Official Jon Gruden Thread XLVIII

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All this Jeff Brohm talk... you know there is a thread for him? We aren't going to go get another "up and comer". Phil wants someone who has been there before and knows how to win championships. He said it him self. He will not take a risk or a project on this hire.
 
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VFL97 said:
We would still have Haslam and his puppet, so I think it's already worked out for the best. The only down side is how we've been drug through the mud perceptually, but frankly I don't give a damn about that as long as we get Gruden.
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oh, i agree. long term, we're better off.

i think there is most certainly a short term cost of that, and it is what we're going thru right now (and will probably continue to go thru this off season and next season) .
 
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jakez4ut said:
agree about Currie. and that is just a result of the poorly handled beginnings of the search with haslam and currie singling out Schiano, and that was that.

they had no plan. i do think it's evident that Fulmer and has group have a plan. they've done this much better than the last group. the sad part is, had all of this been done 3 weeks ago, how much better off would we be today? i'm not sure how much leverage we really have at this point, aside from money. if Gruden is that guy, then if i were him, if there's some timing or money related issue, that is worth me waiting on, then i call TN's bluff and dare them to hire Chad Morris because he would say yes before i will.

so i think it's important that while i think everyone agrees with you and I, that this search process is better, it may simply just be too late to get a guy, or THE guy, a lot of us could agree on.

long way of saying, better process, won't necessarily result in an as good/better coach, this late in the game.
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The major difference being is we aren't floating out a Chad Morris name specifically. Les Miles, despite some of the folks' objections to, is not a name without merit. Especially if he comes with some of the "supporting cast" so to speak. Chris Petersen is another name that's well respected in coaching circles. If either one are in play, that tends to make the competition stand up and take notice.

I think a few of the names that were floated weren't serious consideration and were more of a "due diligence" thing to keep all options open. Chad Morris isn't a "swing for the fences" name, but rather someone who has the potential and could be the plan G or H. And I'd bet some are just figments of sportswriters (and I use that term loosely with some) imaginations.
 
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JohnnyVolunteer said:
I have no idea who AV is, but I do know he went through here a few weeks back giving free tickets to the LSU (I think) game to just about anyone who asked. That alone deserves some respect.
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This. AV is not a troll. I don’t think beaver is either. His agenda, IMO, has already been covered and I think he’s along for the ride like the rest of us.
 
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MarkVols said:
SHOWOFF,

This is one of the best descriptive updates that we have had. Your thought are in line with my thought. I get information from different angles as well. You are more connected to inner sources.

I am a little pessimistic because of Gruden’s decision in 2012. Also because of the media and other conduits. I just feel like we have been burned before.

But I have a feeling he is coming. I may be setting myself up for disappointment. But at this point knowing what I know. If he turns us down, after all his opportunities to say I love you but don’t want to coach college. I will question his intent, motives and if he was not just trolling. He might was even the little Chucky himself.💉🔪🧟
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That's exactly how I feel. I feel like he would have already let us down if he truly didn't want to coach or wasn't interested. I think the fact that he has been silent, tells a lot. I could be wrong, and I am willing to accept it, but to me, it just seems that with the disaster last week, he needed to work some things out and there was a timetable all along and we didn't know it. We'll see. Maybe I am smoking something this morning, but he could have shot down things last night on MNF and didn't. there were some awkward pauses and weird vibe when UT was mentioned. I am still on the train. Not the Lane one.
 
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Sara Clark said:
His agent did in 2012, I have no reason to believe he wouldn't this go around.
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To be fair his agent said talks never happened. He called Tennessee to let them know he was going to clear the air and he came out with a statement saying that was just a fantasy world. Unless there is something different out there his agent never admitted to negotiations.
 
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VFL97 said:
If we end up with someone other than Gruden I sure as hell hope Brohm doesn't end up in the SEC East.

Best coach on the table among B listers. And by that I mean those that don't have as big of a name yet in case that wasn't obvious.
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Purdue
2014 Western Kentucky
2015 Western Kentucky
2016 Western Kentucky
4 Yrs Overall
3 Yrs Western Kentucky
1 Yr Purdue
Year School
▲ G W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Bowl Notes
2017 Purdue 12 6 6 0 .500 10.09 6.84
2014 Western Kentucky 13 8 5 0 .615 1.99 -3.01 Popeyes Bahamas Bowl-W
2015 Western Kentucky 14 12 2 0 .857 9.62 -4.02 24 24 Miami Beach Bowl-W
2016 Western Kentucky 13 10 3 0 .769 8.68 -4.03 Boca Raton Bowl-W
4 Yrs Overall 52 36 16 0 .692 7.59 -1.06 3-0
3 Yrs Western Kentucky 40 30 10 0 .750 6.76 -3.69 3-0
1 Yr Purdue 12 6 6 0 .500 10.09 6.84 0-0
Appearances on Leaderboards, Awards, and Honors

Butch Jones was 70-50 before coming


So what’s the difference between the two?
 
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To my volnation family,
I came home from the whole thing with my mom passing (coroner's and funeral home loading her body and trying to find all the pertinent info to take to the FH this morning) and sat down with my laptop, just to get on the board for a little distraction.

