The shut down thread

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Biopsyman said:
This is nothing but a dog and pony show the government has been Shut down for years if not decades due to its lack of funding The government borrows money on a daily basis to remain open primarily from China
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I believe it is over spending, not "lack of funding."
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Absolutely sick and f'ing tired of the party that is not getting their way pulling this crap. I said it when Republicans were doing it and I will say it now that Democrats are being obstructionists. These stupid prick politicians need to work together. Neither side is completely wrong or completely right and there is common ground. And if you're a minority politician you've got to give more.


How many of you on either side of the issue will be consistent? Or is this just one of those issues that brings out the hypocrisy in most people?
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Yep. If you think politicians actually care about doing the people's business, you're naive. It's well known that they spend most of their time angling for re-election. Maneuvers like this happen on both sides and are designed to paint the other in a bad light in order to secure future votes. Our whole system is corrupt.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
Yep. If you think politicians actually care about doing the people's business, you're naive. It's well known that they spend most of their time angling for re-election. Maneuvers like this happen on both sides and are designed to paint the other in a bad light in order to secure future votes. Our whole system is corrupt.
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Gave you a like......well said.
 
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There is basically one thing the GOP needs to do to avoid a government shutdown tonight when the temporary funding bill is set to expire: Offer a clean path to permanent legalization for Dreamers—individuals who have grown up as Americans even though they were brought to this country as minors illegally—and make them off-limits to this administration's deportation designs.

But that seems beyond the party's capacity.

The House just passed a stopgap funding bill that does nothing about Dreamers but it does extend CHIP, a health insurance program for children that Republicans have never liked, demonstrating that the only principle that animates their party in the Age of Trump is saving this land of immigrants from immigrants.

The ball now is in the Senate's court where the GOP Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky will have to try and scrap together 60 votes to pass the bill and avoid a government shutdown. That's going to be a hard sell for what the House just passed given that many of the reluctant lawmakers who went along with the December stopgap bill did so with the aim of not disturbing their Christmas break and attaching an acceptable alternative to DACA in this round.

DACA or Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals is an Obama-era program that handed a two-year (renewable) reprieve from deportation to about 690,000 Dreamers. But President Trump scrapped the program in September. And now if Congress does not legalize these folks by March, when the DACA phase out is set to begin, many of them will be up for deportation to countries where they practically know no one, leaving their lives and loved ones in America.

Clear majorities of Americans don't want that this to happen. Indeed, according to a poll by Fox News, an outfit no one would accuse of having any love lost for immigrants, 86 percent of Americans favor permanent legal status for Dreamers and 79 percent a path to citizenship. And clear majorities in both houses of Congress want the same thing. Indeed, as I wrote in December, 232 Congressmen and 55 Senators are prepared to vote for a clean Dreamer fix with no further changes to the immigration system.
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Republicans Are Preparing to Shut Down the Government Out of Anti-Immigrant Spite - Hit & Run : Reason.com
 
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Biopsyman said:
I am so sick and tired of hearing about the dreamers!!! The legal parents of kids that were born in this country dream about their kids succeeding as well.. It’s like we reward people who break the law and could give it a shat less about those who follow it
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I have been seeing some stories about the dreamers that are in their 20s and 30s. TO them I say go take the ****ing citizenship test and become citizens. Good Lord, enough already.


Offer amnesty to them if they take the test within 6 months. If not.. buh bye.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I have been seeing some stories about the dreamers that are in their 20s and 30s. TO them I say go take the ****ing citizenship test and become citizens. Good Lord, enough already.


Offer amnesty to them if they take the test within 6 months. If not.. buh bye.
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It’s not really about the people that are here it’s about all of the other people that are trying to break in illegally.. break chain migration and a lottery system
 
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The good ole 'Schumer Shutdown' tactic


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Biopsyman said:
It’s funny how the media makes this a crisis
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It's just as sad that people continue to allow themselves to be affected by a manufactured crisis.

Burn it down. Govt employees should know what it feels like to worry a little bit...

It is however, disgusting that these bozos in Washington are using "the military" as a sympathy pawn in partisan war of blame.
 
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Biopsyman said:
The Democrats are putting 700,000 iDACA Illegals ahead of the American people.... A new level of stupidity
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Exactly...make government workers work without a paycheck...DACA shouldn't even be a discussion today.

The Democrats are going to shut the government down because of 800,000 illegal aliens. Have they ever proposed to shutting the government down to protest on behalf of American workers?

The GOP bill stinks, don't get me wrong...but this is a typical libtard obstructionist stance
 
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I loved watching Mick Mulvaney smack around Jim Acosta. If you don’t have a basic understanding of civics, should you be a chief White House correspondent for a major cable network?
 
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Vol0725 said:
Exactly...make government workers work without a paycheck...DACA shouldn't even be a discussion today.

The Democrats are going to shut the government down because of 800,000 illegal aliens. Have they ever proposed to shutting the government down to protest on behalf of American workers?

The GOP bill stinks, don't get me wrong...but this is a typical libtard obstructionist stance
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And with that your ignorance is exposed - this sht isn't a republican or democrat problem it's a leadership problem.

A clean DACA bill was requested and rejected, instead it's being used as leverage for a $18bd fence. Please stop feigning that only one side isn't fiscally conservative. Both sides are equally shtty and complicit.
 
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There's enough blame to go around and it looks like right now both sides are feverishly passing it off on the other rather than doing it's job.

It's quite the show.
 
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Septic said:
And with that your ignorance is exposed - this sht isn't a republican or democrat problem it's a leadership problem.

A clean DACA bill was requested and rejected, instead it's being used as leverage for a $18bd fence. Please stop feigning that only one side isn't fiscally conservative. Both sides are equally shtty and complicit.
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You must be back on your ginko biloba; your brain is functioning again.
 
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Trump in 2013: "The president ultimately gets the blame for a shutdown"

Donald Trump, speaking with Fox News back in 2013 as Washington headed for a shutdown under President Obama, said that in the president ultimately gets the blame.

"The president, in all fairness, he's the leader, he's the one that has to get everybody in the room and get it done," then-businessman Trump said. "So he does have a lot of pressure to get this problem solved. He's got a big problem."
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Trump in 2013: "The president ultimately gets the blame for a shutdown"

Donald Trump, speaking with Fox News back in 2013 as Washington headed for a shutdown under President Obama, said that in the president ultimately gets the blame.

"The president, in all fairness, he's the leader, he's the one that has to get everybody in the room and get it done," then-businessman Trump said. "So he does have a lot of pressure to get this problem solved. He's got a big problem."
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Correct.
 
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