Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

I read a study from 2015 that over 80% of firearms used in mass shootings were purchased legally. Theres the realy issue. You guys can make it about politics all you want, but until we find a way to prevent crazy people from buying guns, this will not change. We will have more mass shootings. Its not going to stop.

Okay, again, what mechanics need to be in place to identify said mentally unstable person(s), what measures can be taken that this is public knowledge without violating the HIPAA laws and lastly, what measures are going to be available for a person to appeal the decision if/when the problem is corrected?
 
I would concede to more gun regulations if the left will concede to standardized testing to vote..

Reading comprehension, math and spelling for starters.
Let’s thtow in state issued ID as well.

It's like a whole bunch of stupid solutions rolled into a nice, fat idiot joint.
 
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I bet over 80% of cars are purchased by sober drivers. What someone does with something after you sell it to them is in their hands. How do you legislate future actions outside of a precrime division?

Are cars designed to kill people? What % or peoplr who die in car accidents arent wearing their seatbelts? Cars have safety features toprevent loss of life. Guns have 1 feature - kill.
 
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It does seem obvious to anyone with IQ higher than a paper bag that more guns = more shootings.

More cars = more wrecks

More unhealthy foods = more cases of diabetes/heart disease/cancer

More money = more wealth

More of anything inherently means more, or less, of something else. Stupid argument.

This would have an impact, though:

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It does seem obvious to anyone with IQ higher than a paper bag that more guns = more shootings.

You realize that it used to be MUCH easier to get guns than it is today? You could buy them out of a barrel at the hardware store and there was no background check. You could mail in for one and it came to your door. America was awash with surplus military firearms after WWII and Korea, nevermind billions of rounds of ammunition. Way more people hunted or shot for sport than they do today. There used to be a goverment program that taught people how to shoot. All of that is either gone or greatly diminished, yet these shootings have increased dramatically. So what do the guns have to do with it?
 
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I have a sincere question that is bugging me. Out of all these school related shootings, why is the one at sandy hook the only one where they tore the school down after it happened? I’m nit crying conspiracy, but why not bulldoze them all? I know there was some fishy stuff around that one, but I still am not crying conspiracy. I just figured maybe one of you could sincerely explain it.

They tore that church in Texas down also, but I wonder also
 
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It doesn't have to be when public safety is at stake. If a person has ever been involuntarily institutionalized for mental illness, they should not legally be allowed to purchase or possess a firearm.

I can categorically state it is illegal for anyone

"adjudicated as as a mental defective" or "ever been committed to a mental institution"

to legally purchase a firearm from an FFL per ATF Form 4473. For state rundowns:

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-...session-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
 
Are cars designed to kill people? What % or peoplr who die in car accidents arent wearing their seatbelts? Cars have safety features toprevent loss of life. Guns have 1 feature - kill.

That wasn’t the point junior.

How many knife sets have been bought by happy couples only to be used to murder a spouse?

How much antifreeze has been bought to fill an engine that was used later to poison someone?

Lots of things are acquired when people are of sound mind, only later to be used to cause harm. How do you decide who can or can’t buy something based on what they may or may not do with it later?

As for guns only killing, I've yet to see anyone carted off from the biathlon competition for gunshot wounds, but I’ve seen plenty of people hauled off from snowboarding and downhill skiing. Maybe the guns are faulty.
 
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I read a study from 2015 that over 80% of firearms used in mass shootings were purchased legally. Theres the realy issue. You guys can make it about politics all you want, but until we find a way to prevent crazy people from buying guns, this will not change. We will have more mass shootings. Its not going to stop.

There is an issue.

WND also reported that nearly every mass shooter in recent decades used mind-altering drugs prior to or during their acts of violence — a trend that CCHR has been tracking and documenting, especially since the Columbine high school shooting in 1999 when an antidepressant was implicated in the mass killing.

Another Mass Shooting Potentially Linked to Psychiatric Drugs | Markets Insider
 
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The funny thing is LG would be the first to sue if they did report it.

I'm waiting for a response. Not holding my breath though.

People want to get on here and run their mouths about "doing SOMETHING!" But when those of us on the pro-2A side of the house actually agree and ask questions about specifics, we get zero answers. Instead they turn to insults and how "unreasonable" we are. Which doesn't help their stance.

