The Official 2nd Amendment Appreciation Thread

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Don't ask how, but a funny thought just hit me...

Back in WW2, Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto was quoted as saying that Japan could never invade the mainland United States, because "there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

And while there are different schools of thought on it, I am of the mind that the framers of the Constitution wrote the Second Amendment with the idea that an armed citizenry would be less likely to be ignored and/or mistreated by their government. When only one side has guns, that side writes the rules.....

So back to Admiral Yamamoto. I was leafing through the posts on this thread...and after reading about all of the crime in places like Jax, Atlanta, and pick any big city near you...I just smiled and thought "I can't wait for the day some idiot busts through the front door of one of the houses of these good folks here. Blades of grass indeed."

I have no problem with gun control. In fact, we have a strict gun control policy at our house. There are several guns here, and we control all of them.

Yamamoto got it. So did the Founding Fathers. So do most of you. At VN, there's a rifle (sometimes several of them, and pistols and shotguns too) behind every avatar.

I think I've found my Safe Place.....
 
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Went on a Walther buying spree today. Got the PPS M2 LE - not as comfy as my old CCP but it actually works so it has that going for it.

The prize though is the Q5 Match - went ahead and added the Leupold Delta Point Pro to it. Looks like Batman's gun and has that sweet PPQ trigger and ergos.

stock photo

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old weapon; with an old man nearing 70 doing the shooting,made a great shot last night all the way across the den.must have died from shock there was no blood
 
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Alright, GV...need your opinion here.

So you know I have a Glock 30S. This has become my default CC weapon (can't hide the Springfield), although I do carry the RIA compact here and there thanks to it's very light trigger and...you know me...I love that 1911 frame.

But after my experience with the SSA-e trigger on my AR, I have decided to lighten the trigger on my Glock. The ZEV looks like a good one.

Your thoughts?
 
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I can’t help you on the trigger question but I wanted to ask you about the RIA 1911. I’m looking at getting one. What model do you have and how do you like it vs Springfield 1911 etc
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Alright, GV...need your opinion here.

So you know I have a Glock 30S. This has become my default CC weapon (can't hide the Springfield), although I do carry the RIA compact here and there thanks to it's very light trigger and...you know me...I love that 1911 frame.

But after my experience with the SSA-e trigger on my AR, I have decided to lighten the trigger on my Glock. The ZEV looks like a good one.

Your thoughts?
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What little I know about Glock aftermarket parts would astound you.

Can't really help you.
 
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bigdaddy said:
I can’t help you on the trigger question but I wanted to ask you about the RIA 1911. I’m looking at getting one. What model do you have and how do you like it vs Springfield 1911 etc
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Sorry for the delayed response. I usually only stop by here to ask GV a question.


So...the Rock Island compact 1911. I absolutely love mine. Looking at the website, mine would be the GI Standard CS .45, Model #51416. I've had mine since 2008-ish, and it looks like they've changed a few minor details, but it's the same gun.


Pros: It's a 1911. 7 rounds; standard 1911 safeties; easy to shoot; plenty accurate enough for close-in work; and it's a .45. The website says it has a 4-6 lb trigger, but there's no way mine is that heavy. I'd guess 3-4 lbs, and I bought mine new in the box. I'll say this: I shoot this gun better than my duty Glock or backup Glock, and I attribute part of that to the light trigger.


Cons: It's a heavy chunk of metal to walk around all day with one of these tucked IWB, but that weight absorbs recoil, and makes follow-up shots easier. Then there's the sights, which are standard 1911 GI sights, but again...I don't carry this gun for 25 yard shots (although it's accurate at that range); I carry it for a close-in, vulgar gunfight where the first round on target likely wins. So I'm not too concerned about the sight picture.


All that being said, if this one ever dies on me, I'll have another one just as soon as I can find it.


I have not yet had the time to run enough rounds down my Springfield to form a learned opinion, but the SA is a very tight (pronounced "accurate") gun, and it's full-size, so I don't see me toting that one around much unless the Zombie Apocalypse actually happens, in which case it will be on my hip. I bought the SA because (circle all) it was a great deal; I always wanted one; and I have a hard time walking past a true 1911. Based on what I have been told, the SA Range Officer (which I have) is match-accurate right out of the box.


Hope this helps.


Edit: Oh, I put a Hogue combat grip on my RIA, and yes, it makes a difference. And mine will feed anything I can fit in the magazine. Not the least bit finicky about ammo.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Edit: Oh, I put a Hogue combat grip on my RIA, and yes, it makes a difference. And mine will feed anything I can fit in the magazine. Not the least bit finicky about ammo.
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I used to roll the Hogue grips, but after using the Ergo grips, I've never looked back.

Close second place is the Magpul 1911 grips.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I used to roll the Hogue grips, but after using the Ergo grips, I've never looked back.

Close second place is the Magpul 1911 grips.
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I can't talk to you for a couple of months. I have been put on "gun spending probation".


So...use Pig Latin, and refer to me as "Geronimo". That oughta fool her for a day or two.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Sorry for the delayed response. I usually only stop by here to ask GV a question.


So...the Rock Island compact 1911. I absolutely love mine. Looking at the website, mine would be the GI Standard CS .45, Model #51416. I've had mine since 2008-ish, and it looks like they've changed a few minor details, but it's the same gun.


