Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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Squints said:
There you go, being a damn liberal. I did not make those dots, and you shouldn’t have assumed that connection. That’s where you’re flat ass wrong. My comment was merely intended to show that polls are incorrect at times. Furthermore, a poll like that, and at a time like this, is inherently skewed, if even legitimately conducted. I’m dubious of any poll released directly after an event the poll concerns, regardless of the subject.

For instance, in 2013, droves of Vols thought BJ was Neyland incarnate. Ask the same ones how they felt after the FL game this past year, and the responses would have been night and day.

You’re using a logical fallacy to justify your position. I posed this to you in my comment (#559) that you’ve yet to answer. Anyone intent on inflicting carnage through atrocities will find a way to commit these heinous acts, no matter how much you censor their right to bear arms (e.g. black market, alternate attacks, etc.). If you can’t reconcile that, then I hope the US has 5 guns to every one person. Nothing like pissing one of you off....
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I stand corrected. Your initial point was pointless. Kudos on making the distinction.

Secondly, your point about the timing of the polls is irrelevant because, as I've already stated, the polls I was speaking of were not given in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy.

Lastly, your final point contains an illogical assumption. Namely, that everyone prohibited from buying a gun will find an alternate manner in which to inflict the same damage.

Carry on.
 
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Grand Vol said:
There is a duality with firearms. They are designed to kill.

But they are also designed to protect.

In the wrong hands, it's used to murder.

In the right hands it's used to save a life.

Funny how that works.
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I have several, never worry about the magically loading themselves in the middle of the night and taking me out, aside from my AK (I suspect he is a Russian mole). They simply are tools, same as cars and other objects.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I stand corrected. Your initial point was pointless. Kudos on making the distinction.

Secondly, your point about the timing of the polls is irrelevant because, as I've already stated, the polls I was speaking of were not given in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy.

Lastly, your final point contains an illogical assumption. Namely, that everyone prohibited from buying a gun will find an alternate manner in which to inflict the same damage.

Carry on.
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As of late, it's hard to distinguish between "tragedies" since they have happened a little more frequently.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
At the end of the day it’s all about money. They don’t care who buys guns as long as it’s benefitting their bank accounts. Nobody needs ARs or any other guns within that loop. Before the car argument is brought up my car wasn’t created to kill things. The sole purpose of guns is to kill
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I am not going to kill you with mine......unless you are harming my family and shooting you in the shoulder does not stop you......
 
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Grand Vol said:
Three things.

I'm not a nut job.

Mag restrictions won't be effective at this point since they went into mass production mode after both the sunset of the AWB and Sandy Hook. We're talking probably hundreds of millions of them in circulation. There is no good option on limiting them save an outright ban. And you run into all sorts of legal and financial issues with that one.

I don't think anyone has or will argue against the crazy people being denied access to firearms. My argument, as it very well should be your argument as well given your profession, is how it's determined they are crazy. And furthermore, how to get around laws already on the books about health care information reporting. Such things are confidential per the HIPAA laws and would have to be modified prior to anything like a national registry of crazy folks goes into effect. NOBODY has addressed that even though I keep bringing it up.
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You don't have to rewrite hipaa. You simply waive it for the purposes of applying for gun ownership. I agree there needs to be standards and the ability to appeal decisions.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You don't have to rewrite hipaa. You simply waive it for the purposes of applying for gun ownership. I agree there needs to be standards and the ability to appeal decisions.
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Now see, this is logical.

Reasonable.

Add this box to the 4473 ASAP. "I waive my rights to have my mental health status reportable in NICS if it is determined I might be a threat to myself or others."
 
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I'm not going to read all through the topic but local law enforcement is now saying they don't see any links between the shooter and that white nationalist militia group.
 
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Burhead said:
I'm not going to read all through the topic but local law enforcement is now saying they don't see any links between the shooter and that white nationalist militia group.
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Probably the White nationalist group trying to get some national attention. Scumbags will be scumbags.
 
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One thing I'm curious about that hasn't been addressed. Where'd he get the money to buy the thing? Most 19 year old kids I know couldn't get out of sight if it took a nickle to go around the world.
 
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tumscalcium said:
You car was made to kill. It’s 2 tons, designed to go over 100 mph and you can aim in in any direction.

You decide to use yours to take you places.

In fact, cars have killed significantly more people as of late.
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I like B4H, but I think that a young male behind the wheel of a 600-700 horsepower car represents a bigger threat to society than my guns.
 
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tumscalcium said:
You car was made to kill. It’s 2 tons, designed to go over 100 mph and you can aim in in any direction.

You decide to use yours to take you places.

In fact, cars have killed significantly more people as of late.
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I doubt at the Chevy plant they were trying to think of a body design and speed capability that would be fit for killing. Guns however are made specifically to kill things
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
Are you really this shallow? You don’t think guns are machines made to kill things? I guess my car isn’t something made to take me places then
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Well if you want to get real real a gun is a machine designed to fire a projectile. There are many guns that have done nothing more than punch holes in paper or bust clay pigeons.
 
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luthervol said:
Many would same the same of assault weapons.

But the right wing nut answer to your question would be "It doesn't matter, what right do you have to say what I can have?"
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You are right. I don't know anyone that wants an assault weapon. I really do enjoy shooting my AR15 though.

Of course putting a semi automatic rifle on the same plane with sarin gas is the same as saying the Vols should schedule the Patriots every year.

You really are looney tunes sometimes.
 
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Grand Vol said:
There is a duality with firearms. They are designed to kill.

But they are also designed to protect.

In the wrong hands, it's used to murder.

In the right hands it's used to save a life.

Funny how that works.
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Bump for B4H

(Almost typed in D4H which might have started a fight)
 
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