I'd imagine they didn't think it all the way through. But they'll screech to do SOMETHING even if they didn't manage to put any thoughts past the first step.
 
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I read a study from 2015 that over 80% of firearms used in mass shootings were purchased legally. Theres the realy issue. You guys can make it about politics all you want, but until we find a way to prevent crazy people from buying guns, this will not change. We will have more mass shootings. Its not going to stop.

How do we define crazy?

I think my girlfriend is batS!!! crazy because she says towels have to be folded a certain way..my towels..in my house..that is insane. Is that crazy enough to warrant not buying a gun?
 
You realize that it used to be MUCH easier to get guns than it is today? You could buy them out of a barrel at the hardware store and there was no background check. You could mail in for one and it came to your door. America was awash with surplus military firearms after WWII and Korea, nevermind billions of rounds of ammunition. Way more people hunted or shot for sport than they do today. There used to be a goverment program that taught people how to shoot. All of that is either gone or greatly diminished, yet these shootings have increased dramatically. So what do the guns have to do with it?

114 called me an idiot because I pointed this out.
 
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How do we define crazy?

I think my girlfriend is batS!!! crazy because she says towels have to be folded a certain way..my towels..in my house..that is insane. Is that crazy enough to warrant not buying a gun?

As long as they aren't a hairdresser, redhead or named Tiffany, we should be safe at their socially acceptable crazy level.
 
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I do think there is something to be said about this. More and more you have people interacting in society that before would be receiving psychiatric help, possibly in a facility. And in order to do so they must take these drugs to alter their mind. So what happens when they stop taking them, or these lose their efficacy? It’s like walking a tiger in a park, but it’s ok because he has a muzzle. What happens when the muzzle falls off?
 
I'm waiting for a response. Not holding my breath though.

People want to get on here and run their mouths about "doing SOMETHING!" But when those of us on the pro-2A side of the house actually agree and ask questions about specifics, we get zero answers. Instead they turn to insults and how "unreasonable" we are. Which doesn't help their stance.

I'd imagine they didn't think it all the way through. But they'll screech to do SOMETHING even if they didn't manage to put any thoughts past the first step.

Broadly speaking, my proposal would be as follows:

1) When any school counselor, principal, teacher, or other officer of local government determines that in his or her view a student, former student, or person associated with them represents a threat, based on words or actions, then that official may report that person to the FBI.

2) The FBI shall place that person on a list whereby they cannot purchase a firearm or ammunition until removed from the list.

3) The person gets notice they are on the list and how to clear from it in a process that lasts no longer than 90 days.

4) If a person is denied removal, they can reapply to be off the list within 6 months and can renew each 6 months until off the list.

5) Upon listing a person as above, the FBI shall check all databases to see if the person listed has purchased any guns. If so, the FBI sends someone to interview them within 7 days. If the person is deemed a threat by the interviewer and still possesses a firearm, the FBI can seize the firearm and house it and step 3 is applied, i..e they can apply to be off the lit and get it back within 90 days.

6) All persons involved in this process are immune from suit unless they act in bad faith or with malice toward the person on the list.



Something like this balances the person's right to have a firearm against the situation in which there is a relatively acute concern that the person is a threat. Worst case scenario, someone wrongfully on the list or with a gun seized has a mechanism to get it back within 90 days. The other thing it does is identify risks and gets them "in the system." There is value to that, as well, because it makes upticks in any threat level more apparent as they are on the radar, so to speak.
 
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Psychologists are NOT medical professionals.

I think of psychology as a copout degree, like the kid who got a gimme degree so that he’d be written in on his dad’s will and be given stake in the family business. Same goes for PhDs, only they sit in a comfortable chair and use the Dr. Phil approach.

No one needs a definition thrown at them, they need professional, medical intervention.
 
'Typical' facts w/ school shootings

1. Guns come from the home.

2. They tell at least 1 person, usually students...they encourage them to do it, without telling anyone, because they did not take them seriously.

3. They are victims of severe bullying.

Listen:

February 15, 2018: Ep. 656 What Can be Done to Fix This? – Dan Bongino

Please read this Secret Service report on targeted school violence and some of the warning signs.

https://www.secretservice.gov/data/protection/ntac/ssi_guide.pdf
 
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