Abortion Rights

[Orangeslice13]

Wait, you are under the illusion that humans cannot be cloned???

Does cloning change anything in the development process?

 

[therealUT]

Does cloning change anything in the development process?

It makes my liver a potential human. All that is needed is the right incubation methods and setting.

 

[Orangeslice13]

So if during a crime a pregnant woman is killed and the fetus also dies then how many murders were there?

At what point in the development of the fetus does it become 2 murders?

 

[Roustabout]

Wait, you are under the illusion that humans cannot be cloned???

Huh?

Again, saying cells can be used to form humans isn't saying anything. A sperm is a cell. An egg is a cell. Chasing you down these rabbit trails ain't happening.

 

[therealUT]

So if during a crime a pregnant woman is killed and the fetus also dies then how many murders were there?

At what point in the development of the fetus does it become 2 murders?

Legally? Depends on the state.

Actually? One.

 

[Orangeslice13]

It makes my liver a potential human. All that is needed is the right incubation methods and setting.

So as soon as those standards are met your doner cells are now a fetus. Can we call this moment conception?

 

[Roustabout]

It makes my liver a potential human. All that is needed is the right incubation methods and setting.

And if your liver cells result in a new, unique, developing human life form, get back with me and we'll take up the conversation.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Legally? Depends on the state.

Actually? One.

I’m asking your opinion

 

[therealUT]

Huh?

Again, saying cells can be used to form humans isn't saying anything. A sperm is a cell. An egg is a cell. Chasing you down these rabbit trails ain't happening.

Individuals who don't like the rabbit hole are individuals who don't like to reflect on their beliefs.

 

[therealUT]

I’m asking your opinion

One murder.

 

[Orangeslice13]

One murder.

When do you think a fetus becomes a person and therefore has rights?

 

[therealUT]

When do you think a fetus becomes a person and therefore has rights?

Four years old, about.

 

[Roustabout]

Individuals who don't like the rabbit hole are individuals who don't like to reflect on their beliefs.

Sure. That's it!

 

[therealUT]

Sure. That's it!

I'll feel very confident in this assessment unless and until you provide a reason for why abortion should be illegal but not everything that you believe is morally wrong should be illegal.

 

[Roustabout]

I'll feel very confident in this assessment unless and until you provide a reason for why abortion should be illegal but not everything that you believe is morally wrong should be illegal.

Good for you.

 

[therealUT]

Good for you.

Thank you. Enjoy using the power of the state to coerce the behavior of others in situations in which you cannot offer justification.

Hooray tyranny!

 

[Roustabout]

Thank you. Enjoy using the power of the state to coerce the behavior of others in situations in which you cannot offer justification.

Hooray tyranny!

Hooray! TRUT is the greatest

 

[therealUT]

Hooray! TRUT is the greatest

In the sense of not imposing my beliefs on others through force, unless I have justification... Yeah, I am.

 

[Roustabout]

In the sense of not imposing my beliefs on others through force, unless I have justification... Yeah, I am.

You said a mouthful.

 

[therealUT]

You said a mouthful.

Correct.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Four years old, about.

Is there some reason you have picked that age?
Development?

 

[therealUT]

Is there some reason you have picked that age?
Development?

That's the ballpark area in which they have the capacity to think abstractly and experience sentiments.

Nothing else about humanity is special.

 

[rjd970]

Individuals who don't like the rabbit hole are individuals who don't like to reflect on their beliefs.

I love this.

 

[Roustabout]

I love this.

So you're open to the idea of infanticide up to 4 years of age?

Hoppity hop.

 

[Orangeslice13]

That's the ballpark area in which they have the capacity to think abstractly and experience sentiments.

Nothing else about humanity is special.

Is it your belief that they are not self aware before this age?