D4H's 2017 NFL Draft Review (Best Picks, Best Drafts, and Predictions)

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BIG BOI 23 said:
Zero 100 yard games this year

He gets no separation and isn’t near as good on jump balls as he used to be

He definitely isn’t a viable #1 WR anymore
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People keep saying that stuff, but he never got separation. I don’t really see any skill that’s deteriorated
 
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It’s like Hopkins last year. When you make a living on 50/50 balls and your QB doesn’t throw them, your numbers go down.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I think Dez is fine, Dak is just more conservative in forcing him the ball than Romo was.
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He's done. He's not a route runner, he doesnt have good hands. He made his career by being more athletic than people. Now that hes getting older, he doesnt have anything. His target to reception ratio is among the worst in the league.
 
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I saw the Steelers won big today and put in the backups.

How did future HOFer Joshua Dobbs look?

What’s that you say? He didn’t play and is buried on the depth chart behind Landry Jones? Interesting
 
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Goff is one of those rare QB talents who would flourish in any organization. All he needed was a competent OC and he’s 3 steps ahead of every DC. They have plenty of film on him and it doesn’t matter. He keeps advancing. Top 3 QB barring injury for the time being and 10-15 years down the road. Since every team I could conceivably pull for are eliminated, I’m pulling for the new stars Goff and Gurley and McVay. Fun to watch greatness unfold. :)
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
He's done. He's not a route runner, he doesnt have good hands. He made his career by being more athletic than people. Now that hes getting older, he doesnt have anything. His target to reception ratio is among the worst in the league.
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He’s never been “more athletic” at least in terms of quickness, just stronger. And he’s ****ing 29. People just love stupid hot takes, it’s the same as people last year saying Gurley was bad at football because he’d gone like 20 straight games without blowing up.
 
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Or DeMarco Murray being “done” in Philly because of all those carries in Dallas, except oops, he was the AFC’s leading rusher last year in Tennessee. It’s so dumb
 
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Or Steve Smith being “done” in 2013 before blowing up in Baltimore at age 35. People just see bad stats and construct a BS narrative to fit them, without knowing **** about the player.
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
Is Todd Gurley gonna miss half the season? If not the rams will be good again next year

And honestly what is Goff doing that is gimmicky and gonna suddenly be easier to stop next year? All he’s doing is showing why he was the #1 pick his arm

Rams are loaded and have a good coaching staff they ain’t going anywhere

Jason Garrett on the other hand has proven most of his career to be average at best

The cowboys also suck at WR Dez has fallen off a cliff since his big contract and Witten should retire

Rams defense>cowboys too

Another great comparison from d4h
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You didn't hear those news reports a few weeks ago that said Sean McVay tells Goff audibles thru his headset after the defense gets set. Other coaches don't do this for their QBs. It's usually the QB that surveys the defense after the playcall and determines if an audible is necessary.

Once other teams study this and other gimmicks over the off-season look for them to use this against Goff next season.
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
Watson led the league in passing touchdowns as a rookie before he got hurt it’s not like he had to run around to be effective

Not to mention he got hurt in practice lol so yea you don’t even know how it happened or what it looked like
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Actually he does need to run. His mobility is a huge factor in his game. If he can't run anymore or is scared to run, he's not the same player.

And I would say the same is true for Dobbs, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, or any other mobile QB. Running the ball and more importantly the threat of the run is a huge part of their games.

And I predicted Deshaun Watson had a propensity for knee injuries. Some guys are just more injury prone than others doesn't matter if it's in the game or at practice. Watson is just prone to knee injuries like RG3.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
I saw the Steelers won big today and put in the backups.

How did future HOFer Joshua Dobbs look?

What’s that you say? He didn’t play and is buried on the depth chart behind Landry Jones? Interesting
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Dobbs is redshirting this year. He's being built up.

2019 is the year he takes over the NFL. He'll be NFL MVP that season.
 
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All QB’s are transmitted to until the last second is allowed. Any “reports” that McVay communicates longer with his is desperate narrative driven fiction. :)
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Actually he does need to run. His mobility is a huge factor in his game. If he can't run anymore or is scared to run, he's not the same player.

And I would say the same is true for Dobbs, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, or any other mobile QB. Running the ball and more importantly the threat of the run is a huge part of their games.

And I predicted Deshaun Watson had a propensity for knee injuries. Some guys are just more injury prone than others doesn't matter if it's in the game or at practice. Watson is just prone to knee injuries like RG3.
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You also said in the first post of this ridiculous thread that Matt Stafford got hurt a lot .. Even when facts are readily available it's not your thing.
 
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butchna said:
All QB’s are transmitted to until the last second is allowed. Any “reports” that McVay communicates longer with his is desperate narrative driven fiction. :)
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This wittle guy doesn't know football at all and yet wants to tell everyone he knows talent. Nice post Butchna
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
When I rank these players I'm not ranking them based on who will be the best for one year or two. It's ranking guys over an entire career. Marshon Lattimore is an injury risk like Deshaun Watson.

I simply don't believe those two players will play very long at a high level because of their issues with durability. Good for Lattimore having a lot of success early on. He simply won't have as good a career as Cam Sutton.
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Yet Myles Garrett was your #3 overall player?

The guy who came into the league with durability issues and has missed 40% of his rookie year with injuries?
 
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volfanngatorland said:
Yet Myles Garrett was your #3 overall player?

The guy who came into the league with durability issues and has missed 40% of his rookie year with injuries?
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Yet, even with what should be a "shut yo mouth" type post, he'll come back and spin it to try to fit his argument.
 
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TDawg said:
Yet, even with what should be a "shut yo mouth" type post, he'll come back and spin it to try to fit his argument.
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If he says “Garrett’s injuries were fluke injuries and he’ll stay healthy now,” that’s pretty much an exact description of Matthew Stafford.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Actually he does need to run. His mobility is a huge factor in his game. If he can't run anymore or is scared to run, he's not the same player.

And I would say the same is true for Dobbs, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, or any other mobile QB. Running the ball and more importantly the threat of the run is a huge part of their games.

And I predicted Deshaun Watson had a propensity for knee injuries. Some guys are just more injury prone than others doesn't matter if it's in the game or at practice. Watson is just prone to knee injuries like RG3.
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Conveniently skipped over the part where he led the league in touchdown passes


SEATTLE - With four touchdown passes Sunday against the Seattle Seahawks, Houston Texans rookie quarterback Deshaun Watson continued his historic start, passing Kurt Warner with 19 touchdown passes through his first seven career NFL games


Now be honest d4h if this was Dobbs you’d be creaming your shorts even if he got hurt but since it’s Watson it’s luck, a flash in the pan! Lol you’re too predictable switch it up maybe try giving some of these guys a little credit
 
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