TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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Kushner security clearance being held up specifically because of Mueller investigation. His access to top secret materials may be yanked by Kelly as early as Friday.

Apparently a dozen+ "at his level" are similarly without clearance in WH.

Crazy situation. Nightmare really.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Kushner security clearance being held up specifically because of Mueller investigation. His access to top secret materials may be yanked by Kelly as early as Friday.

Apparently a dozen+ "at his level" are similarly without clearance in WH.

Crazy situation. Nightmare really.
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Trump pissed off and exposed the incompetent FBI and now there's a witch hunt on to try and cover their ass
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
As I've said before, Trump is gonna lose this battle. Only a fool attacks his own intelligence and law enforcement folks. Paybacks a *****.
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So you think this is a game? If the allegations in the new indictments are true I don’t want to here another thing about Comey’s firing being obstruction of justice. The man was completely incompetent.
 
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hog88 said:
So you think this is a game? If the allegations in the new indictments are true I don’t want to here another thing about Comey’s firing being obstruction of justice. The man was completely incompetent.
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The best part is that liberals wanted him fired. Then when he was fired they cried about it
 
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hog88 said:
So you think this is a game? If the allegations in the new indictments are true I don’t want to here another thing about Comey’s firing being obstruction of justice. The man was completely incompetent.
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I agree Comey was a showboating assmunch. He deserved to be fired back in 2016. The fact that Trump failed to fire him when he took office. Why? Then Trump eventually decides to fire him, goes to Rosenstein and says "make up an excuse" to fire him.

I agree Trump had the right to fire Comey. He deserved it. But the way he did it demonstrates obstruction.
 
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Mick said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...27a6ccb38eb_story.html?utm_term=.4ee6d8f519b9


A new indictment has long been expected in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s prosecution of Manafort and his right-hand man, Rick Gates, on fraud and money laundering charges. Manafort served as President Trump’s campaign chairman from June to August 2016. Gates also served as a top official on Trump’s campaign. The new indictment contains 32 counts, including tax charges.

The new charges are related to alleged false tax returns, bank fraud and failure to report foreign financial accounts.

These Charges are in addition to the new charges filed yesterday.

The charges filed Thursday include:

• 16 counts related to false individual income tax returns

• seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts

• five counts of bank fraud conspiracy

• four counts of bank fraud
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Mueller Brings More Charges Against Manafort, Gates | WAMU

The charges do not include allegations that either man colluded with a foreign attack on the election, a point emphasized in a statement from a spokesman for Manafort.

“Paul Manafort is innocent of the allegations set out in the newly filed indictments and he is confident that he will be acquitted of all charges,” spokesman Jason Maloni said in a statement provided to NPR. “The new allegations against Mr. Manafort, once again, have nothing to do with Russia and 2016 election interference/collusion. Mr. Manafort is confident that he will be acquitted and violations of his constitutional rights will be remedied.”
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
I agree Comey was a showboating assmunch. He deserved to be fired back in 2016. The fact that Trump failed to fire him when he took office. Why? Then Trump eventually decides to fire him, goes to Rosenstein and says "make up an excuse" to fire him.

I agree Trump had the right to fire Comey. He deserved it. But the way he did it demonstrates obstruction.
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The indictments (if allegations are true) of Manafort, Gates and the Russians demonstrate complete incompetence of Comey's FBI and Obama's intelligence services.

In no way does Comey's firing qualify as OOJ.
 
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Mick said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...27a6ccb38eb_story.html?utm_term=.4ee6d8f519b9


A new indictment has long been expected in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s prosecution of Manafort and his right-hand man, Rick Gates, on fraud and money laundering charges. Manafort served as President Trump’s campaign chairman from June to August 2016. Gates also served as a top official on Trump’s campaign. The new indictment contains 32 counts, including tax charges.

The new charges are related to alleged false tax returns, bank fraud and failure to report foreign financial accounts.

These Charges are in addition to the new charges filed yesterday.

The charges filed Thursday include:

• 16 counts related to false individual income tax returns

• seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts

• five counts of bank fraud conspiracy

• four counts of bank fraud
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Follow the money.
 
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Mr. Gates was present for the most significant periods of activity of the campaign, as Mr. Trump began developing policy positions and his digital operation engaged with millions of voters on platforms such as Facebook. Even after Mr. Manafort was fired by Mr. Trump in August 2016, Mr. Gates remained on in a different role, as a liaison between the campaign and the Republican National Committee. He traveled aboard the Trump plane through Election Day.

