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Maybe the taxpayers won't pay $500 this week for a hammer

I've ordered and companies have paid for $500 hammers. They really do exist, but those hammers came with load cells and signal conditioners. They have a purpose in structural analysis when models don't pan out and things break.

You hit a structure at specific points and measure and analyze the vibratory response with instrumentation costing more well more than the hammer and you find how the structure really responds - not how a computer analysis thought it should. Hammers of a few ounces work on small assemblies like pump impellers or turbine blades and the sledgehammers work on the big stuff. But, you know, in the end it's a lot cheaper than a few airplane loads of passengers coming apart in midair or a major failure of a bridge or component in a nuclear power plant.

The writers of those stories generally love their sensationalism over fact. The real waste in government is in empire building - empires of thousands to manage the unnecessary and over manage the useful.
 
You all have changed so much over time that you proudly wear pu**y hats and have no idea what a man or woman is.

Modern liberals aren’t anything to be proud of. Lol

The extremes have always been extreme (by definition) and that's true of both sides. I'll take the extreme left over the extreme right all day, every day.
 
The extremes have always been extreme (by definition) and that's true of both sides. I'll take the extreme left over the extreme right all day, every day.

We know you would. By definition, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Zedong, Castro, and others, are staunch leftists. You keep great company.
 
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Spoken like a good ole yahoo who wouldn't utter this from anywhere but behind his keyboard.

Why don't you try to debate in context like an intelligent adult instead of posting like a redneck punk.

Don’t get mad at me for the stupid crap you support.

Now go defend all the ze’s, zir’s and zit’s! Keep up the good fight! You might be more of an embarrassment for your family than Luther is for his. Lulz
 
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How do you know what I support? Generalizing again?

Like I said, a redneck punk like you wouldn't utter the same words from anywhere but behind your keyboard. Let me know and I can show you how to be a better patriot. I've been helping idiots like you my whole life. I don't discriminate just because you're a dumbarse

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We know you would. By definition, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Zedong, Castro, and others, are staunch leftist. You keep great company.

You can add Christ, Gandhi, MLK, Buddha, Confucius, Socrates, and others to your list. And thanks, I do.
 
They would? If that's the case, why couldn't Jim Webb make it to the Iowa caucuses? He's a pre-great society democrat like Truman and Kennedy. Poor guy never had a chance despite the fact that he was by far the best general election candidate for the Democrats.

Funny thing is that Jim Webb is pretty much the only potential presidential candidate - Rep or Dim - that I'd vote for. My votes for years have been against the other candidate (and invariably anti Dim).
 
I'll freely admit I am disgusted at the direction of the Democratic party. You're absolutely right about Webb. Of course the same thing can be said of Republicans too. Trump ran on some far right promises that impressed the wingnuts but made the moderates cringe. What YOU need to understand is that this country, as a matter of history, has been more successful when polices and legislation are balanced.....center right to center left. Moderation works the best and has been proven so over and over again

Yes and no. Things work smoother when the two sides are less polarized.

However, when the spirit of compromise just means tit for tat rather than hard decisions, we wind up with more government than we can afford. Differing opinions mean selection and reasonable choice - not you get yours and I get mine. Considering government debt, I'd say we've been over moderated and under analyzed.
 
Yes and no. Things work smoother when the two sides are less polarized.

However, when the spirit of compromise just means tit for tat rather than hard decisions, we wind up with more government than we can afford. Differing opinions mean selection and reasonable choice - not you get yours and I get mine. Considering government debt, I'd say we've been over moderated and under analyzed.

Agree. I call it selective balance. We saw it in the 80s and the 90s. Not so much since the 2000 Presidential election
 
That is true. And the center continually shifts left over time. It's like two groups in a row boat rowing in opposite directions. One group gains ground and then tires and the other group makes up ground. All the while, the boat is being pushed by the current, which always flows left.

Complete garbage to insinuate that all progress is automatically to the left. Progress isn't left or right; it's just progress.
 
Complete garbage to insinuate that all progress is automatically to the left. Progress isn't left or right; it's just progress.

Does that mean that the term progressive should no longer be used as a pejorative?
 
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Complete garbage to insinuate that all progress is automatically to the left. Progress isn't left or right; it's just progress.

Equality of the sexes. Equality of the races. Usually initially seen as left wing radical.
 
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Equality of the sexes. Equality of the races. Usually initially seen as left wing radical.

Not races, ideological actions that generally stem from religious beliefs. Herein lies your movement to hastily scream - racist. Until you and your ilk change course, you will continue to lose elections, while crying and asking yourselves, "WTF happened?"

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......and that attitude is part of the reason why you got beat last time.


The reasons, in order of impact:

1) Dems ran a bad candidate.
2) The party in the WH usually loses it after second term.
3) Underestimating motivation of white, uneducated, monoskilled Americans.
4) Russian interference.




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75. Dem arrogance at # 3.
 
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Equality of the sexes. Equality of the races. Usually initially seen as left wing radical.

Everything is radical until it gets accepted by a majority. I can think of plenty of things that have come from both sides that have proven both positive and negative.
 

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