Theory on National Media Bashing

[cwhitevol30]

Saw this theory on twitter on why some national media members are attacking UT right now.

Posted by Matt Bowers @bower_power7

"Why is UT receiving such bad national press right now? Consider this, the 4 ESPN hosts currently trashing Tennessee: Booger, Kirk, Desmond, and Stephen A Smith all have something very much in common. They are represented by CAA (Creative Artists Agency). Guess who is a lead agent for CAA... Jimmy Sexton. Greg Schiano's agent. Fact check me. I dare you. It makes so much sense why UT is being trashed by "elite" college football figures. Jimmy Sexton is feeding them info to get them to make Tennessee look bad. The fans ousted and toppled not only Schiano but Sexton by uniting together to fend off a coach we were not willing to accept. Sexton appears to be quite the sore loser."

Thought it was to interesting not to post.

 

[jbradley1382]

Saw this theory on twitter on why some national media members are attacking UT right now.

Posted by Matt Bowers @bower_power7

"Why is UT receiving such bad national press right now? Consider this, the 4 ESPN hosts currently trashing Tennessee: Booger, Kirk, Desmond, and Stephen A Smith all have something very much in common. They are represented by CAA (Creative Artists Agency). Guess who is a lead agent for CAA... Jimmy Sexton. Greg Schiano's agent. Fact check me. I dare you. It makes so much sense why UT is being trashed by "elite" college football figures. Jimmy Sexton is feeding them info to get them to make Tennessee look bad. The fans ousted and toppled not only Schiano but Sexton by uniting together to fend off a coach we were not willing to accept. Sexton appears to be quite the sore loser."

Thought it was to interesting not to post.

That’s more than 140 characters

 

[cwhitevol30]

That’s more than 140 characters

Twitter is at 280 now. But it was a pic he posted from his notes

 

[golfballs]

That’s more than 140 characters

He tweeted a screenshot

 

[cwhitevol30]

He tweeted a screenshot

This

 

[kayman1]

I dont give a rat's ass what that bunch says, we all were united on gs.

 

[OrangeSoddyDaisy]

Is there any possibility at all that the national media has a valid point? Is there any possibility that the assistant who told the assistant he saw something is not accurate especially considering that no charges were brought after such a high profile case was investigated both legally and in the public, and considering that he has held 3 very publicly vetted positions since?

I don't know the answer but for a bunch of people who have no access to information to have such a negative impact on a career and a university and a football team and to continue to pile on relentlessly says a lot for about why we haven't had a valid program in 10 years and won't for the foreseeable future.

This herd-think is counter productive and dangerous.

 

[maxxx]

Wayyyy more than those 4 are smashing UT and mostly its fans right now. I have listened to a couple of interviews this morning about this and I 100% agree with them. If Gruden was a PSU assistant in the mid 90's no one would give a damn about the scandal there. All of this faux outrage is total BS. Its only because people think UT should have hired a bigger name. All this crap and people never bothered to check if these are actual facts or hearsay. Once again, the UT fanbase has completely embarrassed the school and program. Good job idiots.k:

PS. Maybe UT fans need to look in the mirror on this one. If the vast majority of the nation is saying this was completely wrong and an embarrassment, maybe they have a point. These are people looking at this with absolutely no skin in the game. They are just observers, and they are all saying the UT fans f@%&ed this up. I'm embarrassed to be a UT supporter today.

 

[maxxx]

Wayyyy more than those 4 are smashing UT and mostly its fans right now. I have listened to a couple of interviews this morning about this and I 100% agree with them. If Gruden was a PSU assistant in the mid 90's no one would give a damn about the scandal there. All of this faux outrage is total BS. Its only because people think UT should have hired a bigger name. All this crap and people never bothered to check if these are actual facts or hearsay. Once again, the UT fanbase has completely embarrassed the school and program. Good job idiots.k:

PS. Maybe UT fans need to look in the mirror on this one. If the vast majority of the nation is saying this was completely wrong and an embarrassment, maybe they have a point. These are people looking at this with absolutely no skin in the game. They are just observers, and they are all saying the UT fans f@%&ed this up. I'm embarrassed to be a UT supporter today.

To clarify. I am speaking of his involvement and knowledge of the scandal. Not that the abuse was taking place. We all know what was happening there. What we dont know is how much a 20-something year old assistant knew about it.

 

[Smokeyshowl66]

Is there any possibility at all that the national media has a valid point? Is there any possibility that the assistant who told the assistant he saw something is not accurate especially considering that no charges were brought after such a high profile case was investigated both legally and in the public, and considering that he has held 3 very publicly vetted positions since?