Rick Gates, Trump Campaign Aide, to Plead Guilty in Mueller Inquiry and Cooperate - The New York Times
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Mr. Gates was present for the most significant periods of activity of the campaign, as Mr. Trump began developing policy positions and his digital operation engaged with millions of voters on platforms such as Facebook. Even after Mr. Manafort was fired by Mr. Trump in August 2016, Mr. Gates remained on in a different role, as a liaison between the campaign and the Republican National Committee. He traveled aboard the Trump plane through Election Day.

Rick Gates, Trump Campaign Aide, to Plead Guilty in Mueller Inquiry and Cooperate - The New York Times
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The blueprint is in place. Gates and Manafort laundered money for the Russians and in so doing committed crimes and exposes themselves to blackmail.

Now consider Trump. He hides his finances. He has repeatedly lied about his business dealings with them. How hard is it to figure Trump has done the same thing Gates and Manafort did?

Follow the money.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The blueprint is in place. Gates and Manafort laundered money for the Russians and in so doing committed crimes and exposes themselves to blackmail.

Now consider Trump. He hides his finances. He has repeatedly lied about his business dealings with them. How hard is it to figure Trump has done the same thing Gates and Manafort did?

Follow the money.
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Mueller is laying it out bit by bit. When the pieces come together it will be the downfall of the Trump family and his cohorts.

It has always been about the money and ego for Trump. It will be his undoing.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The blueprint is in place. Gates and Manafort laundered money for the Russians and in so doing committed crimes and exposes themselves to blackmail.

Now consider Trump. He hides his finances. He has repeatedly lied about his business dealings with them. How hard is it to figure Trump has done the same thing Gates and Manafort did?

Follow the money.
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There's No evidence produced that Trump has done anything wrong....try again.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Mr. Gates was present for the most significant periods of activity of the campaign, as Mr. Trump began developing policy positions and his digital operation engaged with millions of voters on platforms such as Facebook. Even after Mr. Manafort was fired by Mr. Trump in August 2016, Mr. Gates remained on in a different role, as a liaison between the campaign and the Republican National Committee. He traveled aboard the Trump plane through Election Day.

Rick Gates, Trump Campaign Aide, to Plead Guilty in Mueller Inquiry and Cooperate - The New York Times
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Do you find the headline to be a tad misleading?
"Rick Gates, Trump Campaign Aide, to Plead Guilty in Mueller Inquiry and Cooperate"

Kinda makes it look like Muller has gates for colluding with Russia and he is going to work with him to bring down bigger fish.

If I was writing this it would look something like this...

" Rick Gates, longtime political consultant who once served as Mr. Trump’s deputy campaign chairman has plead guilty to money laundering from 2013."
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Do you find the headline to be a tad misleading?
"Rick Gates, Trump Campaign Aide, to Plead Guilty in Mueller Inquiry and Cooperate"

Kinda makes it look like Muller has gates for colluding with Russia and he is going to work with him to bring down bigger fish.

If I was writing this it would look something like this...

" Rick Gates, longtime political consultant who once served as Mr. Trump’s deputy campaign chairman has plead guilty to money laundering from 2013."
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Nothing wrong with the NYT headline. It is truth.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
You don't think it is just a little misleading?

You know as well as I do that the average Joe doesn't read past the headline.
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Sadly I don't think the average Joe is keeping up with all of this. So it may be misleading to that constituency, but I can't help that one doesn't read past news ticker blurbs.
 
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"The largest amount of money from the NRA in 2016, a total of $30m, went to Mr Trump. It helped pay for advertisements supporting his campaign and attacking that of his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. The money was spent by a wing of the NRA that is not legally obligated to reveal who its donors are."

This news comes a day after Mueller charges Manafort and Gates with laundering $30m. I'm sure that is just a coincidence..

FBI ‘investigating whether Russian money went to NRA’s campaign to help elect Donald Trump’ | The Independent
 
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zeppelin128 said:
"The largest amount of money from the NRA in 2016, a total of $30m, went to Mr Trump. It helped pay for advertisements supporting his campaign and attacking that of his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. The money was spent by a wing of the NRA that is not legally obligated to reveal who its donors are."

This news comes a day after Mueller charges Manafort and Gates with laundering $30m. I'm sure that is just a coincidence..

FBI ‘investigating whether Russian money went to NRA’s campaign to help elect Donald Trump’ | The Independent
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Desperation has set in.
 
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hog88 said:
Desperation has set in.
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That isn't desperation, that is Mueller uncovering a vast conspiracy with Russian oligarchs and American citizens and lobbying organizations to attempt to subvert our Republic's election process.

Follow the money straight to high crimes and treason.
 
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