Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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Septic said:
That's probably true and I'd also go as far as to say that the best weapon to use in any situation is the one that the user is most comfortable with. I personally wouldn't be OK with sending rifled rounds through my house with kids all over.

On a 10 acre ranch with no kids, a belt fed minigun is the right home defense option.
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Indeed, we use what works best for us. For you, it’s what you have, for me, it’s my colt CAR-15 with an 11.5” barrel and mounted flashlight.

If I had 100 acres, I’d just set up mortars lol
 
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Septic said:
That's probably true and I'd also go as far as to say that the best weapon to use in any situation is the one that the user is most comfortable with. I personally wouldn't be OK with sending rifled rounds through my house with kids all over.

On a 10 acre ranch with no kids, a belt fed minigun is the right home defense option.
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I do live on 50 acres. Not worried about stray rounds hitting a neighbor's house.
 
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luthervol said:
I would. You can post a few more and it will not change the answer.

I do not have an issue with a person having a gun for protection. The gun should not be an assault weapon (AR 15).
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So how is a semi auto AR15 "assault weapon" any different than a semi auto hand gun? You can get high capacity mags for either.

Is it because one is long black and scary, and the other is small and shiny?

Fn racist. Or another talking point dead head lib.

I know you say you are an older adult. That is the sad part, that you actually think this way.
 
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Had to go to a meeting today at work completely revolves around active shooters in case someone we work with decided to go postal. I learned quite a bit actually I’m glad we had the meeting
 
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I'm a lifelong conservative and supporter of the right to bear arms, but I've never really been a huge gun person.

I remember taking a skeet shooting class on a college campus in the 90s and not giving it a second thought--my how times have changed.

A recent work event really gave me pause. I hired a young guy right out of college. He seemed bright and ready to work hard. After he'd been there a few months he started to have some issues with.... I guess you'd say his personality. He was just odd and was either really high or really low.

He was out of work for a week and then came back with a doctor's note from a mental health facility. He'd attempted suicide, but was cleared to work.

On the first day back from being under suicide watch, he went to a local drugstore and bought a handgun on his lunch break.

He came back and showed everyone pictures and was making a huge fuss over it. He said he had it in his car and freaked everyone out. I called HR, went through that grind, etc and had the cops come escort him away.

Not really being up on laws, background checks etc, it was really a shock to me that someone fresh out of a mental institution could buy a gun on the spot.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
Had to go to a meeting today at work completely revolves around active shooters in case someone we work with decided to go postal. I learned quite a bit actually I’m glad we had the meeting
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Our sheriff's dept has been holding sessions for all the local churches since the Texas shooting. The meetings have been packed, SRO. How to prepare and plan, etc.

The idea that some people need to be armed inside a church is anathema to everyone I would think. However, we live in a world with crazies and a press that makes them famous.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I’ll skip past many of the arguments and go straight to conceding a few points, followed up by a question.

Time and time again, we unfortunately see/read news of another tragic mass killing, often times enabled by the deployment of an AR-15 style weapon/platform.

Why do we keep seeing the AR-15 platform being utilized for mass murder?

It’s an incredibly easy platform to operate.
It’s an incredibly efficient platform as well.

It’s also everywhere. The AR-15 is ubiquitous. There are over 8M in circulation.

If we were to ban them, would it just be production? If ownership, how would we collect them?
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If we stopped production and sell then we would have 8 million is circulation. If we don't stop production and sale we will have 10 million, then 12 million, etc... in circulation. Stop the leak in the boat, and then start bailing out the water.
 
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luthervol said:
If we stopped production and sell then we would have 8 million is circulation. If we don't stop production and sale we will have 10 million, then 12 million, etc... in circulation. Stop the leak in the boat, and then start bailing out the water.
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What exactly does bailing out the water mean to you? I mean I know what you're saying but I want to see you put it in writing.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I didn’t see your post. I agree with you.

Using an AR platform for home defense is a terrible idea.
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Septic said:
That's probably true and I'd also go as far as to say that the best weapon to use in any situation is the one that the user is most comfortable with. I personally wouldn't be OK with sending rifled rounds through my house with kids all over.

On a 10 acre ranch with no kids, a belt fed minigun is the right home defense option.
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85SugarVol said:
Simple ole 12 gauge will suffice here :wink2:
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Actually, you both are incorrect. An AR is actually safer in a HD role than a shotgun or a pistol.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
What exactly does bailing out the water mean to you? I mean I know what you're saying but I want to see you put it in writing.
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There would be a natural gradual reduction even if nothing was done. Yesterday in Atlanta a guy was pulled over and they confiscated one pound of marijuana and two AR-15s. Just the ones confiscated in crimes, drug busts, and raids would reduce the number. If people that had them for the "right reason" never sold theirs or used them in a crime, then over time, the percentage of AR 15s in the wrong hands would dwindle.