I was absolutely overwhelmed with the outpouring of support i received in this thread. absolutely stunned. i cried reading your posts, but it was a different sort of tears than i'd been shedding. i don't know what to say. thank you seems so feeble.

well, gotta go take care of business. dread it. gonna be a long week. we will have some arrangements in SC, then transported to hometown TN for service and burial.

please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

preacherwebb
 
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SHOWOFF said:
All this Jeff Brohm talk... you know there is a thread for him? We aren't going to go get another "up and comer". Phil wants someone who has been there before and knows how to win championships. He said it him self. He will not take a risk or a project on this hire.
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That's good and all, but not-insignificant people are saying these names (not Brohm specifically, someone on here said his name), so it's easy to listen to them just as much as you.
 
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SHOWOFF said:
Personally, I think if it happens, there would be a statement by his agent or we would here it trickle down from the boosters.

I just don't see him saying no though. This is basically his last chance here. Take it or leave it. I think he takes.
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I don’t know. Phil’s strategy has been leak every meeting and let them know we love them. Hubbs thinks it Steele, Brice is leaning towards Morris and we all believe in Bigfoot. Lol. Personally, I think it’s Miles because my BVS is flaring up and I’m out of my meds. Lol.
 
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crparker21 said:
To be fair his agent said talks never happened. He called Tennessee to let them know he was going to clear the air and he came out with a statement saying that was just a fantasy world. Unless there is something different out there his agent never admitted to negotiations.
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Nothing to stop him from saying the same thing this go around.
 
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preacherwebb said:
To my volnation family,
I came home from the whole thing with my mom passing (coroner's and funeral home loading her body and trying to find all the pertinent info to take to the FH this morning) and sat down with my laptop, just to get on the board for a little distraction.

I was absolutely overwhelmed with the outpouring of support i received in this thread. absolutely stunned. i cried reading your posts, but it was a different sort of tears than i'd been shedding. i don't know what to say. thank you seems so feeble.

well, gotta go take care of business. dread it. gonna be a long week. we will have some arrangements in SC, then transported to hometown TN for service and burial.

please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

preacherwebb
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Stay strong man. 🙏🏻
 
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preacherwebb said:
To my volnation family,
I came home from the whole thing with my mom passing (coroner's and funeral home loading her body and trying to find all the pertinent info to take to the FH this morning) and sat down with my laptop, just to get on the board for a little distraction.

I was absolutely overwhelmed with the outpouring of support i received in this thread. absolutely stunned. i cried reading your posts, but it was a different sort of tears than i'd been shedding. i don't know what to say. thank you seems so feeble.

well, gotta go take care of business. dread it. gonna be a long week. we will have some arrangements in SC, then transported to hometown TN for service and burial.

please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

preacherwebb
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your Volnation family is here with you brother!
 
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SHOWOFF said:
All this Jeff Brohm talk... you know there is a thread for him? We aren't going to go get another "up and comer". Phil wants someone who has been there before and knows how to win championships. He said it him self. He will not take a risk or a project on this hire.
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Does Mel Tucker know how to win championships?
 
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Dudleys87 said:
Purdue
2014 Western Kentucky
2015 Western Kentucky
2016 Western Kentucky
4 Yrs Overall
3 Yrs Western Kentucky
1 Yr Purdue
Year School
▲ G W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Bowl Notes
2017 Purdue 12 6 6 0 .500 10.09 6.84
2014 Western Kentucky 13 8 5 0 .615 1.99 -3.01 Popeyes Bahamas Bowl-W
2015 Western Kentucky 14 12 2 0 .857 9.62 -4.02 24 24 Miami Beach Bowl-W
2016 Western Kentucky 13 10 3 0 .769 8.68 -4.03 Boca Raton Bowl-W
4 Yrs Overall 52 36 16 0 .692 7.59 -1.06 3-0
3 Yrs Western Kentucky 40 30 10 0 .750 6.76 -3.69 3-0
1 Yr Purdue 12 6 6 0 .500 10.09 6.84 0-0
Appearances on Leaderboards, Awards, and Honors

Butch Jones was 70-50 before coming


So what’s the difference between the two?
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Thank you!
 
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preacherwebb said:
To my volnation family,
I came home from the whole thing with my mom passing (coroner's and funeral home loading her body and trying to find all the pertinent info to take to the FH this morning) and sat down with my laptop, just to get on the board for a little distraction.

I was absolutely overwhelmed with the outpouring of support i received in this thread. absolutely stunned. i cried reading your posts, but it was a different sort of tears than i'd been shedding. i don't know what to say. thank you seems so feeble.

well, gotta go take care of business. dread it. gonna be a long week. we will have some arrangements in SC, then transported to hometown TN for service and burial.

please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

preacherwebb
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Will do preach, take care.
 
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VFL97 said:
If we end up with someone other than Gruden I sure as hell hope Brohm doesn't end up in the SEC East.

Best coach on the table among B listers. And by that I mean those that don't have as big of a name yet in case that wasn't obvious.
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Yup he's going to continue winning conference titles wherever he is.
 
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