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Coug said:
Quick question: If storing ammo in a climate controlled environment is there any real expiration date?
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I don't claim to have any technical info to back it up but I have kept ammo in my gun safe with a small tube heater for 24 years and never had issues. Some of the ammo has been over 10 years old when fired with no issues.
 
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Got to shoot my 9mm Carbine this past week and I love it. Can’t wait to take it home. Waiting on my tax stamp now sucks.
 

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Coug said:
Quick question: If storing ammo in a climate controlled environment is there any real expiration date?
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Okay, never mind. I'll explain now...

Basically, even with a little humidity in the air, ammo will still corrode in the long run without additional protective measures. It slows down considerably, but there will still be times where it will attract the humidity in the air. The problem comes from unsealed primers that can and will go bad over time. If it's sealed, generally it's going to last longer. But you still will get some exterior corrosion. Better to store in airtight and waterproof conditions.

Now, good news for this is military ammo cans tend to fairly cheap. The .50 cal cans normally run about $10 or so and will store up to and a little more than 1,000 5.56 rounds unboxed. Or 1,000 .45 ACP rounds. Plenty of space for over a thousand 9mm. You get the point.

Toss in a desiccant pack (or make your own which I'll explain below) and you will have years of stable storage. I've got stuff that's been packed away for nearly ten years and it looks the same as the day I packed it away. The military grade cans are mainly air tight and waterproof so you won't have to worry about a leaky hot water tank in your basement like I had to deal with. Load, stack, seal and have a worry free life.

Now, you can buy bulk desiccant packs on Amazon or you can gather supplies to make enough to last you a lifetime. The flower drying crystals are basically the same material. I bought a 1.5 pound bag (they run about $10 or so) and a bunch of the tiny craft paper bags from Michaels. Pretty much any craft store will have them. Anyway, use a needle to punch a bunch of holes in it, fill about halfway, seal with tape or staple, and voila, homemade desiccant packs. When I went to Germany this was the method I used and, again, after 4+ years zero corrosion on my firearms or ammo. 10 years on some and still going strong.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I like that objective size and most of the other specs but beware that 24x mag setting. That gives you a roughly 2mm exit pupil on high mag setting. That’s getting kinda small and REALLY small in dawn/dusk settings when your own pupil will be nearly if not fully open.
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Very true, that's one of the things you have to give up in a budget scope to get all the other good features. I've used this scope and seldom turned it up past 14x. You get a pretty decent FOV at that setting.
 
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And GW, the ammo storage ideas above are a good way of keeping you out of trouble with the wife. You offer to take her to Hobby Lobby where you know she'll find something she likes. And along the way, you "find" the materials for the storage. She'll give you the evil eye, but you say "well, sweetie, that's a big investment and I wouldn't want it to go bad."

She'll know you were up to something, but be surprised at your foresight. And consider it's way cheaper than a couple hundred dollar rail and give you a sigh and eye roll before relenting. She gets some nice goodies, you get what you want. Everyone is happy.
 
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txbo said:
Very true, that's one of the things you have to give up in a budget scope to get all the other good features. I've used this scope and seldom turned it up past 14x. You get a pretty decent FOV at that setting.
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Ive got a 4-16x42 on my deer rifle. Again like a 2.6mm exit pupil on high mag. Its got great light transmission though and I really only use 16x in target shooting. Mine is a mildot reticle which corresponds to the 12x mag position. And that has been plenty of mag for me thus far with a 3.5mm exit pupil.

At the 2/3 mag setting on that scope it will have no problems with eye pupil fill and should work great I would bet.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Ive got a 4-16x42 on my deer rifle. Again like a 2.6mm exit pupil on high mag. Its got great light transmission though and I really only use 16x in target shooting. Mine is a mildot reticle which corresponds to the 12x mag position. And that has been plenty of mag for me thus far with a 3.5mm exit pupil.