Also, (to the ridicule of the gun nuts on this site) I think a buy back could actually help reduce the number.

If there are 5 million gun nuts out there that love their AR 15 but do not misuse it, they will continue to own it and be able to gaze at its beauty nightly. The other 3 million will reduce over time. (only to be replaced by the next gun of choice)

Which means....we need to make the gun of choice less deadly.
 
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luthervol said:
There would be a natural gradual reduction even if nothing was done. Yesterday in Atlanta a guy was pulled over and they confiscated one pound of marijuana and two AR-15s. Just the ones confiscated in crimes, drug busts, and raids would reduce the number. If people that had them for the "right reason" never sold theirs or used them in a crime, then over time, the percentage of AR 15s in the wrong hands would dwindle.

Also, (to the ridicule of the gun nuts on this site) I think a buy back could actually help reduce the number.

If there are 5 million gun nuts out there that love their AR 15 but do not misuse it. They will continue to own it and be able to gaze at its beauty nightly. The other 3 million will reduce over time. (only to be replaced by the next gun of choice)

Which means....we need to make the gun of choice less deadly.
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Question for all you anti-gun, anti-freedom, anti-constitution liberals. Does the FBI own any of the blame here? I see you all crying and whining about guns as usual but no anger at all towards them.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Question for all you anti-gun, anti-freedom, anti-constitution liberals. Does the FBI own any of the blame here? I see you all crying and whining about guns as usual but no anger at all towards them.
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You eliminated everyone with your descriptors.
 
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luthervol said:
There would be a natural gradual reduction even if nothing was done. Yesterday in Atlanta a guy was pulled over and they confiscated one pound of marijuana and two AR-15s. Just the ones confiscated in crimes, drug busts, and raids would reduce the number. If people that had them for the "right reason" never sold theirs or used them in a crime, then over time, the percentage of AR 15s in the wrong hands would dwindle.

Also, (to the ridicule of the gun nuts on this site) I think a buy back could actually help reduce the number.

If there are 5 million gun nuts out there that love their AR 15 but do not misuse it, they will continue to own it and be able to gaze at its beauty nightly. The other 3 million will reduce over time. (only to be replaced by the next gun of choice)

Which means....we need to make the gun of choice less deadly.
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You’d ban these if given the opportunity:

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Muaaaaah. Muh scary pop gun.
 
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Are you still in this conversation, luther?

I would have thought you would have shut up by now or maybe taken the time to read up on the subject.
 
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luthervol said:
There would be a natural gradual reduction even if nothing was done. Yesterday in Atlanta a guy was pulled over and they confiscated one pound of marijuana and two AR-15s. Just the ones confiscated in crimes, drug busts, and raids would reduce the number. If people that had them for the "right reason" never sold theirs or used them in a crime, then over time, the percentage of AR 15s in the wrong hands would dwindle.

Also, (to the ridicule of the gun nuts on this site) I think a buy back could actually help reduce the number.

If there are 5 million gun nuts out there that love their AR 15 but do not misuse it, they will continue to own it and be able to gaze at its beauty nightly. The other 3 million will reduce over time. (only to be replaced by the next gun of choice)

Which means....we need to make the gun of choice less deadly.
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Getting rid of AR-15's is like banning specific breeds of dogs while citing all dog attacks for your reason. There are plenty of equally lethal and just as frequently lethal platforms out there that would just step into the void left by the AR-15.

You've cited rate of fire as another complaint. If you wanted to really effect that, ban all guns with box magazines. Tubular mags for all long guns and revolvers only for handguns, would that make you happy?
 
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Madscientistvol said:
You've cited rate of fire as another complaint. If you wanted to really effect that, ban all guns with box magazines. Tubular mags for all long guns and revolvers only for handguns, would that make you happy?
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luther won't be happy until all things that go bang are eliminated.

Don't let his comments otherwise fool you.
 
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luthervol said:
Think of what makes someone strap a bomb to their body, walk into a crowd of innocent people, and blow themselves up. Or drive a truck down a busy sidewalk killing as many innocent people as possible.

That will lead you in a better direction.
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I work with people constantly that have spent years in the e of the middle east. you don't have the slightest clue about Islam or the motivation of those people. I just worked with a guy that lives in Minneapolis. the taxpayers of Minnesota paid to bring the pieces of a suicide bomber back to the us for burial because his family is here. what is wrong with you people?
 
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