Official Jon Gruden Thread XLIV

[VolNate]

This Gruden thing was so much more than just about Gruden, for me.

Hiring Kiffin is a major fail.

If the AD is fixed and then the decision is made to go after Kiffin, then I’m okay with it. Quite frankly, his tour, brief as it was, was the last time I had fun as a Vol.

 

[AllVolinGA]

Vol emotional stability matters.

You are one of the most emotionally stable people I have seen on this site. (Save for that slight OCD tendency to dig down underneath a subject.)
Have a nice day.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. But this feels like my parent's divorce. I want some grown ups to stand up and make good choices that make everything better. They have the strength, money, and ability. They just need to take the steps.[/QUOTE]

Amen to that sister.

 

[EastTN]

I would hope that what the national media- as in, folks with microphones who have proven to be nothing but jackasses- says is irrelevant.

The PR disaster has gotten worse because our incompetent AD and Chancellor have done nothing but release pathetic twitter statements about this debacle. Letting them go is like throwing a stick into an inferno; it may spark up a bit, but in the end it doesn't matter.

I'd rather use this momentum to clean house at the University (academically AND athletically) and get the right hires in place. I think going after a Gruden or a Petersen with serious cash should be the top option now.

But you're right, with our current leadership, it won't happen.

Yep you are correct now would be the time to clean house....but with current people in place I don't think it happens. Haslam has to much control and deep pockets, and free use of planes etc. They are not giving that up. Self gain game in Knoxville. It is gonna take an empty Neyland and I mean really empty for a whole season to get some attention on the hill.

 

[Pete Carpet]

I get what you are saying my point I guess is if Currie is at the Helm no way he comes. And I don't think the university fires Currie right now. I think he gets to make a hire fast because firing him would only add more debacle in the national Spotlight and I really don't think they want that.

That's a valid point about not firing Currie to hold down the flames ,but Currie set the fire.While the flames are burning push him in with it. Get it over with, like pulling a bandaid.

 

[G8rh8r]

Here's the thing, if people such as boosters and what not want change and want the Haslam's out of the picture then why not leak this whole messed up situation to someone like Trey Wallace or Clay Travis or Barrett Sallee?

It would seem like that's the only real way change will happen, get the dirty laundry in the hands of someone in the media. Make it so uncomfortable for the Haslams that they have no choice but to back off

While it might cause a big black eye for the university and the program it might be the only way to being about real change.

As the Joker said you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

I agree completely. This thing is already a huge black eye. If there is any agreement that was in place with Gruden, then leak it and let’s get this party started.

Alright Grudenville, I’m going to take a breather for a bit. I’m sure I’ll only last a couple of hours, but I need a little down time. See you soon.

 

[VolNate]

 

[Behr]

So, we shouldn't fire Currie because of looking bad in the National spotlight.

Then screw it, let's hire Lane Kiffin. That'll show'um.

 

[knoxswim890]

Now someone please tell me how to make that my aviator image. Thanks.

That ReVolt image should be on the Rock.

If you want this image as your avatar, use this resized image:

Right-click and "save image as". Then, go to User CP (left of the upper banner) and click on "edit avatar" in the left-hand column, then upload this picture and click "save changes".

Edit: saw AllVolinGA got it taken care of :good!:

 

[VFLnSFD]

So, we shouldn't fire Currie because of looking bad in the National spotlight.

Then screw it, let's hire Lane Kiffin. That'll show'um.

Exactly.

 

[volinSmyrna]

I wish people would get the fact that he is not, NOT coming. In fact, I think that was part of the reason people were so pissed about GS. The administration and even Gruden himself have teased the fan base about Gruden being a serious candidate, and he is not. Move on!:hi:

I get what you are saying....”not, NOT coming”

Woooo Hooooo guys. overseaorange2 said he’s coming!!!!

 

[tennvols77]

At this point the only thing to do is go public with as much tangible, credible, provable, and irrefutable evidence of both anything concerning Gruden and a deal and the implicit and complicit acts of Currie, Haslam, and if also involved, Davenport and Dipietro.

I would specualte we could see something from Hargis soon.

 

[Vols_Life]

Looks like lots of Kiffin love going around. Thus, I will chime in. IF, and only if, Gruden first, then Miles second, turns the job down, then Kiffin all the way. I have always liked him. I do not necessarily agree with how he left the program, but the man is one of, if not the best, offensive minds out there. Hell, he made Crompton look good and helped him get to the NFL. He helped make Blake Sims at Alabama look good enough to get to the NFL. Most importantly, you know he would have the third Saturday in October circled on his calendar, just to stick it to Saban. If not for two blocked field goals, he would have done that during his first tenure here. Kiffin would not be a bad hire for this program, especially given the current state of affairs. We would just need to make sure he was committed, long term.

 

[warrior]

I am not 100% sure this is accurate but wanted to pass along anyways. Someone very connected to the Haslam camp told me they went back to Gruden on Saturday night and offered him and his staff an insane amount of money. He turned it down again; Currie panicked due to the timeline he told people and hopped on a plane to Columbus.

Could be true or could be Haslam pushing Currie as the fall guy

I call BS. Someone trying to cya.

 

[EZE]

Just a friendly 2 cents worth from your brother Razorback to west. I don't have enough posts to start my own thread and probably won't. Just FYI, I love your program as an east division competitor.

