Recruiting Forum Football Talk LVII

[Sleegro]

I am used to not taking a coach at his word so it's ok to say you don't believe him.

For now I take him for his words

All he said was after 2 days we decided safety was his best position. He did not specify if it was after 2 days at corner or after 2 days at safety. I obviously don't know which it is but I am taking him at his word. He could have worked at both positions the first 2 days. I never said I don't believe him. Just that his quote didn't specify and coupled with the other report both scenarios are entirely possible. I am not saying he lied or mislead though. I do know that you only deal in absolutes though so I will leave it at that. Take it however you like.

 

[BruinVol]

All he said was after 2 days we decided safety was his best position. He did not specify if it was after 2 days at corner or after 2 days at safety. I obviously don't know which it is but I am taking him at his word. He could have worked at both positions the first 2 days. I never said I don't believe him. Just that his quote didn't specify and coupled with the other report both scenarios are entirely possible. I am not saying he lied or mislead though. I do know that you only deal in absolutes though so I will leave it at that. Take it however you like.

Take it how you want. It's clear to me he was observed at CB and Pruitt didn't like it.


I do think the biggest thing that is being overlooked about his quote is he stated how tough he was. So that appears to be in conflict with those that said he might not like contact.

 

[Sleegro]

Take it how you want. It's clear to me he was observed at CB and Pruitt didn't like it.


I do think the biggest thing that is being overlooked about his quote is he stated how tough he was. So that appears to be in conflict with those that said he might not like contact.

My only point was that you were stating it as a fact when there are conflicting reports. I don't take it as anything other than neither one of us knows for sure.

 

[BruinVol]

My only point was that you were stating it as a fact when there are conflicting reports. I don't take it as anything other than neither one of us knows for sure.

Oh we know without a shadow of a doubt that Byrd was evaluated as a CB.

 

[butchna]

They going to have a Crowder five, too?

If that’s his last name. Otherwise...it’ll be different. :unsure:

 

[jakez4ut]

He went to defense. Immediately gets moved. Already talking about how good he is at catching the ball.

So yeah, I could see him ending up back over there. Obviously Pruitt needs some help in the secondary. He's giving guys looks over there. If Byrd sticks at safety that's fine. I'm just saying based on the quote I could see him ending up back on O. Like I said earlier I'm not sure he's physical enough to play defense in the SEC.

if byrd is the athlete many believe him to be, he could find himself with some offensive and defensive packages. situation being what it is, if this staff feels a player can help either side of the ball be better, i have a feeling they'll try to use him, on either or both.

but my initial impression of those comments scream a free safety, that goes and gets the ball.

All he said was after 2 days we decided safety was his best position. He did not specify if it was after 2 days at corner or after 2 days at safety. I obviously don't know which it is but I am taking him at his word. He could have worked at both positions the first 2 days. I never said I don't believe him. Just that his quote didn't specify and coupled with the other report both scenarios are entirely possible. I am not saying he lied or mislead though. I do know that you only deal in absolutes though so I will leave it at that. Take it however you like.

upon further review, agreed.

Take it how you want. It's clear to me he was observed at CB and Pruitt didn't like it.


I do think the biggest thing that is being overlooked about his quote is he stated how tough he was. So that appears to be in conflict with those that said he might not like contact.

that was my initial reaction to that quote as well. but i think after rereading, Sleegro is correct. sounds like they went in to the move to try him at both, but after 2 days, they decided safety. never said whether or not they tried him at corner....could be he just wowed them at safety and decided to have him stick there.

and i went back and looked at fingers recaps in the ff, there isn't a single mention of byrd working with the corners. it is all at safety....i feel comfortable saying he's not worked at corner at all in any organized practices.

agree about the toughness factor. i think the lack of physicality comments probably came as a result of his size, not performance.

 

[JCLawyerVol]

You still tight with Scott Carter?

I assume this will blow over?

Yeah but I leave them alone in times like this... never know if my services will be needed. 😬

I don't know anything more that I have read in the press about this one right now.

 

[LaagerVol]

My only point was that you were stating it as a fact when there are conflicting reports. I don't take it as anything other than neither one of us knows for sure.

Don’t even bother. Don’t take the bait. Ever

 

[BruinVol]

One thing we have to remember when we are acting like practice reports Are conflicting to our coaches own words.

Media Members are literally watching the team stretch and the first 5-10 minutes of practice. They aren't watching much of anything

I will take the coaches words any day about what is going on.

 

[volfanCLT]

One thing we have to remember when we are acting like practice reports Are conflicting to our coaches own words.

Media Members are literally watching the team stretch and the first 5-10 minutes of practice. They aren't watching much of anything

I will take the coaches words any day about what is going on.

Where is this quote you are referring to? Which one states he started at corner?

 

[BruinVol]

Where is this quote you are referring to? Which one states he started at corner?

Few pages back.

Unless you believe Pruitt is playing with words it's clear he didn't like the way he used his eyes and he was moved to safety.

Now if you believe Pruitt likes to be tricky with his words then I can see someone saying he didn't really say that

Funny thing is we think Pruitt is a Straight shooter until we don't want him to be.

 

[Sleegro]

Don’t even bother. Don’t take the bait. Ever

Haha I know. And I don't doubt they evaluated him at corner, just pointing out that there is no evidence they did it in spring practice. Maybe they did but it's far from confirmed.

 

[BruinVol]

Haha I know. And I don't doubt they evaluated him at corner, just pointing out that there is no evidence they did it in spring practice. Maybe they did but it's far from confirmed.

Very possibly did it in workouts

Practice reports are worthless though. Media sees next to nothing

 

[volfanCLT]

Few pages back.

