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BruinVol said:
I admit I don't give much credibility to the practice reports but I did hear AP say that Taylor was doing very well but needed the reps at WR because he was raw in many areas and hadn't played the position much before[/QUOTE

I think bumphus and crosby moves have good chance to stick. Don't think the butler/Emerson/fant ones stick. Byrd sticks or transfers. Taylor is up to him. If he accepts CB move I'd think it sticks but he really wanted to play WR
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Nashvegas31 said:
BruinVol said:
I admit I don't give much credibility to the practice reports but I did hear AP say that Taylor was doing very well but needed the reps at WR because he was raw in many areas and hadn't played the position much before[/QUOTE

I think bumphus and crosby moves have good chance to stick. Don't think the butler/Emerson/fant ones stick. Byrd sticks or transfers. Taylor is up to him. If he accepts CB move I'd think it sticks but he really wanted to play WR
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Emerson move is the one I think is a big mistake. Taylor one bothers me but I agree with you guys that a star CB is better than a star WR.

The other moves don't bother me at all. Those guys have more practice time under their belt
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Suuuuuure

Edit: if that really was your intention, then my bad.

The context of that conversation was setup by someone saying Pruitt deserved coach of the year if he got a bowl game this year, you agreeing with him, then posting that response to those who disagreed. I assumed that was your prediction for this season based on that context.

As it stands, it isn’t exactly clear what you meant with that post, I guess. The thought never crossed my mind (based on the context) that you were referring to 2017. It’s possible that is true :)
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It is absolutely what I was talking about. I don't see how that is confusing. We were discussing which roster is worse, this one or 13. Ron said that 13 was worse and "it isn't even close"...I actually quoted him and answered with last season's record as proof of this rosters ineptitude..."4-8" That is not hard to understand at all. So quit trying to make me out a liar please.
 
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THIS & THAT

Chance Hall made an appearance with the guys working over on the side. The senior OL was doing minimal work.

With all the changes, WR Jacquez Jones moved from slot to flanker during routes on air today. Byrd was working at the Y.

The TEs and OTs were working on combo blocks in the run game. First time we’ve seen those two units working together this spring. Brian Niedermeyer was leading the drill, with OL coach Will Friend coaching the OGs.

Deandre Johnson has had a quiet spring thus far but the sophomore OLB received a couple really audible compliments from Chris Rumph during a pass rushing drill.

Top 100 prospect DL Trevon Walker was still in town and attended practice with his family. The Georgia DL arrived in Knoxville yesterday and had dinner with Tracy Rocker at Calhouns.
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- Simonton
 
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All I know is the last two staffs would not have the nuts to throw the position chart into the bushes and just try and find the best athletes to win. I hope kids buy in and understand why they are being tried out at different positions, that it is a positive and a compliment that the coaches think they can play multiple positions.
Sounds like we all need to pray to sweet baby Jesus that our O line comes back healthy and strong this fall or it ain't gonna be pretty unless Dobbs comes back for another year...
When did anyone ever think there would be discussions about Byrd transferring when it wasn't so long ago we were high-fiving because we stole the speed burner from Miami...
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Taylor imo is a star no matter where you put him. I wouldn't mind him being a starting CB with an adore Jackson type package. Helton should be plenty familiar with how to do that. Pretty deep at wR. I'd prefer Taylor be on field instead of waiting his turn at WR if that's the case. Not hard to transition to WR. If Taylor is what pruiit thinks he can be then why watch Osborne and others get peanuts ate over them all day
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He has always had one characteristic that limits his ceiling as a WR. He does not have good hands. Not a natural pass catcher. Which sucks because he has basically every other quality needed to be a great slot WR. Once the ball is in his hands, he is dynamic. His hands will always limit him at WR. At CB obv that is not an issue.
 
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scvolfan7 said:
Yeah I was really hoping we could get McClendon as well. Think he’s one of the more underrated coaches in the country. Agree though. I thought Muschamp was a horrendous hire for USC, but he has proven me wrong so far. They’re on a steady upward trajectory.

But what’s really nice is knowing that if he can do it, so can Pruitt. Can’t wait for fall. I feel like we’re going to see a completely different team. Probably won’t win a lot of games, but I think we’re going to see a much tougher team.
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For most of Superior's time at usce they were the most overrated team in cfb. For all the talk about how great they were or were going to be, they won a grand total of one championship. And that was only the division. And it was during years when the east was very down. Then they got pummeled in the championship game.

Once again the hype is apparently starting. Muschamp has been there 2 years, with one winning season. What's to be impressed with? He only looks good by comparison to his east competition last year. They beat a few teams in east last year, including us. So what? They almost lost to us and La Tech, and they did lose to UK. That's bad.

They improved by 3 wins his first from the previous year. But that's deceiving because that year was a disaster with Superior quitting half way through.

usce doesn't concern me one bit. What does concern me is having that game after a very rough stretch. I'd be concerned about any sec game at that spot in the schedule. The only thing they'll be competing for next year is 2nd place in the east. Maybe. But only if it's once again weak.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
It is absolutely what I was talking about. I don't see how that is confusing. We were discussing which roster is worse, this one or 13. Ron said that 13 was worse and "it isn't even close"...I actually quoted him and answered with last season's record as proof of this rosters ineptitude..."4-8" That is not hard to understand at all. So quit trying to make me out a liar please.
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That's not exactly how the sequence went, though. You're portraying it disingenuously.

He responded "not even close" to a post calling our current roster "The worst in school history, or damn near it." 2013 came into it after the post you quoted. So yeah, it was a little ambiguous.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Was thinking about this today.....Biggest game on the schedule is still the same as it’s been the last 25 years.

