Where did life begin? (Merged)

Do you believe we have a creator, aka "God"?

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BigO95 said:
dduncan4163 said:
I have no idea specifically what would change my mind about God's existence but if he exists he knows exactly what would change my mind.He should be capable of taking the action that would change my mind, and this hasn't happened. So either he doesn't exist or doesn't want me to know he exists yet.[/QUOT
So, do you think that God as great as he is, is subject to you? I would be real careful about that.
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No not at all. I'm not trying to mock your beliefs. You asked what would change my mind and I admit that I don't honestly know but an all power God certainly does and he hasn't reveled himself to me. I'm not making any demands whatsoever. If he exists than he knows that my lack of faith is sincere.
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#1,352
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DinkinFlicka said:
You're only hurting your cause with this tone. For (the actual) love of God and all that is holy, just hush yourself.

If all the crazies would shut up there'd probably be a lot more converted Christians.
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Shutup Toby.

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Don't listen to him BigO, you be you.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
You're only hurting your cause with this tone. For (the actual) love of God and all that is holy, just hush yourself.

If all the crazies would shut up there'd probably be a lot more converted Christians.
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Dear friend, the good news of the gospel wouldn't be so good if the bad news wasn't so bad. the clear teaching of the bible declares that there is an everlasting punishment in the lake of fire. I would be a very cruel and unkind person to know what the bible clearly teaches and go on and say nothing of it.
you can choose not to believe the bible if you want to, you have that right, but I must declare what it says! I would be a sorry preacher otherwise!!!
 
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BigO95 said:
dduncan4163 said:
I appreciate your honest answer. I very much want to give you a very honest and fair objective of how I know that God exist.
I didn't know if something horrible happened to make you change your mind or what? I am sorry if I am poking my nose where it don't belong.
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You don't have to apologize.

I started having doubts in my late teens but I didn't completely loose faith until my last year working as a paramedic.
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#1,360
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dduncan4163 said:
BigO95 said:
Yeah i was growing up. My parents are religious and I attended church regularly growing up.
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Have you ever seen God answer a prayer that it couldn't be explained any other way but that God did it? I have personally had many experiences like that!!
I would be happy to share some of those experiences with you if you like!
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BigO95 said:
Have you ever seen God answer a prayer that it couldn't be explained any other way but that God did it? I have personally had many experiences like that!!
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That's fascinating, can you elaborate on a couple?
 
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BigO95 said:
Dear friend, the good news of the gospel wouldn't be so good if the bad news wasn't so bad. the clear teaching of the bible declares that there is an everlasting punishment in the lake of fire. I would be a very cruel and unkind person to know what the bible clearly teaches and go on and say nothing of it.
you can choose not to believe the bible if you want to, you have that right, but I must declare what it says! I would be a sorry preacher otherwise!!!
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Maybe don't lead on with eternal damnation. It's an old sales trick.
 
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BigO95 said:
Have you ever seen God answer a prayer that it couldn't be explained any other way but that God did it? I have personally had many experiences like that!!
I would be happy to share some of those experiences with you if you like!
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That's called an argument from ignorance. How do you know it wasn't Allah, Vishnu, or Zeus?
 
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Wafflestomper said:
Abiogenesis still has some holes in it, but it looks fairly promising.
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Negative. Unless if by "has holes in it "you mean that every single attempt to recreate it, even given advantages and stimuli that never ever occur in nature on this planet, has still been a total failure.

Even when every possible amino acid that is the building block for living cells have been placed in sterile environments with optimal conditions...and added every type of natural or unnatural energy such as electricity or radiation...the result is the exact same. Nothing. Man will never create life.

Abiogenesis is one of the areas where i believe it takes more faith from the atheist to believe that all life came from some primordial soup, accidentally mind you, than to simply believe only a Creator can create life.
 
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Septic said:
That's fascinating, can you elaborate on a couple?
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I remember when my children were little, it was almost Christmas time and my little boy wanted a john deere tractor for Christmas. a toy version of coarse. my little girl wanted a cabbage patch baby doll for Christmas. at the time I was driving a dump truck for a living and was laid off for the winter and times were hard. all I had to buy presents with was a $250 credit card from sears/K-mart. I have been teaching my children to pray and they were very dedicated to pray every day. My daughter was especially fervent in her prayers. I looked all over K-mart for a john deere tractor and a cabbage patch baby doll but they just didn't have one but every day my children were faithful to pray!
I was very concerned about what that may do to their faith in God if he didn't answer their prayer and I spoke to the Lord about it often. there wasn't anything that I could do about it so we bought the closest thing that we could find and left it at that.
to my surprise, the girls Sunday school teacher said that they would pick a random family out of the church and buy Christmas presents for them and she said that the Lord had put my children on their heart this time. they had no knowledge of the situation at all and didn't even know that I was laid off at the time. she told me that she had no idea what they might like, so they got Billy a little John Deere tractor and Autumn a cabbage patch baby doll!!!! My mother-in-law bought my daughter a cabbage patch baby doll as well!! Autumn probably prayed about at least twice as much as Billy did!!!!
That may be trivial to you but knowing what I knew and the others having absolutely no knowledge of it, what do you think? GOD ANSWERS PRAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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dduncan4163 said:
I have no idea specifically what would change my mind about God's existence but if he exists he knows exactly what would change my mind.He should be capable of taking the action that would change my mind, and this hasn't happened. So either he doesn't exist or doesn't want me to know he exists yet.
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I just wanna give you props, you’ve always been totally respectful towards myself anyway, knowing we believe differently. That speaks a lot about your character imo.
 
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