The Hypocrisy of a Kiffin Hire

[KingtUT]

One big problem with offering Kiffin the job is the amount of ammo we'd give every media person in the world if he publicly turned us down. I can hear it now...."Kiffin dumped UT in the middle of the night and UT comes begging for him to come back but Kiffin still not interested in his old girlfriend"... I guess since were already the laughing stock of college football, what's another joke on us going hurt.

 

[hmhawk]

If he's gonna coach in the SEC and he's so great why didn't FL or MSST get him? Just askin'.

 

[JohnWardForever]

In 2009, Tennessee was the "smaller program" to USC. Just like us, the FAU players and fans don't think of their team as being "small". They don't want to be disrespected and crippled any more than we did.

I agree that Kiffin can coach so what happens when that success happens in year 2 of his UT contract? Do you think a guy like Kiffin stays? Do you think Tennessee won't still be a "smaller program" to some other NCAA or NFL team? And when he DOES go (and he will) do you think he leaves things in good shape around Knoxville?

You Structure the Contract for 5 years with a Buyout that HE pays; and No Buyout from UT to Him. If He really wants the Job; he will agree to something like that. This isn't as hard as some believe. Common Frickin Sense.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Florida GOT who they Wanted. Geeze. MSU isn't as DESPERATE to WIN as UT Fans.

 

[GVF]

I'll make it even simpler for you, you don't have a vote

Oh. I get it. You're a snowflake, posting from a school awarded safe space. And since my opinion is different than yours, I don't have one. I thought you guys were just a myth, but man you young boys are such p****s these days.

 

[GVF]

Florida GOT who they Wanted. Geeze. MSU isn't as DESPERATE to WIN as UT Fans.

No. FL got #2, maybe #3. #1 went to UCLA.

 

[JMSqb11]

One big problem with offering Kiffin the job is the amount of ammo we'd give every media person in the world if he publicly turned us down. I can hear it now...."Kiffin dumped UT in the middle of the night and UT comes begging for him to come back but Kiffin still not interested in his old girlfriend"... I guess since were already the laughing stock of college football, what's another joke on us going hurt.

This is a valid concern, but given how Currie conducted the "search" that landed Schiano, you have to make the talks, offer, and possible decision with Kiffin absolutely secret. If he tells us no, we sign Tee right away.

I think we could also tell Lane that if he says no, we are going to hire Tee right away.

In regards to contract, I posted this in the other thread, but this is how you almost force Kiffin to say yes:


Contract is 6 years,10 million dollar buyout that drops to 7.5 million after year 4, not eligible for any extension until after year 4, make his base salary around 3 million and put crazy incentives in there like the following:

$500K for SEC East Title
$1M for SEC Title
$750K for Playoff Appearance
$1M for Natty Appearance
$2M for Natty

$100K for top 15 Recruiting class
$250K for top 10 Recruiting class
$350K for top 5 Recruiting class


At minimum if we make playoff, that means we pay between 5.3-5.6 million to do so in one year. That, my friends, is a heck of a deal.

 

[Guyute]

Ok Don't hire Kiffin....Hire Tee Martin....is that the next step.

So those are our only options?

And yes, given those two choices, I would rather hire an unproven OC who can recruit and over a guy who leaves a wake of sanctions and rumors of trashy behavior wherever he goes. Oh! And screwed UT over to the point that we had to hire Derrick F'n Dooley.

real talk: what makes you think Kiffin wouldn't shaft us again?

 

[LSU-SIU]

However, all of this "hire Kiffin" talk is ridiculous. The only Kiffin worth chasing was Layla (sorry Monte). If Kiffin were to abandon another team for a bigger splash after only one year, what does that say about him? What would it say about UT?

You have insane fans to contend with, which is really the problem when it comes to the hiring process. Very unfortunate as to what is going on. imo

 

[GVF]

This is a valid concern, but given how Currie conducted the "search" that landed Schiano, you have to make the talks, offer, and possible decision with Kiffin absolutely secret. If he tells us no, we sign Tee right away.

I think we could also tell Lane that if he says no, we are going to hire Tee right away.

In regards to contract, I posted this in the other thread, but this is how you almost force Kiffin to say yes:


Contract is 6 years,10 million dollar buyout that drops to 7.5 million after year 4, not eligible for any extension until after year 4, make his base salary around 3 million and put crazy incentives in there like the following:

$500K for SEC East Title
$1M for SEC Title
$750K for Playoff Appearance
$1M for Natty Appearance
$2M for Natty

$100K for top 15 Recruiting class
$250K for top 10 Recruiting class
$350K for top 5 Recruiting class


At minimum if we make playoff, that means we pay between 5.3-5.6 million to do so in one year. That, my friends, is a heck of a deal.

I thought all you had to do was put a quarter in his ear. Silly me.

 

[VFL97]

The biggest issue with Lane is whether or not he would insist on bringing Kendall Briles.

Briles was involved in the scandal at Baylor. How can a vast majority of the base use Schiano's very loose connections to the Sandusky issue but be willing to turn a blind eye to what is probably the second biggest scandal in college sports?

The only way you can say yes to Kiffin (especially if you said no to Schiano) is if we restrict who he can bring with him (namely Briles), and Kiffin would most assuredly want to bring Briles with him. If you aren't familiar with the allegations, I encourage you to read up...

