Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

So you admittedly have an agenda and your use of this incident is to push your agenda even though you admit ignorance of the very thing you are trying to get rid of.

Why is it guns? Are you gunophobic? Are you scared that an inanimate object is somehow going to harm you? Do you cower when you see someone carrying a concealed weapon?

Why aren't you pushing to ban something that kills a half million people a year? More teens than guns do? Why is it guns?

Nothing in this post makes any sense.
 
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You have to be joking. I didn't start this thread. I didn't make all 1700 posts. Why aren't you guys starting a thread and posting about all the double homicides with guns and knives? That beneath you? How many posts have you made in this thread?

A)I asked first.
B) you’re the one trying to convince me to give something up so the impetus is on you to push your case.
 
A)I asked first.
B) you’re the one trying to convince me to give something up so the impetus is on you to push your case.

I stated earlier I do not see any of you changing your positions. Charlton Heston was more prophetic than I realized at the time. The guns will be pulled out of your cold dead hands. Many died still arguing that the earth was flat.....but it's not and never was.
 
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Nothing in this post makes any sense.

VN, I submit to you the sounds of a dieing liberal argument. The unfortunate reality here is that there are more and more people in this country every day that are just as ignorant as this example. They tell conservatives that we don't accept homosexuality as normal because we are scared of homosexuals yet when that same argument is used on them, it doesn't make sense.

Here are some numbers off the top of my head.

Approximately 480,000 deaths per year related to tobacco in this country. Many teenagers start life long habits, some before the age of 16. Why that is illegal! And just think, simple nicotine tests in school could be used to stop kids from using tobacco before is legal!!!

88,000 deaths per year related to alcohol.... See above.

48% of teen deaths are from accidents.....36% in vehicles. I didn't dig far enough to get the stats on what percentage of those were related to alcohol or cellphone use while driving.

There is so much more to do that can save more lives yet they home in on guns.

Luther you are proof of the liberal agenda in this country and that you and your buddies really don't give a **** about those kids. You are just using them as political fodder. You are simply disgusting.
 
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I stated earlier I do not see any of you changing your positions. Charlton Heston was more prophetic than I realized at the time. The guns will be pulled out of your cold dead hands. Many died still arguing that the earth was flat.....but it's not and never was.

You’re finally right about something. I’ll be damned if I willingly agree to another weapon/accessory ban after the expiration of FAWB1994. Because it solved nothing. And you have zero other ideas than another ban.

So we’re done here! Sounds like a great time to call it a night!
 
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VN, I submit to you the sounds of a dieing liberal argument. The unfortunate reality here is that there are more and more people in this country every day that are just as ignorant as this example. They tell conservatives that we don't accept homosexuality as normal because we are scared of homosexuals yet when that same argument is used on them, it doesn't make sense.

Here are some numbers off the top of my head.

Approximately 480,000 deaths per year related to tobacco in this country. Many teenagers start life long habits, some before the age of 16. Why that is illegal! And just think, simple nicotine tests in school could be used to stop kids from using tobacco before is legal!!!

88,000 deaths per year related to alcohol.... See above.

48% of ten deaths are from accidents.....36% in vehicles. I didn't did far enough to get the start on what color percentage of those were related to alcohol or cellphone use while driving.

There is so much more to do that can save more lives yet they home in on guns.

Luther you are proof of the liberal agenda in this country and that you and your buddies really don't give a shot about those kids. You are just using them as political fodder. You are simply disgusting.
I'm not sure which is greater, the number of spelling and grammatical errors in your post or the number of logical fallacies.
 
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I'm not sure which is greater, the number of spelling and grammatical errors in your post or the number of logical fallacies.

Oh they were corrected before you made this post and you wouldn't know a logical fallacy from a Tapco lower. You have no argument here anymore. You've been shown to be a politically motivated hack. Either admit your political agenda or admit you are a troll.
 
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I'm not sure which is greater, the number of spelling and grammatical errors in your post or the number of logical fallacies.

Luther could you please take some time and go research the damn topic you’re trying to debate instead of just levying one ad hominem attack after another? Seriously. Add another damn play or two to the playbook.

Good night sweetie!!
 
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Luther could you please take some time and go research the damn topic you’re trying to debate instead of just levying one ad hominem attack after another? Seriously. Add another damn play or two to the playbook.

Good night sweetie!!

That had to hurt Luther.
 

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Nice....Dental floss should be illegal?

The basic intent of my line of questioning is this....

What is the most deadly weapon that should be legal and what is the least deadly weapon that should be illegal?

Or in an easier to understand format,,,Between which two weapons would you draw the line separating legal from illegal and why?
I was watching a movie with a friend that used to be a Navy Seal. There was a guy in the movie that got garroted.. you know, guy came up from behind and put a wire around his neck yada yada yada. I asked him if that is what the Seals used. he said naaaaah, too much noise. Aluminum baseball bat.

So ban aluminum bats. Deadly weapon if used by the right person.

Your questions are idiotic.
 
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I'm obviously guilty of not making my question clear.

Surely you do not believe everything less deadly than an atomic warhead should be legal to purchase.

What I'm looking for is between which two guns (or type of guns) do you believe the line of legality should be drawn and why?
You didn't say guns in your original question.
 
People are indeed the problem.

Gun purchase age of 21 would have prevented the massacre.

What if he decided to use Molotov Cocktails? Cheap instant bombs. Would that feel better to everyone that the kids were burned alive?

I think one only has to be 16 to pump gas...
 
God, Guns, and Gays.....the republican strategy for several decades. Genius in its simplicity. Repulsive in its effectiveness.

Our Republican President is the first President to support gay marriage while on the campaign trail. You can find videos of obama and Hillary both saying marriage is between a man and a woman.
 
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There are some truths that I (and millions of reasonable Americans) hold to be self evident.
We have a huge gun problem.

No, we have a people problem

We have to many guns in circulation.

That is an opinion, driven entirely by emotion.


Guns are to easy to purchase.

Again, agenda driven opinion

Guns cause way to much death and destruction.

More people are killed by cars and heart disease.


The pro gun side is unreasonable and many are borderline crazy.

And there it is. You have no logical argument, so you play the "crazy and unreasonable" card. You are an emotionally driven leftist.


Every time I allow myself to get sucked into one of these threads I become more disillusioned with my preferred paradigm that people are generally good and reasonable and desire what is best.

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:

Well done luther. well done.
 
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