Fbi raids trump lawyer

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Squints said:
No doubt. Bray is by far the strongest armed QB to ever put on the orange. His biggest problem was between the ears.

I’d love to have seen what Cutcliffe could’ve done with the talent ceiling he had.
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He would have gone one of two routes. Off the team or greatness. No in between with that kid and qb whisperer like Cut.
 
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I will say that Clearwater, even though I disagree with a lot of what he says in terms of the political conversation, has been consistent with saying his opinion, and, that no matter what he feels, that he doesn't truly know, as all of us don't, until this crap show is over.

I can respect his opinion even when I don't agree, but, I give him credit over many others who are left of center, in at least being smart enough to say I don't know, I feel or I think, but, that he is willing to wait for more info, or the end of this "investigation" before he says "he knows" for sure.

Aside from the political forum, he like some other left/Dems, aren't too bad of guys, just differing political views. He has offered his time and help to other's when he didn't need to, and he has been open about his life on here. For that, and for the reason that he can give his opinion (which a lot of us disagree with) and follow that up with I don't know and am willing to wait for more info, is commendable.

I only say this as someone who disagrees with some of his political views/bias and more than not, he is at least seemingly, a decent guy, and he isn't too bad about name calling and acting like a child. Not to say it doesn't happen, but, most of us in an emotional give and take conversation might let a name or two towards other's go here and there. But, for the most part he is civil and unlike others on "his" side on here, represents himself well.

Now, as to the "putting yourself" out there on this site, that's a personal choice, and I fault no one for not posting pics of themselves or not talking about their lives, as I am one of those who doesn't want any of you fu***** knowing me or my life unless I want you to know. In this day and age, the less of a footprint the better in my eyes. Now, the flip side to posting too much about yourself opens you up to be criticized and poked at because you willingly put it out there, so don't be offended or ticked off when someone can use "it" or anything you post, against you.
 
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Squints said:
No doubt. Bray is by far the strongest armed QB to ever put on the orange. His biggest problem was between the ears.

I’d love to have seen what Cutcliffe could’ve done with the talent ceiling he had.
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They have done a marvelous job with him at K.C. Chiefs. He's been tearing up the NFL ever since he got a real qb coach.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I caught your pathetic shot at me the first go round. Repeating yourself just makes it sadder.

And BTW, LG and I at least have tenor cajones and let the people on this board know who we are and what we do. We give fellow VN posters in need free advice when it's sought and take a constant barrage of bullsh!t from the basement dwelling whopper floppers.

My life is an open book. Ain't many that can make the same claim around here.
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Meh, if you were a real lawyer you would have been injured at least three times from running into stopped ambulances.

I doubt your commitment to the cause.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Meh, if you were a real lawyer you would have been injured at least three times from running into stopped ambulances.

I doubt your commitment to the cause.
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Don't. I have developed a technique. I just ride by the accident scent and toss a fist full of my business cards in the air. I also pay paramedics, cops and tow truck drivers.








For those who don't get my humor... All of the above is a joke.:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Don't. I have developed a technique. I just ride by the accident scent and toss a fist full of my business cards in the air. I also pay paramedics, cops and tow truck drivers.








For those who don't get my humor... All of the above is a joke.:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:
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Saul is that you?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Don't. I have developed a technique. I just ride by the accident scent and toss a fist full of my business cards in the air. I also pay paramedics, cops and tow truck drivers.
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Is that why your business card ended up in a bathroom stall with the caption "for a good time call, he screws like no other"?
 
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Fake news? What? Say it ain't so?


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  • A spokesman for the office of the special counsel Robert Mueller as said "many" stories about his investigation "have been inaccurate."
  • It was an unusual piece of pushback from an office that tends to keep quiet.
  • The progress of Mueller's investigation into Russia and the Trump campaign is a source of fascination for many news outlets.
  • Many stories are based on leaks from anonymous figures said to have knowledge of the investigation, which are inherently difficult to verify.

Robert Mueller warns 'many' stories on Trump investigation not true - Business Insider
 
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Vol0725 said:
Fake news? What? Say it ain't so?


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  • A spokesman for the office of the special counsel Robert Mueller as said "many" stories about his investigation "have been inaccurate."
  • It was an unusual piece of pushback from an office that tends to keep quiet.
  • The progress of Mueller's investigation into Russia and the Trump campaign is a source of fascination for many news outlets.
  • Many stories are based on leaks from anonymous figures said to have knowledge of the investigation, which are inherently difficult to verify.

Robert Mueller warns 'many' stories on Trump investigation not true - Business Insider
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No no no.... they’re Alternative Facts
 
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Vol0725 said:
Fake news? What? Say it ain't so?


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  • A spokesman for the office of the special counsel Robert Mueller as said "many" stories about his investigation "have been inaccurate."
  • It was an unusual piece of pushback from an office that tends to keep quiet.
  • The progress of Mueller's investigation into Russia and the Trump campaign is a source of fascination for many news outlets.
  • Many stories are based on leaks from anonymous figures said to have knowledge of the investigation, which are inherently difficult to verify.

