Pope: There Is No Hell

#427
#427
Slice,

Can you make me a honarary Jew?

What will need to transpire for this to become a reality?
 
#429
#429
Obsessed said:
Slice,

Can you make me a honarary Jew?

What will need to transpire for this to become a reality?
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You believe in the Messiah so I already consider you an heir to Abraham and a member of the commonwealth of Israel.

However most wont understand that so I hearby declare you a Jew. You’ll need to pick a tribe in the next 48 hours. I hear Dan is having a membership drive but I’ve had good luck with Yuda
 
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therealUT said:
Curious... If those who produced the English translation couldn't rely on these Greek and Latin manuscripts, because they are terrible (according to you), but were specially inspired by God, such that we should view the English translations as a special revelation, then why didn't God just tell them to clearly say "grape juice"?

Instead, in this special revelation, God tells them to use "wine", which, in English, clearly means alcoholic.

Your position fails on its own merits.
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I still want to see an answer to this
 
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Vol8188 said:
I still want to see an answer to this
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Titus 3:9-11 (KJV)
9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

How can you convince someone what God plainly teaches about a subject that don't believe that we have a copy of what God has said? No need to even try. If you don't believe the bible is the word of God, what I say don't carry much authority anyway. :hi:
 
#434
#434
McDad having inappropriate contact with the deceased again?

Better call the sheriff's department, they said he used up his last chance after the incident at the morgue.
 
#436
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MercyPercy said:
McDad having inappropriate contact with the deceased again?

Better call the sheriff's department, they said he used up his last chance after the incident at the morgue.
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They're just so still, and so room-temp, and so sexily unresponsive. I can't help myself, MP.
 
#438
#438
BigO95 said:
Titus 3:9-11 (KJV)
9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

How can you convince someone what God plainly teaches about a subject that don't believe that we have a copy of what God has said? No need to even try. If you don't believe the bible is the word of God, what I say don't carry much authority anyway. :hi:
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Was Jesus being defiant to the father about turning the water to wine? The literal translation of my bible says "wine".
 
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BigO95 said:
Psalm 12:6 (KJV)
6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

REV 22:18-19[KJV]
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

1 Peter 1:25 - But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Romans 15:4 - For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Isaiah 40:8 - The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

2 Peter 1:21 - For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.

Psalms 119:105 - NUN. Thy word [is] a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

1 Thessalonians 2:13 - For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received [it] not [as] the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.


Sounds like big statements to me.
Psalms Chapter 12

6 The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.


Isaiah 40:8 - The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matthew 24:35 - Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Psalms 119:89 - LAMED. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.

Matthew 5:18 - For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.


Psalms 119:127 - Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold.
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I didn't see one word in those ill-fitted quotes that said that the 1611 authorized KJV Bible is the divinely preserved and perfectly inspired version of God's Word. You're adding that. It's your extra-Biblical selection. Get ready for all of the plagues of Revelation.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I still want to see an answer to this
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Did you notice that Big quoted a scripture about curses falling on those who add to/take away from the scriptures, after having de-legitimized the scriptures in their original languages?

Anyone notice that?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Did you notice that Big quoted a scripture about curses falling on those who add to/take away from the scriptures, after having de-legitimized the scriptures in their original languages?

Anyone notice that?
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Oh it was noticed. “Don’t believe as I believe? Let me show you how God will smite thee!”
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Did you notice that Big quoted a scripture about curses falling on those who add to/take away from the scriptures, after having de-legitimized the scriptures in their original languages?

Anyone notice that?
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I didn't. But I'm just here to distasteful jokes.
 
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#447
#447
You can be a bunch of winebibbers if you want to, but I think I'll just keep abstaining. If you don't believe you have a perfect bible, you have that right, but you haven't shook me on it the least bit.
 
#449
#449
Orange_Crush said:
I didn't see one word in those ill-fitted quotes that said that the 1611 authorized KJV Bible is the divinely preserved and perfectly inspired version of God's Word. You're adding that. It's your extra-Biblical selection. Get ready for all of the plagues of Revelation.
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BigO95 said:
You can be a bunch of winebibbers if you want to, but I think I'll just keep abstaining. If you don't believe you have a perfect bible, you have that right, but you haven't shook me on it the least bit.
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I'm interested in your response to my last statement. You've failed to show that the KJV authorized is "the perfect Bible", yet you lambaste other who respect it, but don't consider it "the perfect" Word of God.

You've disparaged the Bible in its original languages, and trumped those original language autographs with use of the KJV in their stead. Yet you're yet to show why we should trust the translators' words as God's words instead of the actual words, in the original languages, that the Holy Spirit directly inspired the original authors to use.

All you've provided was:

7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
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I'll forego the obvious nit as to ask what the original language stated there.

But I will point out that He has accomplished that VERY THING by preserving the manuscripts in their original languages. He had thousands upon thousands of copies of the Bible, in their original languages, in such way that we can compare them and get a very good idea of exactly what the originals said. It wasn't one line of manuscripts--or even one single, original autograph of each book--which could be hidden away under lock and key and then changed with no one knowing the difference.

God preserved the original language and intent in an "opensource" way.

So, defend your claim, Big. You're calling everyone else out as false teachers, false prophets, etc... Well, except for your human indoctrination into a flawed KJV-only theology, explain to us why the KJV is the fulfillment of that verse, as opposed to the lineage of manuscripts we have in the languages of their authors.

ETA: What should have been obvious--that part of this promise is that His word is trustworthy. He will "KEEP" it. He doesn't lie. We can trust it.
 
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