Florida.
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Agreed. Biggest game on the schedule every year for me. If given the choice, I would just about take 6-6 including a win against Florida over 7-5 including a Florida loss.
 
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Personally I like Emerson's upside on the DL better than at OL, but I can also see a situation where he and Trey Smith end up being a better OG tandem than anything else we could throw on the field this year. Emerson easily has the frame and size to be an OG. Crosby at OG seems like he'd have potential. Not sure how close he is to contributing on defense, but same goes for offense honestly. I don't see Butler sticking at OT at all. Would be a huge surprise to me. I'm not sure he has the length or the bulk for it.

I agree with many who've said not all of these changes will stick, but it makes me wonder what the coaches think they have coming in on the DL that they'd give try out 3 guys who seem to be next in line to on the DL in 2019. I'd been thinking Harris and Garland were mostly just bodies we took who might end up getting looks at OL. Maybe the coaches really like them there?


I'm probably overthinking it, though. It probably just comes down to Emerson being one our best big men who just happens to be behind 3-4 seniors on the DL.



Anyway, I'm glad Pruitt isn't leaving any stone unturned trying to put a decent OL together. I do hope that by the time fall rolls around they've gone ahead and settled guys in for the most part though.
 
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MrVolton said:
Agreed. Biggest game on the schedule every year for me. If given the choice, I would just about take 6-6 including a win against Florida over 7-5 including a Florida loss.
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Agree.

That game is so important. Especially this year because we need to establish ourselves in the east ahead of them while both are in rebuilds. Don’t need to give Dan Meh any footing.
 
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MrVolton said:
Agreed. Biggest game on the schedule every year for me. If given the choice, I would just about take 6-6 including a win against Florida over 7-5 including a Florida loss.
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I almost feel that way too. This year, I just want to win as many SEC games as possible though. I'd probably take 6-6 with 3 SEC wins over Vandy, UK, and UF over 7-5 with 3 SEC wins over Vandy, UK, and Mizzou or USCe. But I'd take 7-5 with 4 SEC wins over both of those, even if UF is a loss.
 
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Big Gucci Sosa said:
Pruitt at the podium -

Lots of mental errors in the scrimmage. Some missed tackles, some turnovers.

Felt like the players practiced with a purpose today after watching scrimmage.

On the movements: After scrimmage we moved several guys to the other side of the ball. We lack depth on OL..made sense to have some guys move over and get them some work to see if they have foundation. Not a final switch. Trying to develop depth. Might be some points where you lose 5 guys at one position. Gotta find a way. Now is the time to do it. Seeing and evaluating.

On Bumphus: Played defense in HS. Wants to figure out who the best players are on the team. Wants the best players on the field, regardless. We don't want them playing positions for the first time in October.
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You know, that last line...

I think back to that goal Line Situation against Florida last year, where butch didn't want to let JG take a snap from under Center because he hadn't practiced it.

At least it sounds like Pruitt is trying to come up with contingency plans now instead of when he has to have them .

You could make a case that it's a bit of overkill, but I'd rather him be prepared than not. We've seen what that looks like .
 
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jakez4ut said:
You know, that last line...

I think back to that goal Line Situation against Florida last year, where butch didn't want to let JG take a snap from under Center because he hadn't practiced it.

At least it sounds like Pruitt is trying to come up with contingency plans now instead of when he has to have them .

You could make a case that it's a bit of overkill, but I'd rather him be prepared than not. We've seen what that looks like .
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That's an angle I hadn't really thought of. Could be that they want to know which DL to move to OL if we bitten by the injury bug again.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
That's an angle I hadn't really thought of. Could be that they want to know which DL to move to OL if we bitten by the injury bug again.
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Yep. Need to at least have an idea of what it looks like. I like that he's thinking about this stuff. Wish he didn't have to.
 
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jakez4ut said:
You know, that last line...

I think back to that goal Line Situation against Florida last year, where butch didn't want to let JG take a snap from under Center because he hadn't practiced it.

At least it sounds like Pruitt is trying to come up with contingency plans now instead of when he has to have them .

You could make a case that it's a bit of overkill, but I'd rather him be prepared than not. We've seen what that looks like .
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This is from Fingers Practice report thread in the FF:

Jeremy Pruitt: I know I say this a lot, but I used to be a high school coach. If you have to play guys both ways to make sure your best guys are out there with two minutes left and the game on the line, then that’s what you do.
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OrangenSC said:
For most of Superior's time at usce they were the most overrated team in cfb. For all the talk about how great they were or were going to be, they won a grand total of one championship. And that was only the division. And it was during years when the east was very down. Then they got pummeled in the championship game.

Once again the hype is apparently starting. Muschamp has been there 2 years, with one winning season. What's to be impressed with? He only looks good by comparison to his east competition last year. They beat a few teams in east last year, including us. So what? They almost lost to us and La Tech, and they did lose to UK. That's bad.

They improved by 3 wins his first from the previous year. But that's deceiving because that year was a disaster with Superior quitting half way through.

usce doesn't concern me one bit. What does concern me is having that game after a very rough stretch. I'd be concerned about any sec game at that spot in the schedule. The only thing they'll be competing for next year is 2nd place in the east. Maybe. But only if it's once again weak.
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I don’t think I would cal them overrated specifically because they never did anything lol. No one ever talked about them in terms of national hype. They’re getting some hype in SEC circles this year for good reason. If McClendon is any good they’ll make some noise. They’ve got playmakers on offense and Muschamp usually fields a good defense.

They’re ahead of us but I’m not at all concerned about catching up and surpassing them. It’ll take a couple years but I would be shocked if it didn’t happen
 
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