Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

[Vol8188]

That proves nothing other than how as a society we have continued to move left. That has always been the trend and always will be. In most ways (especially socially and science based) a republican is just a democrat from 30 -
50 years ago.

Your party believes there’s no bioglical differences in the genders. Let’s drop the “pro science” routine.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Ideally it would come to be realized that it is a complete myth that there are absolutely no gun restrictions under the Second Amendment.

There are already age restrictions.

We don't allow convicted felons to have them.

There are background checks in legitimate purchases.

So it's just a question of degree. Reasonable restrictions are allowed. Why people insist the right is abridged by, for example requiring training and a more thorough background check than what we have now, is sophistry.

With the exception of your first paragraph I don’t have a huge deal with the rest of your post.

But on the first paragraph your still leaning on a fallacious argument as far as I’m concerned on the previous length and just again point to the data. Theres no way you would argue that statement in a court of law you know it’s a loser. But sure we aren’t in a court of law here so the threshold is much lower agreed.

Edit: actually I misread your first paragraph but I still have issues with it. Yes I agree that the second amendment is not carte blanche but I also submit it is somewhat unique in the world. And the level to which that right extends is continually debated and will continue to be and I am guessing you and I probably don’t see the same level of broadness on it’s interpretation. 😬

 

[SLICKYINC]

It's bull**** that we have to consider armed l.e.o protection at every school. I mean, the very idea that school shootings are so bad in this country that one SRO just cant get the job done...maddening.

We've got cultural problems, societal problems, and of course, policy problems. No cooperation from the NRA crowd here, just "muh wild hawg huntin'" and "muh insurrection!"

The NRA takes zero money from government and no members have committed mass shootings.

Planned parenthood takes about $500 mil from the government and kills about 330,000 a year. You know because "muh body".

I agree, we have a cultural and societal problem.

 

[Bjorn_Yesterday]

The NRA takes zero money from government and no members have committed mass shootings.

Planned parenthood takes about $500 mil from the government and kills about 330,000 a year. You know because "muh body".

I agree, we have a cultural and societal problem.

None of the text in bold has anything to do with my post. Different conversations.

 

[NorthDallas40]

It's bull**** that we have to consider armed l.e.o protection at every school. I mean, the very idea that school shootings are so bad in this country that one SRO just cant get the job done...maddening.

We've got cultural problems, societal problems, and of course, policy problems. No cooperation from the NRA crowd here, just "muh wild hawg huntin'" and "muh insurrection!"

I absolutely agree with you on the cultural and societal statement. But with regard to the object of ALL of your vitriol consider it takes two to tango. And like it or not the burden is currently on the left right now. And if all they do is keep bringing up what has failed before and yeah it’s falling on deaf ears. But that is not entirely due to the right. Change the dialog man, that’s all.

 

[TN Ribs]

The NRA takes zero money from government and no members have committed mass shootings.

Planned parenthood takes about $500 mil from the government and kills about 330,000 a year. You know because "muh body".

I agree, we have a cultural and societal problem.

Not one dime of government money funds abortions. In fact, it's against Federal Law.

 

[SLICKYINC]

None of the text in bold has anything to do with my post. Different conversations.

You just brought up the "NRA crowd" in which I responded to it in the way I felt like I wanted to. My comments are relevant to the conversation rather you want to respond to it or not.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Not one dime of government money funds abortions. In fact, it's against Federal Law.

Well it seems like they don't need tax payer money then. I mean the NRA receives ZERO and seems to be getting the job done.

 

[Squints]

Not one dime of government money funds abortions. In fact, it's against Federal Law.

Slice hairs all you want, planned parenthood operates on federal funding. How you/they want to define where the money goes does NOT eliminate the fact they perform abortions.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Because he is exactly what we need in a president.

A pro business billionaire? hmmmmmm

I really like and respect what Bill Gates has done. But like somone else said, he is doing far more good than he would as a government pawn.

 

[luthervol]

The only thing I disagree with you on is I do not think luther is that shallow. I think he knows precisely what he wants, but knows better than to be honest about it. And that is why we get crap about "common sense gun laws" and "reasonable" regulation.

I guess you should get some credit for being half right. I have never advocated for the elimination of guns. I think people should be allowed to have guns for hunting, recreation, and protection.

