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I haven’t fact checked it but saw it being discussed during March Madness...is it true Jay Wright and Villanova typically roll with 10&11 scholarship players?
 
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BigZiti09 said:
My bad. Forgot.

2018, 2019 and 2020 are all of the same importance.

Carry on. Ignore the above posts.
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If come the 2020-2021 season our minutes/points/rebounds are pretty even among ‘17/‘18/‘19/‘20 classes then how can you point to ‘19 and say how it was the most important?
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I'm not. My thoughts are the same as yours. All are of equal importance. Now and forever.
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You’re being a smarta$$ obviously...but again, if they don’t land any underclassmen this year then yes, 2019 becomes a pretty important class. And if they don’t land any underclassmen in 2019 then 2020 becomes a program defining class one way or the other...as long as they continue to add underclassmen then it’s hard for me to think the ‘19 class is going to be much more important than the 15/16/17 classes.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You’re being a smarta$$ obviously...but again, if they don’t land any underclassmen this year then yes, 2019 becomes a pretty important class. And if they don’t land any underclassmen in 2019 then 2020 becomes a program defining class one way or the other...as long as they continue to add underclassmen then it’s hard for me to think the ‘19 class is going to be much more important than the 15/16/17 classes.
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We are looking at adding 1 max in the 2018 class IMO.

If we don't land any in the 2019 class I don't know what to say.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
We are looking at adding 1 max in the 2018 class IMO.

If we don't land any in the 2019 class I don't know what to say.
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Ok so you add 1, and then Kent is also in the freshman depth chart because of a redshirt, so 2 guys.

That leaves you with 3 spots on paper open for ‘19, and 4 spots on paper open for ‘20.
 
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VQ is saying Tennessee is definitely interested and looking into Carlos Curry, grades may be a stumbling block but if he has the grades I would expect Tennessee to pursue him aggressively.

One name I’m a little surprised Tennessee hasn’t looked into is Pitt transfer Parker Stewart...would sit 1 and play 3. He’s a 6’5” wing that is from Tennessee, can really shoot the ball...would seemingly play his sophomore year behind Turner & Bowden and then have a very good chance at being a 2 year starter.

Also, 2019 Marcus Watson who has been a Tennessee target for a long time is teammates and apparently pretty good friends with DJ Burns...so something to keep in mind there.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
No.
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Ok, so....what then?

I think you’re confusing my stance here...I’m not saying 2019 class isn’t important, all I have disagreed with is that I don’t think it’s some clear cut conclusion that the 2019 class is Barnes’ most important since getting to campus. If on paper we are saying 3 scholarships will likely be open, maybe 4, and same for the 2020 class...and both the 15&16 classes were bigger and set the foundation for a preseason Top 10 team, I just don’t see how 2019 is the most important class for Barnes at Tennessee...at least as of today. As I have said if they whiff on underclassmen for 2018 then I think there’s more of a case, but I don’t see that as very likely.
 
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2015 had Schofield and Alexander
2016 had Turner (RS), Bone, Bowden and Williams
2017 had Fulkerson(RS), Johnson(RS), Pons and Is Walker

So each class has had 2 or 3 impact players in each class...so why would 2019 be more important when we once again are looking for 2-3 impact players? Same for 2020?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
2015 had Schofield and Alexander
2016 had Turner (RS), Bone, Bowden and Williams
2017 had Fulkerson(RS), Johnson(RS), Pons and Is Walker

So each class has had 2 or 3 impact players in each class...so why would 2019 be more important when we once again are looking for 2-3 impact players? Same for 2020?
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I’m not gonna discuss it. It doesn’t matter.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
VQ is saying Tennessee is definitely interested and looking into Carlos Curry, grades may be a stumbling block but if he has the grades I would expect Tennessee to pursue him aggressively.

One name I’m a little surprised Tennessee hasn’t looked into is Pitt transfer Parker Stewart...would sit 1 and play 3. He’s a 6’5” wing that is from Tennessee, can really shoot the ball...would seemingly play his sophomore year behind Turner & Bowden and then have a very good chance at being a 2 year starter.

Also, 2019 PG Kira Lewis who has been a Tennessee target for a long time is teammates and apparently pretty good friends with DJ Burns...so something to keep in mind there.
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Would love to get Curry. Those guys who can legitimately protect the rim and also shoot the 3 are a must have these days. Also whats the latest on Burns? Is it believed he's a silent or close to committing?
 
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Any info on Charles Bassey? Last I heard we were one of about 6 teams with a shot. His recruitment has been super low key. Any chance there?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You’re being a smarta$$ obviously...but again, if they don’t land any underclassmen this year then yes, 2019 becomes a pretty important class. And if they don’t land any underclassmen in 2019 then 2020 becomes a program defining class one way or the other...as long as they continue to add underclassmen then it’s hard for me to think the ‘19 class is going to be much more important than the 15/16/17 classes.
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I can try to break down the 2019 class's importance as thoroughly as possible in this post.