Unless you believe Pruitt is playing with words it's clear he didn't like the way he used his eyes and he was moved to safety.

Now if you believe Pruitt likes to be tricky with his words then I can see someone saying he didn't really say that

Funny thing is we think Pruitt is a Straight shooter until we don't want him to be.

Can you quote it? I haven’t seen anything that says Byrd was at CB

 

[butchna]

4 star WR Brieon Fuller decommitted from Miami today. We ever have a thread on him?

 

[LA Vol]

I think Byrd is one of those players who didn't thrive at all under Intern Butch. It affected his attitude and perhaps his work ethic. A big part of our success this year depends on getting these disenfranchised players to buy back in after a couple of miserable years.

 

[volfanCLT]

I think Byrd is one of those players who didn't thrive at all under Intern Butch. It affected his attitude and perhaps his work ethic. A big part of our success this year depends on getting these disenfranchised players to buy back in after a couple of miserable years.

Safe to say he has been very frustrated the last couple years. Like you said, hopefully he can buy back in this year.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Maybe JC can confirm or refute but I have been told Sanders told a sulking player to sit out of a drill and the kid refused to take a knee. Sanders then Forced him to the ground by striking his Helmet.

Without seeing exactly how it happened It's hard to take sides. Could been either side of the line imo

If that's the case then Sanders is in big trouble if he hit him hard enough to go down to the ground

 

[OrangenSC]

Butch totally ruined Byrd as a football player...what a waste..smh.

If Byrd is totally ruined as a football player, he did it to himself. I guess the days of football players taking responsibility are over. Not everything bad the past few years was because of Jones.

As I've said on here a couple of times before, I've seen several players in Byrd's face during the game. For what I don't know, but it wasn't pretty. We've also had comments on here from posters that apparently he has a bad attitude and doesn't have much drive. Would a different coach get more out of him? Maybe. But it's clear to me that his limited playing time was on him.

On the other hand, I'm not convinced he's ruined yet.

 

[LA Vol]

Safe to say he has been very frustrated the last couple years. Like you said, hopefully he can buy back in this year.

Yeah, glad all that garbage is behind us. So far only Picou and a few walk-ons have bailed and that's not a terrible thing. Too bad Boulware didn't stick it out. The coaching change could have made such a difference for him.

 

[ob79]

Hey Catbone, is the band gonna have an EP drop soon? "Hey you" if getting some serious play time from me.

 

[volfanCLT]

Yeah, glad all that garbage is behind us. So far only Picou and a few walk-ons have bailed and that's not a terrible thing. Too bad Boulware didn't stick it out. The coaching change could have made such a difference for him.

100% agree. I think Boulware would be huge for this team next year. Talented guy who, at worst, would provide good depth at a position severely lacking any depth.

 

[Sleegro]

I think Byrd is one of those players who didn't thrive at all under Intern Butch. It affected his attitude and perhaps his work ethic. A big part of our success this year depends on getting these disenfranchised players to buy back in after a couple of miserable years.

I agree and according to the few quotes from Pruitt his attitude and work ethic don't seem to be an issue this spring. So hopefully that continues and he is able to contribute this fall. Like he said hopefully its contagious and the whole team gets that attitude and work ethic back sooner than later. That kinda thing can be very contagious in either direction, good and bad, depending on leadership.

 

[OrangenSC]

That's what I figure. I've been trying to look at our opponents this year and see if we have opportunities for more wins. I think maybe we do but then probably some our opponent's fans are looking at us and figuring we're an easy win for them this year.

I really like reading all of our practice reports. I make up depth charts and study the projection models and try to find examples of teams that overperform general expectations and why. It doesn't make me any smarter but I have fun with it. In fact, I enjoy it so much yesterday I did a forum search in the football forum for thread titles that had the word "practice" and were authored by Fingers. From one season to the next, spring or fall, it seems like many of our local writers may use the same stories, only with an updated crop of names.

This is where I'm at right now in best case:

(N) WVa = Maybe a Tossup
(H) ETSU = Definite Win
(H) UTEP = Definite Win
(H) Florida = Maybe a Tossup
(A( Georgia = Most likely a Loss
(A) Auburn = Likely a Loss
(H) Alabama = Almost certainly a Loss (but not yet definite)
(A) USCe = Maybe a Tossup
(H) Charlotte = Definite Win
(H) Kentucky = Likely Win
(H) Missouri = Maybe a Win
(A) Vanderbilt = Likely Win

So in my view right now its still possible we can win them all. I'm just not sure how yet - need to read more practice reports to figure that out. jmo.

Appreciate the info.

It seems we all agree on the sure or semi-sure wins and losses. Any of those going the other way could completely change the outlook.

The season is going to come down to those 4 you call tossups. (I'm including Mizzou since you called it a maybe.) My way-too-early prediction on those:

WV: L - to me this is the great unknown, for obvious reasons. Reluctantly calling this an L.

UF: W - feel good about this one

USCe: L - if this game wasn't after the gauntlet, specifically Bama, I'd call it W. I'm afraid that'll be a tough stretch to recover from quickly.

Mizzou: W - feel really good about this one

 

[SmokinBob]

Yeah, I don't see anything to suggest he's lowering expectations but I'm thinking the consensus expectation in the media is probably going to be just enough to get to a bowl game. CJP's comment about beginning to like this team could have been taken as raising expectations. In fact for the first couple days after his remark I was flirting with the notion of 10 wins after taking down Auburn on the plains. If he has another comment like that Georgia is in trouble. jmo.

Gave you a like! Made me chuckle out loud!