Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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#626
I wish the right leaning folks on here would not get caught up in the gun control debate, please just ignore these far left lunatics. Their playbook says never let a good crisis go to waste. Please dont take the bait
 
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It did not attract a ton of attention at the time (nothing does these days) but about a year ago on February 28, 2017, Congress passed and Donald Trump signed a law revoking an Obama-era regulatory initiative that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy a gun.
But it’s Trump’s party — and Trump himself — who have consistently prevented the federal government from doing anything about this kind of situation. The Obama-era gun regulation wouldn’t have had a massive impact on gun violence in the US since it’s estimated that it would only affect about 75,000 people. And disability rights groups had their own objections to the bill so some liberal groups, including the ACLU, joined with the National Rifle Association in urging Trump to reverse it.

But anything that makes it easier to obtain a gun, the research suggests, will likely worsen gun violence. After all, America already has some of the weakest gun laws in the developed world — and repealing a rule that made it a little tougher for some people to buy a gun likely makes that worse.
 
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Just last week, the Judiciary Committee of the Florida House of Representatives passed on a 14-6 vote something called HB-39, a bill affirming that a person who is licensed to carry a concealed weapon “does not violate the law if the firearm is temporarily and openly displayed.” That’s according to the Tallahassee Democrat, which tells us that NB-39 is one of 11 gun-related bills on the 2018 calendar.

According to the NRA, the bill’s purpose is “to stop the abuse of law-abiding citizens” whose legal guns aren’t properly concealed. Apparently, there’s an epidemic of such “abuse” afoot in the Sunshine State.

The NRA’s news item about the bill goes on to report: “Every time a law-abiding person—licensed by the state to carry for protection leaves his or her home, legally carrying a firearm—EVERYTIME—they run the risk of that firearm becoming exposed to the sight of another person and then being treated like a criminal.”

In probably three-quarters of the 50 states, this work grinds on week after grim week—the NRA declaring its ownership of Republican state legislators, and them passing laws made to order. Some of the 11 bills being considered in Tallahassee are being put forward by Democrats, in the forlorn hope of bringing some sanity to the gun debate. Linda Stewart, D-Orlando, wants to prohibit the sale and transfer of assault weapons, specifically including the AR-15 used by Nick Cruz in Parkland.

But Republicans run the state House of Representatives by 76-41, and they control the State Senate by 23-15. So Stewart’s bill probably doesn’t stand a chance. In contrast, State Senator Greg Steube, R-Sarasota, who chairs the committee that handles most gun legislation, has filed five bills to make it easier to buy a gun. A year ago, after a shooting at the Ft. Lauderdale-Hollywood airport left five dead and eight wounded, Steube reaffirmed his support for a bill allowing Floridians to carry guns in airports. Because of course—if some passengers had been armed, that would have fixed everything!
 
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#639
Strange times these are.

I had a reasonable back and forth with LG this morning.

I support Mick's call to limit clips to eight rounds.

And I liked a Tweet from Lane Kiffin.

[twitter]964147945217187841[/twitter]
 
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#640
I have a sincere question that is bugging me. Out of all these school related shootings, why is the one at sandy hook the only one where they tore the school down after it happened? I’m nit crying conspiracy, but why not bulldoze them all? I know there was some fishy stuff around that one, but I still am not crying conspiracy. I just figured maybe one of you could sincerely explain it.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Strange times these are.

I had a reasonable back and forth with LG this morning.

I support Mick's call to limit clips to eight rounds.

And I liked a Tweet from Lane Kiffin.

[twitter]964147945217187841[/twitter]
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Make sure you wash your hands.
 
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Obsessed said:
Thank you for helping me prove my point.


It’s all political quid pro quo...
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It doesn't have to be when public safety is at stake. If a person has ever been involuntarily institutionalized for mental illness, they should not legally be allowed to purchase or possess a firearm.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It doesn't have to be when public safety is at stake. If a person has ever been involuntarily institutionalized for mental illness, they should not legally be allowed to purchase or possess a firearm.
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Okay. Agreed.

Now, how are they going to make that NICS reportable with the current HIPAA laws?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It doesn't have to be when public safety is at stake. If a person has ever been involuntarily institutionalized for mental illness, they should not legally be allowed to purchase or possess a firearm.
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This is reasonable. Mental illness doesn't just magically go away. Remission and relapse is likely.
 
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#646
I read a study from 2015 that over 80% of firearms used in mass shootings were purchased legally. Theres the realy issue. You guys can make it about politics all you want, but until we find a way to prevent crazy people from buying guns, this will not change. We will have more mass shootings. Its not going to stop.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I read a study from 2015 that over 80% of firearms used in mass shootings were purchased legally. Theres the realy issue. You guys can make it about politics all you want, but until we find a way to prevent crazy people from buying guns, this will not change. We will have more mass shootings. Its not going to stop.
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I bet over 80% of cars are purchased by sober drivers. What someone does with something after you sell it to them is in their hands. How do you legislate future actions outside of a precrime division?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I love this argument: Because stricter gun control will not stop EVERY unlawful or mass shooting, we shouldn't bother to try to stop ANY unlawful or mass shooting.
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He leaves his doors unlocked because, you know, they don't work.
 
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