Pruitt not happy with Spring Game attendance

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BloomuVol said:
Again, this is an example of legit reasons why he wasn't there, kids in sports, not going just because you didn't feel like it isn't a legit excuse if you consider yourself a fanatic, if you don't then obviously this comment isn't for you, but then I would question what you are doing on this fan page.
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You're not in position to question why anyone is on a fan page. It's the damn USA. My reason was just as legit as his being at his kid's game.
 
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There's nothing wrong with Pruitt challenging the fans at this point in time. He's had success everywhere he's been.

Now if he challenges the fans after a few underwhelming seasons that's a different story.

I think his point is that it's a bit easier to get back on top the more support there is. Creating a huge buzz and excitement can be done by fans and it helps recruiting and motivating players.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Okay, so let's play that out with slightly better granularity than you just provided.

Here are some various results and how they compare, fan attendance to regular season wins.

> 11-1 regular season (92%) == 93,917 fans in Neyland.

If we'd had 94k fans in Neyland yesterday (entire lower bowl packed, upper stands 3/4 full) I think CJP would've been ecstatic. And we fans would be ecstatic with an 11-1 finish.

> 9-3 regular season (75%) == 76,841 fans in Neyland.

So roughly 10k more than we had yesterday. Respectable, but not excellence. Just as we in VN.com were pointing out over the past two years that a 9-3 season is, while an improvement, not championship caliber. So, a step forward...but not the goal.

> 7-5 regular season (58%) == 59,765 fans in Neyland.

A 7-5 season sure beats the abysmal 4-8 we just lived through, but it's is nonetheless completely unacceptable for a storied program like ours. No one would be happy with it. Just as no one should be happy with less than 60,000 fans in Neyland. Ever. Even when it's a scrimmage.

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This apples-and-oranges thought exercise isn't really useful for much, but it does highlight the difference between excellence, acceptableness, and mediocrity.

What CJP is looking for (and we demand that he does) is excellence. What we got yesterday, from both the players and the fans, was somewhere between acceptable and mediocre. And no one should be happy with either.

Think that's all he was saying. And I think he was right to make the observation.

Go Vols!
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I can tell you it doesn't matter what folks on a message board think. Donors overall recognize it for what it was. A stupid rookie coach mistake. He's doing many things right on the field but has a lot of growing to do with the extra outside responsibilities. He will grow and learn but no coach we have had has been perfect. It has been discussed and everyone else has moved on except you some of you guys on this board who will go to a spring game and mock those who just point out that Jeremy is not perfect.
 
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114VOL said:
I'm not whining about it. I just thought he made a rookie mistake and shouldn't have said it. Fans should be the least of his worries. I did Man up, Son. I shot 68 yesterday
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It’s not a mistake.... he challenged fans and hasn’t thought about it since..... I wasn’t there and didn’t think twice about the comments.... I come on here and very little talk about actual football but over 800 plus posts about coach saying UT fans need to be supportive.
 
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BloomuVol said:
So, are you ignoring the whole statement that some people had legit reasons or are you just being disingenuous for no reason?
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Who decides the "legit" reason? In my book its the person and no criticism is warranted toward that person from you, coach or anyone else. Obviously you feel differently, as you didnt go but you are chastising a guy for not driving 175 miles.
 
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OrangeSoddyDaisy said:
No.

He could have said "I was proud to see this much support after all these folks have been through. I can't wait to see what it'll be like after we kick Alabama's tail."

How would that have sounded?
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No different than him saying something about the fans that did show up eary in the comment he made. It was no big deal to me,it was one sentence. It wasn't like he went on a 10 minute tirade and not mentioning the fans that were there.
 
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Lizzard28 said:
There's nothing wrong with Pruitt challenging the fans at this point in time. He's had success everywhere he's been.

Now if he challenges the fans after a few underwhelming seasons that's a different story.

I think his point is that it's a bit easier to get back on top the more support there is. Creating a huge buzz and excitement can be done by fans and it helps recruiting and motivating players.
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As a HC, name some of those places other than high school
 
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volfannbama said:
Who decides the "legit" reason? In my book its the person and no criticism is warranted toward that person from you, coach or anyone else. Obviously you feel differently, as you didnt go but you are chastising a guy for not driving 175 miles.
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I drove 95 to play golf, but it was at some place pretty special and extremely difficult to get on
 
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114VOL said:
Then stop acting like a kid. Thanks for your service
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So, I'm acting like a kid, because I said that you skipping the spring game even when you had every opportunity to go, is an example of not supporting the team? I'm glad you have been able to go to as many things as you have that is great, but the reality is that all of that support is lost on this team and staff, because they need the support for this year not the past ten years. None of what happened then matters in the support for this spring and moving forward. Does anybody really think it was just a coincidence that UGA broke their spring game records and took first in recruiting in back to back years? The passion from the fanbase is what brought those players there not the drop in wins from 10 plus to 8 wins in year 1.
 
