Official Jon Gruden Thread XLIV

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So you'd rather accept mediocrity?

What have you been watching for last decade plus, we are mediocre and the national news people like reminding us of it, because, on paper, we are crap. We are the worst team in the SEC. We didn't win one game in conference, we are mediocre now. Our 10 year average put's us in the middle of 120+ schools in NCAA football.
 
WTF are you talking about?
Top flight, proven, P5 coaches cost money. Either pony it up or end up with Dooley, Butch, or Schiano. Your choice. The extra 3 million we are paying Gundy per year will be easily made up in ticket sales and donations.
 
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While Bama, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, and LSU will always be a few steps ahead. I like Gundy, just not if we are planning to be a real top flight top 10 program year in and year out, just more of the same 7-10 win seasons.

Auburn seems to be having fun with their current 10 win season. No reason to think that’s Gundys ceiling either. But look, outside of 3 guys, fans were going to be let down a little. And apparently at least 2/3 has zero intention of coming to UT.
 
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I believe the information they gave was honest, but my concern that no one would consider was always that this is the same group that tried in 2012 and failed... this makes them 0-2

I say put it to bed

In 2012 Haslam was openly against it. This time around I believe Currie and Haslam schemed behind their back. Unfortunately they fell for it.
 
Is Gundy a sound hire? Yes.

Are there even better options? Yes.

At this point do we have better options? Yes.

But, in the grand scheme, at the end of the day, the question is, regardless of the hire, can they win at Tennessee, and do they want to be here?

For whatever reason, I really do think Gundy can be successful and help Tennessee be great, again. My biggest question, does he really want it or is he just using it to bolster his worth at OSU? Not sure. But he will at least call out the press and take up for his players...and that is a trait I like and respect in a coach. So, I say what the hell, let's give him a chance and if he is up to the task, give him our support. Just my two-cents.

Curious as to who is better from our options?
 
This is a difficult hire to support only because Currie and Haslam are still tied to it.

There is nothing here to be happy about.
 
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Never said he was.. would you rather have Dave Doeren for about $4 mil? You want a good coach, SHELL out.

Think national media had a field day when we ran off Schiano? When we were going to offer him what, $4.5-5 million per year?

Imagine the field day they have when our backup plan after that is to get Gundy and double his salary to $8.4 million.

Massive joke played on the entire fanbase.

Again, not saying Gundy isn't a good coach. But doubling his salary? $8.4 million? That's a disaster.

are you paying his salary?
 
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Top flight, proven, P5 coaches cost money. Either pony it up or end up with Dooley, Butch, or Schiano. Your choice. The extra 3 million we are paying Gundy per year will be easily made up in ticket sales and donations.

Nothing I posted has anything to do with "accepting mediocrity".
 
This is a difficult hire to support only because Currie and Haslam are still tied to it.

There is nothing here to be happy about.
Cutting off your nose to spite your face is a dangerous move. Especially in the world of top flight CFB.
 
So when Gundy says no can we finally go hire Lane!

Exactly my thoughts! Since I live in Boca, I will even offer to go pick him up at home or FAU (both my daughters attend FAU) and drive him to Palm Beach airport and make sure he gets on a plane to KnoxVegas! He would take this job in a heartbeat and he would love to put the nail in Saban coffin and into retirement!!! He knows how Bama program operates and works within.
 
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While Bama, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, and LSU will always be a few steps ahead. I like Gundy, just not if we are planning to be a real top flight top 10 program year in and year out, just more of the same 7-10 win seasons.

Why do you assume they will always be a few steps ahead?

Kirby Smart is extremely unproven and is riding on a loaded team he took from Richt that had a bunch of NFL players who didn't leave after their junior year.

LSU has the Ogre.

Florida has Mullen.

You really think they're better coaches than Gundy? A guy who has 100+ wins, has beaten way better coaches, has won BCS bowl games etc etc.
 
success ?

please describe for us how Gundy won a Natl Championship...

take your time.................

I’ll answer 😉

So by most accounts the top 4 candidates were

Kelly, Gruden, Patterson, Petersen

Why don’t you tell me how many national titles they have combined? Your criteria for success is a little off. 😬

Take your time...
 
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