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Vols4us said:
Really good posts and another example of fans getting lost in the stats without digging deeper. Their scheme was obviously set up for going down the field with the passing game and running Love. Which explains the lower completion percentages and a possible indication of throwing the ball away more to avoid picks and sacks. As I pointed out previously his TD/interception ratio is good. Add in the effects of the injury.

Going to be an interesting battle.
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Except he didn't throw down field. His yards per attempt was way lower than JG's with almost the same number of attempts. JG is more accurate and better at the deep ball. Their TD/int ratios were the same. His injury keeps getting brought up. Maybe it affected his mobility a little but his stats were exactly the same before the injury as they were after so not sure it made a huge difference. Maybe he wins the job and if so I hope he does well but I just don't see him as anything but a backup. Which is fine I guess. Just don't get why people think he's this huge upgrade.
 
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mrorange211 said:
I have no idea why VOLS fans are so intent on bashing Jones 5 months after he was our coach. If I'm fired from my job and someone like Nick fing Saban calls me I answer, and I go to work for him. Jones' is doing what is best for his family and himself professionally. Let sleeping dogs lie and move the f on.
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Because UT is still paying him more than $200K per month for the next three years. He hasn't moved on. He takes the check; he gets whatever comes with it.
 
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LA Vol said:
Because UT is still paying him more than $200K per month for the next three years. He hasn't moved on. He takes the check; he gets whatever comes with it.
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Absolutely! He's made zero attempts to mitigate the damages either. Anyone who thinks Saban called Butch is living in a fantasy land too. Sexton called Saban and said "Hey, could you use a volunteer?"
 
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drvenner said:
I am honestly not sure that their new OC is an upgrade to Roper and that does not bode well, IMO.
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Possibly. Sc is 14th in the SEC in TDs scores the past two years. Roper was really really bad lol.

Word is they’re creating an entirely new offense. Will that backfire or will it be just what they need? Going to be interesting to watch it unfold
 
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scvolfan7 said:
Possibly. Sc is 14th in the SEC in TDs scores the past two years. Roper was really really bad lol.

Word is they’re creating an entirely new offense. Will that backfire or will it be just what they need? Going to be interesting to watch it unfold
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Not really.
 
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Sleegro said:
Except he didn't throw down field. His yards per attempt was way lower than JG's with almost the same number of attempts. JG is more accurate and better at the deep ball. Their TD/int ratios were the same. His injury keeps getting brought up. Maybe it affected his mobility a little but his stats were exactly the same before the injury as they were after so not sure it made a huge difference. Maybe he wins the job and if so I hope he does well but I just don't see him as anything but a backup. Which is fine I guess. Just don't get why people think he's this huge upgrade.
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In 2016 the 6 games he started (including the sunbowl where he got hurt early) his splits were:

70 - 118 59%
842yds passing
168yds rushing
10 Pass TD
2 Rush TD
1Int

Games were
@zona
Oregon State
@oregon
@cal
Rick
Sun bowl - UNC.

He also came back in 6 months after a bad kneee injury which is cause for concern that he rushed back and maybe never got back to normal. Maybe those numbers were a fluke and he is more mediocre like in 2017 but doing that coming in mid season and on the road is plenty reason for me to think he’s an upgrade.
 
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mrorange211 said:
and that's the fault of the university, not him.
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Or he could find a real coaching job in another conference. He chose to stay in the SEC and become an intern with UT's biggest rival while on UT's payroll. His choices make him fair game and he deserves whatever he gets from whomever cares to dish it out.
 
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scvolfan7 said:
Possibly. Sc is 14th in the SEC in TDs scores the past two years. Roper was really really bad lol.

Word is they’re creating an entirely new offense. Will that backfire or will it be just what they need? Going to be interesting to watch it unfold
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Hopefully it backfires and USC goes 3-9. I'd really enjoy watching that unfold.
 
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LA Vol said:
Or he could find a real coaching job in another conference. He chose to stay in the SEC and become an intern with UT's biggest rival while on UT's payroll. His choices make him fair game and he deserves whatever he gets from whomever cares to dish it out.
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This right here is why it's okay to bash Butch. If he took a HC job at some small school, good luck to him. Or even sit out a year and become a broadcaster. But he's interning at Alabama? Eff that guy. Hope he gets mud on his Jordans every single day.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Absolutely! He's made zero attempts to mitigate the damages either. Anyone who thinks Saban called Butch is living in a fantasy land too. Sexton called Saban and said "Hey, could you use a volunteer?"
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Yep. You can tell Saban's less than thrilled about it. His comments teed up Butch as a punchline. "He's an intern, an analyst, I guess we could have several names for it. He can't coach on the field."
 
