Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

Andrew Kehoe owns the record for school fatalities, and has for over 90 years. Nobody else really close, with 44 dead and 58 injured. The record was set before AR-15's were even a thought in Eugene Stoner's mind. Where there's a will, there's a way.
 
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Andrew Kehoe owns the record for school fatalities, and has for over 90 years. Nobody else really close, with 44 dead and 58 injured. The record was set before AR-15's were even a thought in Eugene Stoner's mind. Where there's a will, there's a way.

The idea that school shooters will simply give up if they can’t find an ar is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard
 
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No truer words were ever spoken. Do me a favor. Go by the statue in OK City and hang your head as you offer an apologetic prayer.

You could not have proven the correctness of my last two comments any better had you tried. Thanks....I guess.

Please see a doctor.

This is what happens when the left say they want to have a discussion. As soon as they don't get their way in the discussion they move on to insults and try to make you fell bad.

Its never about the discussion, ever. Its always about taking rights away. That is always the end game for them. Always has been about control.
 
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The idea that school shooters will simply give up if they can’t find an ar is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard

No one's trying to have that argument numb nuts...and what's really ****ing curious is that after events like this people like you come out in droves just to argue semantics.
 
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lol..... I can't even get anyone on here to tell me where they personally would draw the line.

No one wants a debate. They just want to spout all kinds of meaningless gun "knowledge" and then act like my lack of knowledge excludes me form the debate.

Limit purchases to 3 per year.

Anything that can fire more than x rounds in y seconds is illegal.

Must be 21 years old to purchase.

Nothing that even looks like an assault weapon is legal.

Three month waiting period on the purchase of a handgun.

Mandatory reporting of lost or stolen guns within 48 hours. Failure to do so is a felony resulting in loss of right to own guns.

There are some truths that I (and millions of reasonable Americans) hold to be self evident.
We have a huge gun problem.
We have to many guns in circulation.
Guns are to easy to purchase.
Guns cause way to much death and destruction.
The pro gun side is unreasonable and many are borderline crazy.

Every time I allow myself to get sucked into one of these threads I become more disillusioned with my preferred paradigm that people are generally good and reasonable and desire what is best.

In top-down, bolded order:

Most “average” citizens are not purchasing 3 guns/year. Most have a collection that has been acquired over time, frequently over decades.

Semi-automatic firearms, ideally, handguns and some rifles/shotguns, will never be banned. Period. So, you’re good with the black market and criminals having leverage over everyone else to carry out crime, all because law abiding citizens are precluded from owning this class of weapon?

What about the AR-BB/pellet gun? That’s a very scary assault rifle. Birds scatter when they hear one report and feel the wind as a round passes by.
 
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You should. If you support banning something, you should atleast understand what it is you’re banning and have valid reasons

Criminalize semi-automatic rifles and high-capacity magazines and give people a window to turn theirs in for cash. Lord knows we can't be trusted to administer effective mental health screenings and background checks.
 
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No one's trying to have that argument numb nuts...and what's really ****ing curious is that after events like this people like you come out in droves just to argue semantics.

It’s actually been posted by one on here that I’ve seen. I second wouldn’t go that far but said “we can’t predict what the insane will do”. Which was basically saying “we should ban them and see if it helps”.
 
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What is your solution for stemming the bloodshed?

I’ve posted it previous in the school shooting thread. It’s too lengthy to repost, you’re welcome to find it there. I believe page 3. But it focuses on education. Create less losers by offering more options through a voucher system and allowing students who don’t want to be there to drop out easier.
 
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No one's trying to have that argument numb nuts...and what's really ****ing curious is that after events like this people like you come out in droves just to argue semantics.

Here’s two making that absurd argument.
 

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Criminalize semi-automatic rifles and high-capacity magazines and give people a window to turn theirs in for cash. Lord knows we can't be trusted to administer effective mental health screenings and background checks.

Sounds like you need a mental health screening.
 
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Any crime committed with or in the presence of a firearm = life in prison.

I was just thinking “we don’t have enough people in prison. How can we add more”

But if you think life in prison will deter people who know they’re very likely to either die in a fire fight, the electric chair, or who intend to take their own life at the end anyway....then you’re actually not thinking at all.
 
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...and of course you refuse to give those posts their proper context. You know full well they were advocating a ban on semi-automatic rifles.

Here’s the context. He’s responding to someone mentioning a ban on at 15s. And then he says it would’ve saved these people. Surely, you’re not also dumb enough to believe that?
 

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Yep. If he is driving down the interstate and it is obvious that one of his 500 lbs tires is not secured and about to fall off, he will be pulled over and cited (hopefully). If it's determined that the failure to secure the tires properly was willful negligence on his part, he should have his right to transport tires revoked.

Also, he will not be able to store those tires in a residential area in view. There are restrictions on how and where the tires can be stored.

So if it's accidental or one of his ratchet straps breaks he needs to be cited?
 
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