The whole gun nut stance that the objective from the left is the elimination of guns is absurd. It's a bs tactic to justify not giving an inch. That is what is shallow.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I guess you should get some credit for being half right. I have never advocated for the elimination of guns. I think people should be allowed to have guns for hunting, recreation, and protection.

The whole gun nut stance that the objective from the left is the elimination of guns is absurd. It's a bs tactic to justify not giving an inch. That is what is shallow.

A'ight then, why don't you explain just what it is that the left wants.

And thanks in advance for 'allowing' me to keep my AR.

 

[SLICKYINC]

I guess you should get some credit for being half right. I have never advocated for the elimination of guns. I think people should be allowed to have guns for hunting, recreation, and protection.

The whole gun nut stance that the objective from the left is the elimination of guns is absurd. It's a bs tactic to justify not giving an inch. That is what is shallow.

How many is an acceptable number for planned parenthood to abort yearly?

 

[FLVOL_79]

Not one dime of government money funds abortions. In fact, it's against Federal Law.

Does planned parenthood receive federal money?......

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

How many is an acceptable number for planned parenthood to abort yearly?

As many as they want, because.. it's MY body, and I 'need' it.

Oh wait. It is because I 'want' one. Funny how they can interchange those two words to suit their argument isn't it?

 

[luthervol]

No he’s saying criminals don’t obey laws or have accountability so stop trying to punish law abiding citizens further over what criminals are already doing with regard to current laws and regulations. That’s stupid.

Criminals don't obey laws by definition. I'm more focused on the ones that would have engaged in the activity had it not been illegal but decided not to because it was illegal. They are not criminals because they chose to follow the law. They did not engage in the activity because they did not want to be criminal. The law stopped citizens from engaging in an activity that society determined was best to avoid. That's the way with laws. Not everyone will follow the law (EVER) but it's crazy to use that as a reason for not having the law. If it was, we'd have no laws.

That's always been a meaningless argument latched onto by the right..

 

[NorthDallas40]

I guess you should get some credit for being half right. I have never advocated for the elimination of guns. I think people should be allowed to have guns for hunting, recreation, and protection.

The whole gun nut stance that the objective from the left is the elimination of guns is absurd. It's a bs tactic to justify not giving an inch. That is what is shallow.

Admit it Luther and come clean. This is an epic troll and you are really some world renowned big game hunter. Because there is no damn way somebody can be this ignorant on a topic they claim to have been passionate for the last 40 years.

Well spring is in the air as cars are doing left turns at 200 mpg again at Daytona. Time to spend time drinking that in. And drinking other things.

 

[luthervol]

Other than the ban on "that type of weapon," these ideas have merit for discussion.

Thanks. I do believe that if rational people actually sat around a table and were able to negotiate and compromise some beneficial changes could be made.

 

[Vol8188]

Thanks. I do believe that if rational people actually sat around a table and were able to negotiate and compromise some beneficial changes could be made.

Guns aren’t the problem

 

[luthervol]

But


You


Still


Broke


the


Law.

This

has

always been

and will

always be

a

pointless

argument.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Thanks. I do believe that if rational people actually sat around a table and were able to negotiate and compromise some beneficial changes could be made.

How many fetuses is an acceptable number to be ripped out of a womb Loother?

 

[Squints]

How many is an acceptable number for planned parenthood to abort yearly?

Zero.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

This

has

always been

and will

always be

a

pointless

argument.

For you to argue against, yes.


If you really want to see meaningful change, you should be steadfast in seeing the so called “gun free zone” regulations are abolished. Write your local government thug and make it happen, Luther.

 

[luthervol]

Your party believes there’s no bioglical differences in the genders. Let’s drop the “pro science” routine.

That's flat at false. If you believe that is true, you're more gullible than I thought. If you know it's not true than I guess I'll take it as a bad attempt at humor.

 

[82_VOL_83]

What an absolute bore.

When have I ever tried to hide the fact that I was for increased gun control and regulation. Here's your answer, NEVER. It's the gun nuts that are having the internal struggle of trying to justify their petty protection of gun rights when 17 innocent people are bein mourned.

And you still did not address the simple fact that there are more dangerous things out there than guns when considering teen deaths.

You guys have the same effect on mourning these kids that D4H does on pulling for Josh Dobbs in the pros.