At the 2/3 mag setting on that scope it will have no problems with eye pupil fill and should work great I would bet.
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Right on. The magnification is there if you really want to try to aim small but at 300-400 yards, it really wont be needed much.

Also, I don't know whether you noticed or not but this is a front focal plane scope so you can use the mil dots or range from any magnification. Front focal plane on a sub $400 scope is amazing.
 
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txbo said:
Right on. The magnification is there if you really want to try to aim small but at 300-400 yards, it really wont be needed much.

Also, I don't know whether you noticed or not but this is a front focal plane scope so you can use the mil dots or range from any magnification. Front focal plane on a sub $400 scope is amazing.
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Yeah that is a great price on a FFP reticle. Mine is obviously old school RFP since it’s got a Mil Mag. But I’m used to angle calcs from the day job and if I need to say quickly dump to 6x mag (which is a great rest mag for me) I can do that math easily. And my reticle stays nice a crisp too. Plus, before FFP this is what we all did anyway!

But that is indeed a lot of scope for the money with FFP to boot. I didn’t see or don’t remember the light transmission specs? Edit: went back and looked couldn’t find it but doesn’t really matter for the price and features and most modern glass and coatings are near mid 90’s on low mag.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Yeah that is a great price on a FFP reticle. Mine is obviously old school RFP since it’s got a Mil Mag. But I’m used to angle calcs from the day job and if I need to say quickly dump to 6x mag (which is a great rest mag for me) I can do that math easily. And my reticle stays nice a crisp too. Plus, before FFP this is what we all did anyway!

But that is indeed a lot of scope for the money with FFP to boot. I didn’t see or don’t remember the light transmission specs?
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I don't know on the light Dallas.

I don't actually own this optic at the moment but when people ask me to help them get into a precision rig on a tight budget, this is a go to scope.

Mil is the go to for most uses today, F-Class being the exception. The old paper punchers still call in MOA.

With this scope, a new shooter can learn to correct off of splash, range and holdover from any magnification.
 
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txbo said:
I don't know on the light Dallas.

I don't actually own this optic at the moment but when people ask me to help them get into a precision rig on a tight budget, this is a go to scope.

Mil is the go to for most uses today, F-Class being the exception. The old paper punchers still call in MOA.

With this scope, a new shooter can learn to correct off of splash, range and holdover from any magnification.
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I went back and looked. It wasn’t specified but regardless it’s a lot of scope for the money. If you’ve shot it and like it I’m sure it’s an easy recommendation 👍
 
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txbo said:
It can't be drawn from the sitting position without covering your junk.
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I don't have that much junk....

Seriously, I get what you're saying. "Never cover anything with your muzzle you don't intend to shoot." But as is the case with any "rule" there are almost always exceptions, and for me this is one of them. Carry "abaft the beam", and risk someone trying to take my gun from behind; carry at 3 o'clock and now I have a concealment and print issue; or carry at 1 o'clock and leave the pipe empty. For me, Option 3 is the best choice.

If I ever have to draw my weapon off-duty, I'd rather you not know I'm armed until it's too late for you to adjust your tactics.

Whatever works for you works for you.
 
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I can’t carry appendix, I’m ambidextrous , so I find it best I carry 6 o’clock, if I have to grab one of my boys in one hand and draw with the other then I can either way, no matter where I am. My shirt keeps the gun covered, never had it show .
 
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Grand Vol said:
And GW, the ammo storage ideas above are a good way of keeping you out of trouble with the wife. You offer to take her to Hobby Lobby where you know she'll find something she likes. And along the way, you "find" the materials for the storage. She'll give you the evil eye, but you say "well, sweetie, that's a big investment and I wouldn't want it to go bad."

She'll know you were up to something, but be surprised at your foresight. And consider it's way cheaper than a couple hundred dollar rail and give you a sigh and eye roll before relenting. She gets some nice goodies, you get what you want. Everyone is happy.
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To add to that, Hobby Lobby always has some decent coupons floating around so its even cheaper.
 
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