Robert Mueller warns 'many' stories on Trump investigation not true - Business Insider
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There is a solution. Simply force "reporters" to identify sources. Then the info can be determined to be legitimate or not, and leakers can get their plumbing fixed. It would also do wonders for the DC attitude - the part about knowledge being power; fixing leaks would cut down the number of "power brokers" the ones who don't legitimately "own" and have the right to disseminate information. Further if the information is found to be wrong, it's easy to assess blame.
 
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AM64 said:
There is a solution. Simply force "reporters" to identify sources. Then the info can be determined to be legitimate or not, and leakers can get their plumbing fixed. It would also do wonders for the DC attitude - the part about knowledge being power; fixing leaks would cut down the number of "power brokers" the ones who don't legitimately "own" and have the right to disseminate information. Further if the information is found to be wrong, it's easy to assess blame.
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Exactly.

"Sources" = lies or stretches of the truth...or may have an ulterior motive in 'most cases'
 
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AM64 said:
There is a solution. Simply force "reporters" to identify sources. Then the info can be determined to be legitimate or not, and leakers can get their plumbing fixed. It would also do wonders for the DC attitude - the part about knowledge being power; fixing leaks would cut down the number of "power brokers" the ones who don't legitimately "own" and have the right to disseminate information. Further if the information is found to be wrong, it's easy to assess blame.
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Unnamed sources have been around as long as news. There's always a risk of the information being unreliable, but that's why multiple sources are typically used to corroborate. If a news organization is repeatedly proven false, they'll have a hard time keeping am audience. Effectively, the issue weeds itself out.

If you force all sources to be named, most of the legitimate unnamed sources will cease to exist. They go unnamed out of fear of retribution, sort of like whistleblowers.

The reason it is so excessive now is that Trump is just bizarre, creating much to report. Obama was extremely boring in comparison.
 
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AM64 said:
There is a solution. Simply force "reporters" to identify sources. Then the info can be determined to be legitimate or not, and leakers can get their plumbing fixed. It would also do wonders for the DC attitude - the part about knowledge being power; fixing leaks would cut down the number of "power brokers" the ones who don't legitimately "own" and have the right to disseminate information. Further if the information is found to be wrong, it's easy to assess blame.
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Unfortunately, in today's culture, it's rare to take responsibility, own a screw up, be held accountable, and sincere in all of the above. It's human nature, just like a kid with his hand in the cookie jar caught red handed and refuses to say or acknowledge his guilt while pulling the cookie out of the jar.

We are realy good about short term memory, forgetting the recent past, but, one thing we are good about as a society is giving second chances, and especially if you own your screw up.

Clinton, should have just said yep, she did it, I did it, sorry.

Pete Rose should have said, yep, I did it, sorry.

Every baseball player during the roid years, should have just said sorry.

But, what is unreal, is even with the inability to own the situation, somehow, given time, these people are able to move on and be included and back to normal and somewhat forgiven. Take Alex Rodriguez, roider, cheater, has a job as an on air personality on a major sports network covering baseball.........so maybe, I guess, it doesn't matter if you have virtue and sincerity after all........we'll forgive, or at least forget.
 
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AM64 said:
There is a solution. Simply force "reporters" to identify sources. Then the info can be determined to be legitimate or not, and leakers can get their plumbing fixed. It would also do wonders for the DC attitude - the part about knowledge being power; fixing leaks would cut down the number of "power brokers" the ones who don't legitimately "own" and have the right to disseminate information. Further if the information is found to be wrong, it's easy to assess blame.
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That would cause a lot of dead air on CNN.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
Unnamed sources have been around as long as news. There's always a risk of the information being unreliable, but that's why multiple sources are typically used to corroborate. If a news organization is repeatedly proven false, they'll have a hard time keeping am audience. Effectively, the issue weeds itself out.

If you force all sources to be named, most of the legitimate unnamed sources will cease to exist. They go unnamed out of fear of retribution, sort of like whistleblowers.

The reason it is so excessive now is that Trump is just bizarre, creating much to report. Obama was extremely boring in comparison.
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Not so much these days.
 
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Vol0725 said:
Fake news? What? Say it ain't so?


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  • A spokesman for the office of the special counsel Robert Mueller as said "many" stories about his investigation "have been inaccurate."
  • It was an unusual piece of pushback from an office that tends to keep quiet.
  • The progress of Mueller's investigation into Russia and the Trump campaign is a source of fascination for many news outlets.
  • Many stories are based on leaks from anonymous figures said to have knowledge of the investigation, which are inherently difficult to verify.

Robert Mueller warns 'many' stories on Trump investigation not true - Business Insider
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Nope. This is just Mueller putting up a smokescreen hiding the factual nature of these stories. Has to be. Soon...

😂😂😂
 
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