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I guess I’m apart from others but I want a hard nosed coach that challenges the players, us and whoever is a stakeholder in this program. We are all accountable to support success and he is accountable to produce it on the field.

I do think AD Fuller probably had a chat with him. As someone earlier said, rookie mistake. It’s his first time in the limelight, he will grow into the role.
 
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JacketVol said:
I can tell you it doesn't matter what folks on a message board think. Donors overall recognize it for what it was. A stupid rookie coach mistake. He's doing many things right on the field but has a lot of growing to do with the extra outside responsibilities. He will grow and learn but no coach we have had has been perfect. It has been discussed and everyone else has moved on except you some of you guys on this board who will go to a spring game and mock those who just point out that Jeremy is not perfect.
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Why would anyone think twice about that comment?
 
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ochocinco said:
Is it borderline nutty when Nick Saban is angry about a 40 to 0 win?
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Yes, I think it is borderline nutty. People driven by extreme standards might be considered a little nuts, and some of them turn out to be more than a little. The question to follow is whether or not that is good news or bad news, and I think you answered it. It's good news to see the coach so possessed and obsessed. But it is still a little worrisome. Whenever you put a person who is a little crazy in authority, you ought to wonder just how crazy he will turn out to be.
 
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BloomuVol said:
So, I'm acting like a kid, because I said that you skipping the spring game even when you had every opportunity to go, is an example of not supporting the team? I'm glad you have been able to go to as many things as you have that is great, but the reality is that all of that support is lost on this team and staff, because they need the support for this year not the past ten years. None of what happened then matters in the support for this spring and moving forward. Does anybody really think it was just a coincidence that UGA broke their spring game records and took first in recruiting in back to back years? The passion from the fanbase is what brought those players there not the drop in wins from 10 plus to 8 wins in year 1.
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I will be there supporting them for the real games.

Like I said, you really don't know any better. Bless your heart
 
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Check out the stands in this YouTube video showing the 1998 Orange and White Game. There probably weren't half the number of fans that were there yesterday. And we somehow still went on to win the national title that season. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMMVnYuQD84[/YOUTUBE]
 
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VolGee4 said:
I just read Hubbs' comments on it, and it's exactly how I feel.
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So in other words, he is right that the fans need to show up, but he needs to have kid gloves on when handling fragile vol fans battered egos. Sounds like a program ready to step into the realm of the elites.
 
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volbeast33 said:
What did he say?
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Exactly what I was saying 4 hours ago. It's copied by Ron Swanson in the RF.

It was a comment that was best unsaid. But just because you question it doesn't mean you don't like Pruitt. Vols fans will show up to support their team.
 
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JacketVol said:
I can tell you it doesn't matter what folks on a message board think. Donors overall recognize it for what it was. A stupid rookie coach mistake. He's doing many things right on the field but has a lot of growing to do with the extra outside responsibilities. He will grow and learn but no coach we have had has been perfect. It has been discussed and everyone else has moved on except you some of you guys on this board who will go to a spring game and mock those who just point out that Jeremy is not perfect.
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No, that's not what "donors overall" think. It's what YOU think. Big difference.

I think this entire conversation is more amusing than anything, and I don't mind that some of us disagree with others of us.

I'm personally of the mind that CJP said nothing wrong, and folks who took offense shouldn't. *shrug*
 
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BloomuVol said:
So in other words, he is right that the fans need to show up, but he needs to have kid gloves on when handling fragile vol fans battered egos. Sounds like a program ready to step into the realm of the elites.
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Not exactly but keep beating that drum.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Exactly what I was saying 4 hours ago. It's copied by Ron Swanson in the RF.

It was a comment that was best unsaid. But just because you question it doesn't mean you don't like Pruitt. Vols fans will show up to support their team.
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I haven’t followed along bc I think this issue is stupid and can’t believe anyone have it a second thought
 
#925
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Lizzard28 said:
Name where he is failed and why at this point it's better for fans to not try and create excitement.

It's about potential right now and what's possible
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I didn't say it was better for fans to not try to create excitement. Didn't say he had failed anywhere either.

Sound reasoning skills are a thing of the past. Our fan base is clear proof
 
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