TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

[LouderVol]

They were foreign nationals in a "conspiracy" to influence the election. Conspiracy is the key word meaning it was organized.

you mean they didn't just get together and one day decide to do this for the lolz? huh, good thing Hilary never used bots.

and with this situation again its funny how we ignore the message they sent (Hillary did illegal stuff) but instead attack the messengers.

 

[Vol_Doc]

I'm not defending these guys but how is this illegal?

"The indictment says the defendants and their co-conspirators used fictitious online personas to interfere with the 2016 presidential election in the United States.

They are accused of spreading derogatory information about Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, denigrating Republican candidates Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio -- and supporting Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders and then-Republican candidate Donald Trump."

13 Russian nationals indicted for interfering in US elections

Yes.

Foreign nationals | FEC

 

[Orangeburst]

So, any organized activity is illegal? It's illegal to work together? Organizing to do something that isn't illegal is illegal?

The key word is "influence". What was the influence..ads or media and social stories? Big deal. We are constantly bombarded with propaganda by US entities.

 

[Mick]

you mean they didn't just get together and one day decide to do this for the lolz? huh, good thing Hilary never used bots.

and with this situation again its funny how we ignore the message they sent (Hillary did illegal stuff) but instead attack the messengers.

I think that Darkman may be one that is just doing it for the lol's but he could be the real deal.

 

[Vol0725]

Says the constant crying left for the past year, well actually always. Whine and throwing fits like children. Your side demand safe spaces..haha

Today's angry hysterical left, offer a glimpse into their plans for the future – blind opposition to the president and continued division for the country.

 

[Mick]

The key word is "influence". What was the influence..ads or media and social stories? Big deal. We are constantly bombarded with propaganda by US entities.

And you seem to believe them because you don't have the ability to distinguish between fact and fiction.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Yes.

Foreign nationals | FEC

I didn't see where that outlawed disseminating information. From what I can see, it dealt with contributions, volunteering, etc...

This smells like a big deflection to me.

 

[Orange_Crush]

The key word is "influence". What was the influence..ads or media and social stories? Big deal. We are constantly bombarded with propaganda by US entities.

Exactly.

Disseminating information... That's what I've seen and what I am respondent to. I've seen no statute making it unlawful for a foreigner to say, write, post something that shows a US political figure in a bad light, during election time or not.

 

[Orange_Crush]

And you seem to believe them because you don't have the ability to distinguish between fact and fiction.

Show your cards, Mr. "Facts".

 

[Mick]

I didn't see where that outlawed disseminating information. From what I can see, it dealt with contributions, volunteering, etc...

This smells like a big deflection to me.

Did you mean to say they instead of that? It makes it hard to read. No offense.

 

[Orangeburst]

Exactly.

Disseminating information... That's what I've seen and what I am respondent to. I've seen no statute making it unlawful for a foreigner to say, write, post something that shows a US political figure in a bad light, during election time or not.

Guess we will have to outlaw free speech for the legal and illegal immigrants in this country. They might say something to influence a citizen's election preference.

 

[Vol0725]

This Russian indictment is a roadmap into what really happened...all this being brought to light actually helps Trump, AND our country for more clarity.

No involvement or acknowledgement of this operation by any US persons in this indictment.

 

[Mick]

This indictment is a roadmap into what really happened...all this being brought to light actually helps Trump, AND our country for more clarity.

It's what congress should have done. Get this information out to the public to help us in the future.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Did you mean to say they instead of that? It makes it hard to read. No offense.

It was a reply to a quoted link, which was a FEC page. I meant "that", as in "that link", or even more specifically "that FEC page".

 

[Mick]

It was a reply to a quoted link, which was a FEC page. I meant "that", as in "that link", or even more specifically "that FEC page".

OK. That helps my understanding of your post. I had it wrong.

 

[Orangeburst]

This Russian indictment is a roadmap into what really happened...all this being brought to light actually helps Trump, AND our country for more clarity.

No involvement or acknowledgement of this operation by any US persons in this indictment.

I get it is the core of the investigation, and we will see. But why is it one-sided? What about the Clinton Foundation as it seems more sinister with direct monetary contributions and quid pro quo.

 

[Vol0725]

It's what congress should have done. Get this information out to the public to help us in the future.

Personally, they played Christopher Steele too with all the unverified dossier lies...and Russian's may even influenced CIA Brennan and his global intel ties who actually appears to have pushed the unverified Russia-Trump narrative to the FBI.

To bad Obama didn't take action against Russia sooner when he ignored it on multiple occasions.

 

[Vol0725]

I get it is the core of the investigation, and we will see. But why is it one-sided? What about the Clinton Foundation as it seems more sinister with direct monetary contributions and quid pro quo.

Humm. Interesting point. :hi:

 

[OuterBanksVol]

I'm one of the 13.

$$$

 

[Mick]

Personally, they played Christopher Steele too with all the unverified dossier lies...and Russian's may even influenced CIA Brennan and his global intel ties who actually appears to have pushed the unverified Russia-Trump narrative to the FBI.

To bad Obama didn't take action against Russia sooner when he ignored it on multiple occasions.

Obama couldn't really act on unverified information now could he?

 

[Vol8188]

I get it is the core of the investigation, and we will see. But why is it one-sided? What about the Clinton Foundation as it seems more sinister with direct monetary contributions and quid pro quo.

Russian banks gave Bill Clinton money directly, as well.

This is all because the left can’t handle that they lost to an Orange crazy man. So they just have to make up absurd conspiracy theories

 

[Mick]

I'm one of the 13.

$$$

See you around the Deep State Department comrade. :hi:

 

[Orange_Crush]

OK. That helps my understanding of your post. I had it wrong.

De nada, amigo.

 

[Vol0725]

Obama couldn't really act on unverified information now could he?

Oh ok

The answer is that Obama spent the first six years of his presidency turning a blind eye to Russian aggression. In his first term, Obama pursued a policy of "reset" with Moscow, even though he took office only five months after Russia had occupied two Georgian provinces in the summer of 2008. In the 2012 election, Obama mocked his Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, for saying Russia posed a significant threat to U.S. interests. Throughout his presidency, Obama's administration failed to respond to Russian cheating on arms-control agreements. His diplomacy to reach an agreement to temporarily suspend progress on Iran's nuclear program made the U.S. reliant on Russian cooperation for Obama's signature foreign policy achievement.

Obama Choked on Russia Long Before the 2016 Election - Bloomberg

 

[Mick]

Oh ok

The answer is that Obama spent the first six years of his presidency turning a blind eye to Russian aggression. In his first term, Obama pursued a policy of "reset" with Moscow, even though he took office only five months after Russia had occupied two Georgian provinces in the summer of 2008. In the 2012 election, Obama mocked his Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, for saying Russia posed a significant threat to U.S. interests. Throughout his presidency, Obama's administration failed to respond to Russian cheating on arms-control agreements. His diplomacy to reach an agreement to temporarily suspend progress on Iran's nuclear program made the U.S. reliant on Russian cooperation for Obama's signature foreign policy achievement.

Good for him. Does Iran have nukes? Didn't think so. Israel thanks you.