Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

Lol nice. He gave you the perfect setup you didn’t have to even work for it. No full credit on that one 😂

To be honest he's been setup the whole time and he just doesn't realize it. It rather funny too because his people have rarely even come in to help him out. They are probably hoping he just shuts up.
 
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You know what the response to that is don't ya?

Luther believes that that cannot /won't happen here.

The American leftists are so much smarter than anybody that has tried these concepts before.That justifies everything they want and believe. The biggest difference is that we have always had a peaceful transition of power in this country and the vast majority of Americans accept the leadership no matter how idiotic they believe it is (left or right). The left further knows the first step to eating an elephant is that first bite. (Obama care for example gets you closer to government provided health care).

"Fundamentally change" the country by undermining it's very foundation - The Constitution - and you have the next bite. Baby steps.
 
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To be honest he's been setup the whole time and he just doesn't realize it. It rather funny too because his people have rarely even come in to help him out. They are probably hoping he just shuts up.
Naaaaah, He is their "Palestinian" He carries their water, and they don't have to get involved. They are cheering wildly from the sidelines
 
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No truer words were ever spoken. Do me a favor. Go by the statue in OK City and hang your head as you offer an apologetic prayer.

Now luther, you could have left well enough alone, but now it's going to get personal...

So, you don't want to have this argument with me because of your ignorance in the matter. Your own self admitted ignorance in the matter, by the way. All you can do in this thread is take a deep breath, connect the two idiot gun hating brain cells you have and just scream "BAN!" at the top of your lungs.

Then accuse others of not wanting to have a debate on the entire issue. Crazy?

As many have stated, there are so many facets and angles to the school shooting problem that need addressing. But you cannot see past your own ignorance to even speak of the matter. Hoosier started a good thread about different things that could be done, some could be done rather quickly.

But did you even want to debate any of those points? No, your idiocy shows out yet again by dismissing everything and deciding you have to have the conversation about guns and only about guns, and **** everyone else and what they think. You'd rather leave it up to a bunch of politicians in Congress that play ****nuts for months on end, arguing over every word in a bill before admitting nothing will get done. And in the meantime, another school shooting occurs and you want to blame firearms again.

Because you are ignorant on the matter. Which shows each and every time you apply your idiot fingers to the keyboard. What will take less time? Watching Congress play politics and nothing get done or actually set up proper security at our schools?

Don't bother answering because your reply will likely be stupid.

You have no idea what laws on are on the books to begin with.

You have no idea of the technical side of things.

You have no idea of the history behind gun control.

All your idiot brain can do is scream "BAN!" and "NRA!" Frankly, I would have thought you would have gotten up to speed on the topic by now. Sadly, no. You wallow in your ignorance and wear it like a badge of honor. And even worse, you admit it.

If you cannot even consider alternative plans except to trust the aforementioned idiot Congress that screws the citizenry for their own self gain, I'd suggest just shutting up and not posting on the matter.
 
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Liberal logic and “ghost guns”:

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Cute meme but you avoided answering my question.

Come on now, I answered yours.

Should we have access to the same guns as the military?

Should we have access to the same weapons as the military?

Yes, of course. Because police and military are citizens too. My life is worth just as much as theirs, they want the best, so do I.
 
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"Fundamentally change" the country by undermining it's very foundation - The Constitution - and you have the next bite. Baby steps.

Im sure when the founding fathers wrote the constitution they imagined a scenario where an 18 year old mentally ill kid can legally purchase an AR (which didnt exist in those days) and attenpt to kill everyone in his school.
 
Yes, of course. Because police and military are citizens too. My life is worth just as much as theirs, they want the best, so do I.

To be clear. Citizens should have the same access to all same types of weapons as our military. That's your position?
 
Im sure when the founding fathers wrote the constitution they imagined a scenario where an 18 year old mentally ill kid can legally purchase an AR (which didnt exist in those days) and attenpt to kill everyone in his school.

How many kids back then we’re looking to kill a lot of people?
 
Im sure when the founding fathers wrote the constitution they imagined a scenario where an 18 year old mentally ill kid can legally purchase an AR (which didnt exist in those days) and attenpt to kill everyone in his school.
And that is relevant... how?
 
Cute meme but you avoided answering my question.

Come on now, I answered yours.

Should we have access to the same guns as the military?

Should we have access to the same weapons as the military?

We don’t have access to military artillery, not without proper permitting.

If we went to war and armed our infantrymen with AR-15s, they’d be as good as dead before deplaning.

If stupid could fly, you’d be an SR-71 Blackbird.
 
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You know what the response to that is don't ya?

Luther believes that that cannot /won't happen here.