Lawsuit: FAU coach Kendal Briles used sex to recruit at Baylor

 

[LSU-SIU]

You Structure the Contract for 5 years with a Buyout that HE pays; and No Buyout from UT to Him. If He really wants the Job; he will agree to something like that. This isn't as hard as some believe. Common Frickin Sense.

If Tennessee hires or even talks to Lamo, common sense was thrown out the window.

 

[GVF]

You have insane fans to contend with, which is really the problem when it comes to the hiring process. Very unfortunate as to what is going on. imo

It's sad that MSU, within 2 days of losing a quality coach, can make a decision on a quality hire, and keep on trucking. But, up on The Hill.... (And LK should not be considered a quality hire, or even a hire).

You want credibility and restoration. Time to hold your own b***s in your own hand and bring a person of Miles' success and character and credibility in the house immediately. You may be doing this again in 5 years regardless of who you hire. It's the nature of coaching these days unfortunately. So, you start with Miles.

 

[JMSqb11]

The biggest issue with Lane is whether or not he would insist on bringing Kendall Briles.

Briles was involved in the scandal at Baylor. How can a vast majority of the base use Schiano's very loose connections to the Sandusky issue but be willing to turn a blind eye to what is probably the second biggest scandal in college sports?

The only way you can say yes to Kiffin (especially if you said no to Schiano) is if we restrict who he can bring with him (namely Briles), and Kiffin would most assuredly want to bring Briles with him. If you aren't familiar with the allegations, I encourage you to read up...

Lawsuit: FAU coach Kendal Briles used sex to recruit at Baylor

I'd be down for Kiffin coming and replacing Briles with Tee.

Heck, pretty sure that Briles could get the FAU head gig if Kiffin came here.

 

[LSU-SIU]

It's sad that MSU, within 2 days of losing a quality coach, can make a decision on a quality hire, and keep on trucking. But, up on The Hill....

The problem is, the fans are involved in the process... they need to stop all the leaks and simply hire the best candidates.

I am perplexed as to Tennessee fans in particular even having Lamo's name even brought up - I guess he didn't pound them in the ass enough last time.

I find this very strange to say the least.

 

[Guyute]

You Structure the Contract for 5 years with a Buyout that HE pays; and No Buyout from UT to Him. If He really wants the Job; he will agree to something like that. This isn't as hard as some believe. Common Frickin Sense.

And if another school wants him, do you think HE actually pays that buyout? Do you think Kiffin is going to be personally liable to pay that?

Or do they call in their own version of Jimmy Haslam just like we will to pay FAU or any other school whose coach we hire?

Is that sense common enough? Or too hard to believe?

If you think that is going to keep him from jumping ship to what he considers a better opportunity, then I think you are mistaken.

 

[GVF]

The problem is, the fans are involved in the process... they need to stop all the leaks and simply hire the best candidates.

I am perplexed as to Tennessee fans in particular even having Lamo's name even brought up - I guess he didn't pound them in the ass enough last time.

I find this very strange to say the least.

So very true.

 

[JMSqb11]

And if another school wants him, do you think HE actually pays that buyout? Do you think Kiffin is going to be personally liable to pay that?

Or do they call in their own version of Jimmy Haslam just like we will to pay FAU or any other school whose coach we hire?

Is that sense common enough? Or too hard to believe?

If you think that is going to keep him from jumping ship to what he considers a better opportunity, then I think you are mistaken.

Doesn't matter who pays it as long as it gets paid. However, you make his contract so lucrative with payouts for incentives that his ego makes him want to stay here.

Guarantee you that no other school would pay him or give him the same incentive based contract that we would.

So high buyout, high incentive contract make him stay here for a while.

 

[Guyute]

This guy likes participation trophies. You are a loser. I guess we should just go get Dooley or Butch Jones then, right?

And remind me, why did we have to hire Dooley?

.....

Oh yeah.




And don't call people "loser". It is dismissive and makes you look childish.

 

[wmcovol]

The biggest issue with Lane is whether or not he would insist on bringing Kendall Briles.

Briles was involved in the scandal at Baylor. How can a vast majority of the base use Schiano's very loose connections to the Sandusky issue but be willing to turn a blind eye to what is probably the second biggest scandal in college sports?

The only way you can say yes to Kiffin (especially if you said no to Schiano) is if we restrict who he can bring with him (namely Briles), and Kiffin would most assuredly want to bring Briles with him. If you aren't familiar with the allegations, I encourage you to read up...

Lawsuit: FAU coach Kendal Briles used sex to recruit at Baylor

Finally, someone hits on this. No way Tennessee could allow that after the Schiano ****storm. You would basically giving Schiano a open checkbook to sue for damages.

 

[JVol76]

Oh. I get it. You're a snowflake, posting from a school awarded safe space. And since my opinion is different than yours, I don't have one. I thought you guys were just a myth, but man you young boys are such p****s these days.

You're about as far off base as you can be but it's all good.

 

[GRN1926]

Its about integrity and honoring your word if we hire him all i can say is we knew he was a snake when we picked him up.

Get out of here troll

 

[GRN1926]

Finally, someone hits on this. No way Tennessee could allow that after the Schiano ****storm. You would basically giving Schiano a open checkbook to sue for damages.

Man you guys are simpletons. Briles wouldn't be coming here. Lane would still come and win big,but apparently losers like you would rather have participation trophies than win big.