Tee is interested in the Vols

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k-town_king said:
Lamar Jackson will be the number one pick. Darnold was riding the bench until Tee put him in. Tee has done great.
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Lamar Jackson #1 pick? Lol. Not even close. He is not even close to being the best QB.

You are right about Darnold. He went from the bench to preseason Heisman favorite. Darnold looks very good. Tee has done a great job.
 
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I don't hate Tee and think he'll be a fine coach one day but Butch recruited pretty good at Tennessee as well.
 
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Look at Tee when he's proven he's ready for the job. Not saying he isn't up to the task, but it's too risky imo.

Once he's in it's going to be hard to make a change if he's not getting it done. Fulmer isn't going to fire him if we're having 6 win seasons in years 4 and 5.
 
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Lamar Jackson is not considered by many at all as a NFL type QB. His strength is in his mobility which has never translated to success in the NFL. Yes they are all running some sort of RPO now , but NFL QBs have to make long accurate throws on time. Jackson is just the best athlete in college. But not the best QB. Not really even close.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Look at Tee when he's proven he's ready for the job. Not saying he isn't up to the task, but it's too risky imo.

Once he's in it's going to be hard to make a change if he's not getting it done. Fulmer isn't going to fire him if we're having 6 win seasons in years 4 and 5.
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What are we risking exactly? We just went 4-8 and 0-8 in the conference.
 
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Nobody can deny Tee is a top recruiter. He may be the best in the nation at that. Minus Saban and the Bama brand
 
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Meanwhile , Lane's team is putting a beatdown of all beatdowns on their opponent in their conference championship game. :(
 
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TheDeeble said:
Look at Tee when he's proven he's ready for the job. Not saying he isn't up to the task, but it's too risky imo.

Once he's in it's going to be hard to make a change if he's not getting it done. Fulmer isn't going to fire him if we're having 6 win seasons in years 4 and 5.
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It's no "riskier" than bringing in a guy who hasn't fielded a workable offense in years and went 19-10 during his last 3 seasons with top 5 talent (Les Miles). It's no "riskier" than bringing in a guy who hasn't coached at the college level in nearly 30 years and hasn't coached at all in 10 years, and whose offense is widely recognized to be too complex for the college game (Jon Gruden). Even Mike Leach, who I'm a big fan of, would be a risk, as he'd have to bring in the right players to run the Air Raid offense and it could take 3-5 years.

This idea that there is a "risk-free" hire is bunk. They all have "risks." It's just for some reason, there's a vocal contingent that feels the need to exaggerate every risk associated with Tee, but not with any other candidate.
 
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volzfanz said:
Lamar Jackson is not considered by many at all as a NFL type QB. His strength is in his mobility which has never translated to success in the NFL. Yes they are all running some sort of RPO now , but NFL QBs have to make long accurate throws on time. Jackson is just the best athlete in college. But not the best QB. Not really even close.
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He's completed 60.4% of his passes this year for 3489 yrs. If that's not accurate I don't know what is. Hes throw more yes this season than we have in the last two. Check your stats before you post.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
What are we risking exactly? We just went 4-8 and 0-8 in the conference.
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You’re risking that again do another decade. Losing a national brand of you haven’t already lost it because of decisions just like this. Y’all have to remember that our brand is very important. Geographically we have recruiting issues. Being a national brand has been very important. 20 years in the cellar and you will not recover. No matter who you hire then.
 
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MiramarVol said:
He's completed 60.4% of his passes this year for 3489 yrs. If that's not accurate I don't know what is. Hes throw more yes this season than we have in the last two. Check your stats before you post.
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Use your brain. He is a runner. He gets one or two spies every single game. No pash rush because of the fear he will break contain. etc etc etc. NFL teams don’t have bad players. Or slow ones. College QBs who run first throw second don’t do well in the NFL. And he won’t go before Darnold or Rosen or maybe even Mayfield.
 
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volzfanz said:
Lamar Jackson is not considered by many at all as a NFL type QB. His strength is in his mobility which has never translated to success in the NFL. Yes they are all running some sort of RPO now , but NFL QBs have to make long accurate throws on time. Jackson is just the best athlete in college. But not the best QB. Not really even close.
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Some wonder why they think fans have a racial bias. None of this is true. If you follow cfball at all you would know he has been one of the best passers and has improved every year. He is in the mix for number 1 NFL pick but you claim he is not considered an NFL qb. Only by dummies that are looking at a black qb that can run and assuming he can't pass or read defenses.

2018 NFL Draft QB Stock Watch: Lamar Jackson passes Mason Rudolph for top spot - CBSSports.com

2018 NFL Mock Draft: Lamar Jackson first QB off the board in a bonkers first round - CBSSports.com

MTS Notes: Biggest NFL draft risers; Scouting Lamar Jackson - NFL.com
2018 NFL draft: Lamar Jackson belongs in No. 1 overall pick conversation | The Draft Wire


2018 NFL Mock Draft - WalterFootball.com
 
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Not to mention he plays one good defense every year. Just one. And what happens then? What? He loses big. Because he plays against actual athletes who don’t keep three guys in to watch him.
 