Pros: It's a 1911. 7 rounds; standard 1911 safeties; easy to shoot; plenty accurate enough for close-in work; and it's a .45. The website says it has a 4-6 lb trigger, but there's no way mine is that heavy. I'd guess 3-4 lbs, and I bought mine new in the box. I'll say this: I shoot this gun better than my duty Glock or backup Glock, and I attribute part of that to the light trigger.


Cons: It's a heavy chunk of metal to walk around all day with one of these tucked IWB, but that weight absorbs recoil, and makes follow-up shots easier. Then there's the sights, which are standard 1911 GI sights, but again...I don't carry this gun for 25 yard shots (although it's accurate at that range); I carry it for a close-in, vulgar gunfight where the first round on target likely wins. So I'm not too concerned about the sight picture.


All that being said, if this one ever dies on me, I'll have another one just as soon as I can find it.


I have not yet had the time to run enough rounds down my Springfield to form a learned opinion, but the SA is a very tight (pronounced "accurate") gun, and it's full-size, so I don't see me toting that one around much unless the Zombie Apocalypse actually happens, in which case it will be on my hip. I bought the SA because (circle all) it was a great deal; I always wanted one; and I have a hard time walking past a true 1911. Based on what I have been told, the SA Range Officer (which I have) is match-accurate right out of the box.


Hope this helps.


Edit: Oh, I put a Hogue combat grip on my RIA, and yes, it makes a difference. And mine will feed anything I can fit in the magazine. Not the least bit finicky about ammo.
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Thank you so much for the detailed info. I’ve been looking into getting a 1911 and this helps. I have a SA XD 40 as well and love it. As for CCW I’ll probably go with MP shield.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
I can't talk to you for a couple of months. I have been put on "gun spending probation".


So...use Pig Latin, and refer to me as "Geronimo". That oughta fool her for a day or two.
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So... we're not allowed to talk about "Knights Armament" right now?

Or "Wilson Combat"?
 
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Grand Vol said:
So... we're not allowed to talk about "Knights Armament" right now?

Or "Wilson Combat"?
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We need more benign references. "Honey...I'm heading to the range with my new friends, Ed Brown and Les Baer. I like them, couple of straight shooters."

As an aside do any of you guys shoot much other than 230's in the .45?
 
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hndog609 said:
We need more benign references. "Honey...I'm heading to the range with my new friends, Ed Brown and Les Baer. I like them, couple of straight shooters."

As an aside do any of you guys shoot much other than 230's in the .45?
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I'll kick that one over to GV or some of the more knowledgeable posters here. All I've ever shot is 230. Hardball for practice, and Federal HST's for defense loads. Much like my affinity for calibers that start with a "4", I'm an advocate of the heaviest thing I can hit you with when it comes to ammo.


So we're planning to head over to a friends property who has a 50 yard range, a 10 foot berm, and two miles of marsh backing it, so a good, safe place to shoot. I'm planning to confirm the "dial-in" on my AR (Aimpoint PRO and BUS); shoot the GA qualification course with my duty weapon and two backups; play with the Springfield to see how it feeds my preferred loads; and then let Diana get familiar with her Christmas present. Last night I'm out in the garage, checking to make sure I have enough targets, pushpins, practice ammo, safety gear, and what-have-you. My beloved wife opens the door and says "Hey...Tackleberry...when you get rid of your gun woody, the garbage needs to go out."


Love that woman.
 
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hndog609 said:
We need more benign references. "Honey...I'm heading to the range with my new friends, Ed Brown and Les Baer. I like them, couple of straight shooters."

As an aside do any of you guys shoot much other than 230's in the .45?
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I haven't gone with anything but 230s personally. I've seen loads advertised in the 185 range, but it's always the same price, so might as well go with the heavier round as a just in case.

On the other hand, I rarely shoot 147s out of my 9s. 124 grain is about as heavy as I go with them and 115 grain for practice.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
I'll kick that one over to GV or some of the more knowledgeable posters here. All I've ever shot is 230. Hardball for practice, and Federal HST's for defense loads. Much like my affinity for calibers that start with a "4", I'm an advocate of the heaviest thing I can hit you with when it comes to ammo.


So we're planning to head over to a friends property who has a 50 yard range, a 10 foot berm, and two miles of marsh backing it, so a good, safe place to shoot. I'm planning to confirm the "dial-in" on my AR (Aimpoint PRO and BUS); shoot the GA qualification course with my duty weapon and two backups; play with the Springfield to see how it feeds my preferred loads; and then let Diana get familiar with her Christmas present. Last night I'm out in the garage, checking to make sure I have enough targets, pushpins, practice ammo, safety gear, and what-have-you. My beloved wife opens the door and says "Hey...Tackleberry...when you get rid of your gun woody, the garbage needs to go out."


Love that woman.
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The HST is my preference as well. And don't ever let go of a woman that can work a Tackleberry and "gun woody" reference into the same sentence.

Grand Vol said:
I haven't gone with anything but 230s personally. I've seen loads advertised in the 185 range, but it's always the same price, so might as well go with the heavier round as a just in case.

On the other hand, I rarely shoot 147s out of my 9s. 124 grain is about as heavy as I go with them and 115 grain for practice.
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Yeah, there seems to be a lot more variance in preferences regarding 9mm than .45 bullet weights.

In 9mm do you pretty much go with +p for carry? Some think that matters while others think it just beats the gun up more with little advantage.
 
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