The 2015 & 2016 classes were building the foundation for the team, the expectations were low, and the players had 2-3 years to develop before they were expected by the majority of the fan base to make the tournament (the expectation was this upcoming season).

The 2017 & 2018 classes were/are classes centered around building depth at some positions and adding some experience to our guards.

Now that our team has made the tournament, this becomes the expectation for the team, and improvement should also be expected.

When the 2015 class were sophomores and the 2016 class were freshman, our team went 16-16. In 2020-2021, when the 2019 class are sophomores and the 2020 class are freshman, a 16-16 record would not be well received. The expectation will be an NCAAT, if not more.

If we sign no freshman in the 2018 class, our 2020-2021 roster will look something like this (assuming every player currently on roster pans out, Johnson moves to SG):

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2020-2021			
PG	2019 Signee (SO)		2020 Signee (FR)
SG	Jalen Johnson (SR)		2019 Signee (SO)
SF	Yves Pons (SR)			2019 Signee (SO)
PF	Derrick Walker (SR)		John Fulkerson (SR)
C	Zach Kent (JR)			2019 Signee (SO)

This depth chart shows the impact the 2019 class will have. It will be a similar class to the 2016 class (in size after transfers), but the expectations will be higher coming in. Using average MPGs from previous seasons, the 6th-10th man in rotation should have around 32% of the minutes. If you add the fact that a PG from the 2019/2020 class will be starting in 2020-2021, I'd guess the 2019 class itself will have around 35-45% the MPG that season.
 
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Big Z said:
Would love to get Curry. Those guys who can legitimately protect the rim and also shoot the 3 are a must have these days. Also whats the latest on Burns? Is it believed he's a silent or close to committing?
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Georgia Tech 247 just released an article on him...wants to decide before end of summer, schools want him to OV but he’s unsure of any at this time. His grades are in order for him to enroll early but he’s not sure if he wants to do that.
 
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VEXZY...would you agree we pretty much played a 8-9 man rotation last season? If that is the case, we have 5 underclassmen currently, add in a 2018 underclassmen (I’ve already said if we whiff then important increases) and you now have 6 experienced guys come the 2020-2021 season. So if your first 6 are upperclassmen, that means 7/8/9 rotational guys are freshman or sophomore, using this years numbers you’re talking about 40mpg from underclass and 160mpg from upperclassmen. That is 25%, not 35-45%...and our 7-9 this year were Daniel/Fulk/Walker, 2/3 being freshman, and this team went 23-7 and was a 3 seed, so tell me why it is that same breakdown can’t make the NCAAT in 2020-2021?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
VEXZY...would you agree we pretty much played a 8-9 man rotation last season? If that is the case, we have 5 underclassmen currently, add in a 2018 underclassmen (I’ve already said if we whiff then important increases) and you now have 6 experienced guys come the 2020-2021 season. So if your first 6 are upperclassmen, that means 7/8/9 rotational guys are freshman or sophomore, using this years numbers you’re talking about 40mpg from underclass and 160mpg from upperclassmen. That is 25%, not 35-45%...and our 7-9 this year were Daniel/Fulk/Walker, 2/3 being freshman, and this team went 23-7 and was a 3 seed, so tell me why it is that same breakdown can’t make the NCAAT in 2020-2021?
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I agree about an 8-9 deep rotation. So even cutting off one or two players from the depth chart, you still have at least (2) underclassmen guards. You also are playing Johnson at SG, when realistically, he will probably end up at SF. Another big if is that Johnson, Fulkerson, and Kent all pan out and demand similar minutes to the current top 6 in rotation.

Also, this year our 1-6 were spread out more evenly across the positions:

Bone (SO) - PG
Turner (RS SO) - SG/PG
Bowden (SO) - SG/SF
Schofield (JR) - SF
Williams (SO) - PF
Alexander (JR) - C

vs:

2019 Signee (SO) - PG [Note that this is the only PG]
Jalen Johnson (RS SR) - SF/SG [Note this is the only SG and he is playing somewhat out-of-position]
Yves Pons (SR) - SF
Derrick Walker (SR) - PF
John Fulkerson (RS SR) - PF
Zach Kent (RS JR) - C
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
VQ is saying Tennessee is definitely interested and looking into Carlos Curry, grades may be a stumbling block but if he has the grades I would expect Tennessee to pursue him aggressively.

One name I’m a little surprised Tennessee hasn’t looked into is Pitt transfer Parker Stewart...would sit 1 and play 3. He’s a 6’5” wing that is from Tennessee, can really shoot the ball...would seemingly play his sophomore year behind Turner & Bowden and then have a very good chance at being a 2 year starter.

Also, 2019 Marcus Watson who has been a Tennessee target for a long time is teammates and apparently pretty good friends with DJ Burns...so something to keep in mind there.
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Not getting my hopes up with Watson, but man would that be a hell of a get
 
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