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HankHill said:
In 2016 the 6 games he started (including the sunbowl where he got hurt early) his splits were:

70 - 118 59%
842yds passing
168yds rushing
10 Pass TD
2 Rush TD
1Int

Games were
@zona
Oregon State
@oregon
@cal
Rick
Sun bowl - UNC.

He also came back in 6 months after a bad kneee injury which is cause for concern that he rushed back and maybe never got back to normal. Maybe those numbers were a fluke and he is more mediocre like in 2017 but doing that coming in mid season and on the road is plenty reason for me to think he’s an upgrade.
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Just to provide some context to his 2016 starts. He had 3 decent to good starts, 2 fairly bad starts and the bowl game where he had only 6 attempts before the injury.

He had a good game against a 4-8 Oregon team that gave up over 41 points per game that year (126th of 128).

He had a pretty good game against a 5-7 Cal team that gave up over 42 points per game that year (127th of 128).

And an efficient if unspectacular game against a 3-9 Rice team that gave up over 37 points per game that year (115th of 128).

Bowl game was obviously incomplete. And his other 2 starts were pretty mediocre. And I don't understand how late Dec to late Aug is 6 months to return from the injury? Maybe I need to count someone else's fingers?

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Sleegro said:
Just to provide some context to his 2016 starts. He had 3 decent to good starts, 2 fairly bad starts and the bowl game where he had only 6 attempts before the injury.

He had a good game against a 4-8 Oregon team that gave up over 41 points per game that year (126th of 128).

He had a pretty good game against a 5-7 Cal team that gave up over 42 points per game that year (127th of 128).

And an efficient if unspectacular game against a 3-9 Rice team that gave up over 37 points per game that year (115th of 128).

Bowl game was obviously incomplete. And his other 2 starts were pretty mediocre. And I don't understand how late Dec to late Aug is 6 months to return from the injury? Maybe I need to count someone else's fingers?

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Coming back in 6 months meaning returning to football activities. Which could have possibly kept him from ever fully regaining form. You can only play who is on your schedule and out QBs struggled against bad defenses and teams too. Anytime you play on the road at a P5 team and play well I’m not gonna take it for granted.
 
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LA Vol said:
Or he could find a real coaching job in another conference. He chose to stay in the SEC and become an intern with UT's biggest rival while on UT's payroll. His choices make him fair game and he deserves whatever he gets from whomever cares to dish it out.
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This. All day. The guy is a POS coach all the way through, in every facet.
 
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HankHill said:
Coming back in 6 months meaning returning to football activities. Which could have possibly kept him from ever fully regaining form. You can only play who is on your schedule and out QBs struggled against bad defenses and teams too. Anytime you play on the road at a P5 team and play well I’m not gonna take it for granted.
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From Stanford;

Initially, the star QB was not expected to travel Down Under after tearing the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee during last year’s Sun Bowl victory over North Carolina.

However, while ACL injuries can take nine months to a year before they have healed, the Cardinals’ No.10 was back in six months.
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Ron Swanson said:
This right here is why it's okay to bash Butch. If he took a HC job at some small school, good luck to him. Or even sit out a year and become a broadcaster. But he's interning at Alabama? Eff that guy. Hope he gets mud on his Jordans every single day.
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Social media's roasting him and it's his own making.
 
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ron swanson said:
this right here is why it's okay to bash butch. If he took a hc job at some small school, good luck to him. Or even sit out a year and become a broadcaster. But he's interning at alabama? Eff that guy. Hope he gets mud on his jordans every single day.
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
We could lose to ETSU and some of you morans would be hailing it as a sign that Pruitt is the next Saban by replicating the 2007 loss to ULM. No way in hades we're beating WVA. We're coming off our worst season in modern history, had a bad recruiting class (at least for a program that wants to contend in the SEC), and we're bleeding players. I doubt we will even see a bowl game again this decade. Maybe we'll be in the Liberty Bowl by 2020. 2021 will be a rebuilding year and we'll have another coach by 2022. You heard it hear first.
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*here
 
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