I followed this forum and your Vol twitters for a couple hours Sunday as this was going down. The entire thing was pure comedy. The funny thing is Schiano most likely was the best coach you were going to find. He can't help the fact he worked at Penn State in the early 90's. To suggest he knew anything about what was going on at that time is ridiculous. If he did witness that going on, he just might have walked in the shower and ripped Sandusky's pecker off and kicked his butt. His Rutgers time was great. He turned a losing program into a winner the last 7 years he was there after he got his players and rebuilt the culture. Hence the reason the Bucs took a chance on him. Who cares what he did in the NFL. Saban and Spurrier didn't last either.

I understand I don't have much room to talk b/c my moronic peers ran off Houston Nutt when you folk was running off Fulmer in a similar manner. So that's 2 highly successful coaches that had a disappointing year and the internet lynch mobs runs them off. But Sunday I was just happy that joke was on ya'll and not us. Your Tennessee Volunteer program is such a joke these days I'm embarrassed to share a state border with you. I can even say that after sitting through the Bielema error. Your dumpster fire burns so big even I'm getting warm hundreds of miles away. You folks want to pick the coach, then you pick the coach. Get Kiffin and all his character baggage if he will come back. You're looking at another 10 years just like the last 10 years. I actually like your program and it's sad to see how far it's fallen since Fulmer left. After Sunday your program is the joke of college football. Any decent coach would be a fool to step in your dumpster fire. You think you're Florida but your the equivalent to Kentucky.

I think you have your own issues to deal with. Your "help" isn't needed here.

 

[VFL13]

So I have a serious question? What if this is all one big giant smokescreen?

At one time someone speculated that Currie was a slick individual. What if he never contacted Shiano? What if he leaked it to his staff to find out who wasn’t loyal?

Think about it. No comment from Shiano or gruden in all of this and a half hearted bull**** letter from Davenport and Currie.

Then everyone said gruden signed the 14th. Tell me how any of this makes sense lol. I’m so lost right now

 

[AllVolinGA]

Personally, I do not care what the national media thinks about UT right now. I care about our athletic program and specifically our football team not sucking hind tit to the rest of the SEC. We have to get our house in order first. It may cost us some recruits this time. So be it. Get the hire right and then everything else will be straightened out. But we can not have Currie making a desperation hire just like Hamilton did with DD.
Fire Currie, get a competent AD, then hire the football coach.

 

[utfan089]

You couldn't be a more obvious troll.

Edit stupid razorback fan.

 

[OrangeBlood4life]

The boosters shouldn't leak everything all at once. The heat is on right now, after a few day it will slow down just a little.. boom, now leak something else about the situation, wait a few days then leak more..

 

[overseasorange2]

Serious ?....then why are you in a Gruden thread at 6:50 a.m. on a Tue. morning?

Because I am at work waiting for a program to run. Is that ok with you?:hi:

 

[EZE]

So I have a serious question? What if this is all one big giant smokescreen?

At one time someone speculated that Currie was a slick individual. What if he never contacted Shiano? What if he leaked it to his staff to find out who wasn’t loyal?

Think about it. No comment from Shiano or gruden in all of this and a half hearted bull**** letter from Davenport and Currie.

Then everyone said gruden signed the 14th. Tell me how any of this makes sense lol. I’m so lost right now

What if you need to see a doctor about your delusion?

 

[Coastypop]

Good morning... if Currie is not fired or resigns today then I think we hire another Google/Bing coach .... I don?t like it but that is what I think happens


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[Memphisvol87]

I'd take Kiffen all day long. Yea he left in the middle of the night and hurt some feeling because we thought "were tennessee" how dare you do this to us. Whatever get over it, the man is a baller of a coach. After Dooley,Butch, and almost Shiano I would be over joyed to get Kiffen at least we would win games even if it was for a short time. but I think Kiffen has grown up and realized he can't just jump all over the place.

I’d take him without question, except he has to do to FAU what he did to us, to come back to us. Not sure if that feels all warm and fuzzy.

 

[overseasorange2]

I get what you are saying....”not, NOT coming”

Woooo Hooooo guys. overseaorange2 said he’s coming!!!!

And hold on to that Enron stock, I just know it will come back one day!!!!!lol:

 

[INDEFENSE]

In truth Kiffin is probably the best we can do now by a far margin. Someone needs to be the bridge between this Currie mess and the next real coach search. Kiffin could win and with his actions last time we could insure a very low buyout for us and a very large one for him.Who else could we possibly have any control of the negotiations over now?

 

[WhiteOakVol]

Personally, I do not care what the national media thinks about UT right now. I care about our athletic program and specifically our football team not sucking hind tit to the rest of the SEC. We have to get our house in order first. It may cost us some recruits this time. So be it. Get the hire right and then everything else will be straightened out. But we can not have Currie making a desperation hire just like Hamilton did with DD.
Fire Currie, get a competent AD, then hire the football coach.

I agree, we need to fire Currie and hire a competent AD, who is not in the back pocket of certain boosters.
And it would be easy for me to think that Phil Fulmer or David Blackburn would be able to step right in.
But they would most likely have to go through the process of interviewing candidates, and that would take precious time! All the while, we are without a football coach!
Arkansas fired their coach on Sunday, and will be looking to hire a new one. But they fired their AD a few weeks ago.
So to my question ...... can UT fire Currie, and still get us a QUALITY coach (Gruden) before hiring a new AD?