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MiramarVol said:
He's completed 60.4% of his passes this year for 3489 yrs. If that's not accurate I don't know what is. Hes throw more yes this season than we have in the last two. Check your stats before you post.
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Facts don't matter to some people who hold biases. Dobbs got the same thing. No matter how well he passed the ball some said he was inaccurate and assumed Dormady (lol) was more accurate.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
It's no "riskier" than bringing in a guy who hasn't fielded a workable offense in years and went 19-10 during his last 3 seasons with top 5 talent (Les Miles). It's no "riskier" than bringing in a guy who hasn't coached at the college level in nearly 30 years and hasn't coached at all in 10 years, and whose offense is widely recognized to be too complex for the college game (Jon Gruden). Even Mike Leach, who I'm a big fan of, would be a risk, as he'd have to bring in the right players to run the Air Raid offense and it could take 3-5 years.

This idea that there is a "risk-free" hire is bunk. They all have "risks." It's just for some reason, there's a vocal contingent that feels the need to exaggerate every risk associated with Tee, but not with any other candidate.
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Sure it is. If any of those other guys suck, they'll be fired.

Fulmer isn't going to fire Tee unless he duplicates this year. If he's going 6-6 every year, that's the future. Tee has shown he a good recruiter, but that's about it.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
It's no "riskier" than bringing in a guy who hasn't fielded a workable offense in years and went 19-10 during his last 3 seasons with top 5 talent (Les Miles). It's no "riskier" than bringing in a guy who hasn't coached at the college level in nearly 30 years and hasn't coached at all in 10 years, and whose offense is widely recognized to be too complex for the college game (Jon Gruden). Even Mike Leach, who I'm a big fan of, would be a risk, as he'd have to bring in the right players to run the Air Raid offense and it could take 3-5 years.

This idea that there is a "risk-free" hire is bunk. They all have "risks." It's just for some reason, there's a vocal contingent that feels the need to exaggerate every risk associated with Tee, but not with any other candidate.
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You're absolutely right. The question always is how can that risk be eliminated or at least reduced. Tee Martin's solutions are the most complex because it would require someone to help him weave through it. Fulmer is actually perfect for that. There is no indicator that Tee would be a good manager because he hasn't had a real chance to manage. Clay Helton coordinates the offense on a day to day basis because he's an offensive guy. Chances are that Clay also leads the game planning meetings with the offensive coaches. Heck, Tee doesn't even call all the plays.

Play Calling is not the most important attribute since you can find good chess players all over the NCAA. I want to know if Tee Martin can game plan, manage players, and manage the many aspect of the program at the same time.
 
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k-town_king said:
Some wonder why they think fans have a racial bias. None of this is true. If you follow cfball at all you would know he has been one of the best passers and has improved every year. He is in the mix for number 1 NFL pick but you claim he is not considered an NFL qb. Only by dummies that are looking at a black qb that can run and assuming he can't pass or read defenses.

2018 NFL Draft QB Stock Watch: Lamar Jackson passes Mason Rudolph for top spot - CBSSports.com

2018 NFL Mock Draft: Lamar Jackson first QB off the board in a bonkers first round - CBSSports.com

MTS Notes: Biggest NFL draft risers; Scouting Lamar Jackson - NFL.com
2018 NFL draft: Lamar Jackson belongs in No. 1 overall pick conversation | The Draft Wire


2018 NFL Mock Draft - WalterFootball.com
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D4H is right about one thing is that Mock Drafts are complete crap and draft analysts are also crap.
 
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k-town_king said:
Some wonder why they think fans have a racial bias. None of this is true. If you follow cfball at all you would know he has been one of the best passers and has improved every year. He is in the mix for number 1 NFL pick but you claim he is not considered an NFL qb. Only by dummies that are looking at a black qb that can run and assuming he can't pass or read defenses.

2018 NFL Draft QB Stock Watch: Lamar Jackson passes Mason Rudolph for top spot - CBSSports.com

2018 NFL Mock Draft: Lamar Jackson first QB off the board in a bonkers first round - CBSSports.com

MTS Notes: Biggest NFL draft risers; Scouting Lamar Jackson - NFL.com
2018 NFL draft: Lamar Jackson belongs in No. 1 overall pick conversation | The Draft Wire


2018 NFL Mock Draft - WalterFootball.com
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Has nothing to do with black or white. You don’t need a mock to know his game. He’s an athlete who runs. And he doesn’t play a top defense all year long.
Darnold will go one
Rosen two
Watch and see
 
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k-town_king said:
Facts don't matter to some people who hold biases. Dobbs got the same thing. No matter how well he passed the ball some said he was inaccurate and assumed Dormady (lol) was more accurate.
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55% is inaccurate, 60% is ok, and 65% is accurate. It's that simple. Once again, you're only looking at race. When you're ready to talk about football and not skin pigmentation, I would be more than happy to have those conversations.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Sure it is. If any of those other guys suck, they'll be fired.

Fulmer isn't going to fire Tee unless he duplicates this year. If he's going 6-6 every year, that's the future. Tee has shown he a good recruiter, but that's about it.
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Fulmer is going to be gone in 2 years and the next AD will make the call on renewing the coach.
 
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Tee Martin is less qualified for this job than even Dooley was when we hired him. Would be an absolute disaster.
 
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