimated in the hundreds of thousands if we invaded mainland Japan. It would have been grossly negligent to not use the A bomb.
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There are two sides to this story that have been argued for a couple of generations now, so lets just agree to disagree.
 
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I hear that Trump is going to try and back out of the Lousiana Purchase since the liberal Jefferson made a bad deal and could have gotten it for a couple of bucks cheaper.
 
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Septic said:
I hear that Trump is going to try and back out of the Lousiana Purchase since the liberal Jefferson made a bad deal and could have gotten it for a couple of bucks cheaper.
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You misheard. Its the Alaska Purchase he is renegotiating because ..well...Russia..
 
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Weezer said:
Are you suggesting fanatics don't exist in Christianity? If you are, I disagree. Do they run as rampant as they appear to do in Islam? It certainly doesn't seem so, but to suggest no crazy people exist in Christianity would be a completely false statement.
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No I'm not suggesting that at all.

Comparing fanatic CULTISTS in Christianity who have perverted Biblical teachings to their own violent, racisist, unjust warmaking, etc. to the moslem fundamentalists like Al Queda or ISIS is like comparing the trickle of a small mountain stream to Niagra Falls.

The Myth of the Tiny Radical Muslim Minority | Breitbart

France. A new, widely-covered poll shows that a full 16% of French people have positive attitudes toward ISIS. That includes 27% of French between the ages of 18-24. Anne-Elizabeth Moutet of Newsweek wrote,...
 
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Big Gucci Sosa said:
I’m just trying to figure out what party/ideology huff belongs to. Contrarian party?
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I'm part of the mind your own business and don't spend yourself into oblivion party. I think it's weird that you guys disagree so much with me.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm part of the mind your own business and don't spend yourself into oblivion party. I think it's weird that you guys disagree so much with me.
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You come off a little rough around the edges. You seem to just call people out without any substance of your own. I'm much in line with your thoughts except maybe more towards no government.
 
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Big Gucci Sosa said:
You come off a little rough around the edges. You seem to just call people out without any substance of your own. I'm much in line with your thoughts except maybe more towards no government.
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No substance? Like proving with a conservative publication that Obama did have the authority to make this deal when several people here are making the baseless claim that he didn't?
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
No I'm not suggesting that at all.

Comparing fanatic CULTISTS in Christianity who have perverted Biblical teachings to their own violent, racisist, unjust warmaking, etc. to the moslem fundamentalists like Al Queda or ISIS is like comparing the trickle of a small mountain stream to Niagra Falls.

The Myth of the Tiny Radical Muslim Minority | Breitbart

France. A new, widely-covered poll shows that a full 16% of French people have positive attitudes toward ISIS. That includes 27% of French between the ages of 18-24. Anne-Elizabeth Moutet of Newsweek wrote,...
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I’m not sure how much stock I can put into info from breitbart, that took info from Newsweek, who then got their info from a controversial Russian news program.
 
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