The American leftists are so much smarter than anybody that has tried these concepts before.That justifies everything they want and believe. The biggest difference is that we have always had a peaceful transition of power in this country and the vast majority of Americans accept the leadership no matter how idiotic they believe it is (left or right). The left further knows the first step to eating an elephant is that first bite. (Obama care for example gets you closer to government provided health care).

"Fundamentally change" the country by undermining it's very foundation - The Constitution - and you have the next bite. Baby steps.

On one hand “that could never happen here” and on the other “Trump is a dictator. Litrerally Hitler.”
 
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Im sure when the founding fathers wrote the constitution they imagined a scenario where an 18 year old mentally ill kid can legally purchase an AR (which didnt exist in those days) and attenpt to kill everyone in his school.

Your little comment is cute. Do you think they envisioned hundreds of thousands of kids being aborted because "muh body"?
 
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You know what the response to that is don't ya?

Luther believes that that cannot /won't happen here.

The American leftists are so much smarter than anybody that has tried these concepts before.That justifies everything they want and believe. The biggest difference is that we have always had a peaceful transition of power in this country and the vast majority of Americans accept the leadership no matter how idiotic they believe it is (left or right). The left further knows the first step to eating an elephant is that first bite. (Obama care for example gets you closer to government provided health care).

"Fundamentally change" the country by undermining it's very foundation - The Constitution - and you have the next bite. Baby steps.

When I used to travel international gun ownership would eventually come up. And I always welcomed the discussion.

Yes I own guns.

No it’s not because I don’t feel safe America isn’t the wild Wild West anymore.

No You don’t see guns everywhere when you walk around in public.

No do not let this issue affect you from visiting America. Please come see us and I assure you you are as safe there as I am here. In fact you might be safer!!!

What I believe is just something Luther’s mind can never resolve. About 250 years ago we said ENOUGH and got off our asses and threw our overlords out. And we had a great bunch of people in place to give us a framework to make sure we don’t have to do it again!!

We don’t hate our government. Hell we picked them. But we expect them to work for us, stay the hell out of our way, and basically leave us the hell alone. The basic American spirit doesn’t need a bunch of damn overlords! But it’s a function we have to have and it’s in our best interests to have it functionally for day to day business of our country. But not day to day business of us individuals. So stop dictating minutia items like which particular type of firearm within a given firearm action type (semi auto here) that’s already been approved and accepted and widely proliferated that it’s too damn late to do anything about it anyway. And no that does not and will not EVER mean you can have them back. Ever.
 
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If stupid could fly, you’d be an SR-71 Blackbird.
I need one of those btw. I think I should be able to have one too since luther believes we can let every women who wants an abortion have one simply because they need/want one. That is fair, isn't it? And we all know how leftists are about fairness.
 
Now luther, you could have left well enough alone, but now it's going to get personal...

So, you don't want to have this argument with me because of your ignorance in the matter. Your own self admitted ignorance in the matter, by the way. All you can do in this thread is take a deep breath, connect the two idiot gun hating brain cells you have and just scream "BAN!" at the top of your lungs.

Then accuse others of not wanting to have a debate on the entire issue. Crazy?

As many have stated, there are so many facets and angles to the school shooting problem that need addressing. But you cannot see past your own ignorance to even speak of the matter. Hoosier started a good thread about different things that could be done, some could be done rather quickly.

But did you even want to debate any of those points? No, your idiocy shows out yet again by dismissing everything and deciding you have to have the conversation about guns and only about guns, and **** everyone else and what they think. You'd rather leave it up to a bunch of politicians in Congress that play ****nuts for months on end, arguing over every word in a bill before admitting nothing will get done. And in the meantime, another school shooting occurs and you want to blame firearms again.

Because you are ignorant on the matter. Which shows each and every time you apply your idiot fingers to the keyboard. What will take less time? Watching Congress play politics and nothing get done or actually set up proper security at our schools?

Don't bother answering because your reply will likely be stupid.

You have no idea what laws on are on the books to begin with.

You have no idea of the technical side of things.

You have no idea of the history behind gun control.

All your idiot brain can do is scream "BAN!" and "NRA!" Frankly, I would have thought you would have gotten up to speed on the topic by now. Sadly, no. You wallow in your ignorance and wear it like a badge of honor. And even worse, you admit it.

If you cannot even consider alternative plans except to trust the aforementioned idiot Congress that screws the citizenry for their own self gain, I'd suggest just shutting up and not posting on the matter.

You used a lot of words to say nothing. I trust that I am more involved in the daily safety and security of public school students then pretty much every other individual on this board. Don't presume to know things which you do not.
 
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Im sure when the founding fathers wrote the constitution they imagined a scenario where an 18 year old mentally ill kid can legally purchase an AR (which didnt exist in those days) and attenpt to kill everyone in his school.

They had weapons more impressive than the ar. Even allowed citizens to own cannons
 
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