I don't know the answer but for a bunch of people who have no access to information to have such a negative impact on a career and a university and a football team and to continue to pile on relentlessly says a lot for about why we haven't had a valid program in 10 years and won't for the foreseeable future.

This herd-think is counter productive and dangerous.

You have a raise a point that needs to be considered. 3 counterpoints.

- Schiano's issues go well beyond what happened at PSU. The firsthand accounts of his stint with Tampa Bay are shady at best and reminiscent of many of the stories that have come out about Butch Jones in terms of player treatment.
- There's really no proven track record of success over a sustained period of time. Maybe that's too much to ask for, but certainly in that context, he is not what Currie promised or set expectations for in his initial press coference
- Schiano may be completely innocent on the PSU issues - we'll never know. However, on the heels of a Title IX settlement (that had really nasty allegations), UT cannot afford the perception around their most visible sports figure to have any "air" of ignorance to or tolerance of questions around their past

The headlines make the fan base look irrational and volatile. In reality, I thank God for social media and a passionate fan base. I thank God this occurred on the weekend. Schiano was not the right fit for UT, not because of what he was or wasn't involved in at PSU, but because everything about him doesn't fit UT at this moment in time.

Currie should know that - but he panicked - or he had a list he was going to use no matter what. Either way, it reflects on an AD who is not in touch with the current environment and the recent history of our great University. That is incompetence and that is why he must go.

 

[MaTaLa]

Is there any possibility at all that the national media has a valid point? Is there any possibility that the assistant who told the assistant he saw something is not accurate especially considering that no charges were brought after such a high profile case was investigated both legally and in the public, and considering that he has held 3 very publicly vetted positions since?

I don't know the answer but for a bunch of people who have no access to information to have such a negative impact on a career and a university and a football team and to continue to pile on relentlessly says a lot for about why we haven't had a valid program in 10 years and won't for the foreseeable future.

This herd-think is counter productive and dangerous.

Schiano should never have been considered a good hire for us even w/o the Penn State connection!!

Haslam has been enamored with Schiano for a while. Currie has history with Schiano and is Haslam's puppet.

I think Currie had two 'searches' ongoing...one that was overt and had him talking to other candidatesk for appearances, and another covert one with only one name of it, Schiano, that he tried to sneak in.

 

[zydane47]

Is there any possibility at all that the national media has a valid point? Is there any possibility that the assistant who told the assistant he saw something is not accurate especially considering that no charges were brought after such a high profile case was investigated both legally and in the public, and considering that he has held 3 very publicly vetted positions since?

I don't know the answer but for a bunch of people who have no access to information to have such a negative impact on a career and a university and a football team and to continue to pile on relentlessly says a lot for about why we haven't had a valid program in 10 years and won't for the foreseeable future.

This herd-think is counter productive and dangerous.

I can't tell if you're serious or just dense.

What part of we don't want ANYONE who was in anyway associated with PSU at that time near our program do you not understand?

Again I'll ask, if this was all false then why didn't GS go after McQuery for defamation of character? He's had over a year since this broke last summer to do something about it and he hasn't.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Wayyyy more than those 4 are smashing UT and mostly its fans right now. I have listened to a couple of interviews this morning about this and I 100% agree with them. If Gruden was a PSU assistant in the mid 90's no one would give a damn about the scandal there. All of this faux outrage is total BS. Its only because people think UT should have hired a bigger name. All this crap and people never bothered to check if these are actual facts or hearsay. Once again, the UT fanbase has completely embarrassed the school and program. Good job idiots.k:

PS. Maybe UT fans need to look in the mirror on this one. If the vast majority of the nation is saying this was completely wrong and an embarrassment, maybe they have a point. These are people looking at this with absolutely no skin in the game. They are just observers, and they are all saying the UT fans f@%&ed this up. I'm embarrassed to be a UT supporter today.

Good grief I have read it F'n all now.

 

[FLSTF-VOL]

Wayyyy more than those 4 are smashing UT and mostly its fans right now. I have listened to a couple of interviews this morning about this and I 100% agree with them. If Gruden was a PSU assistant in the mid 90's no one would give a damn about the scandal there. All of this faux outrage is total BS. Its only because people think UT should have hired a bigger name. All this crap and people never bothered to check if these are actual facts or hearsay. Once again, the UT fanbase has completely embarrassed the school and program. Good job idiots.k:

PS. Maybe UT fans need to look in the mirror on this one. If the vast majority of the nation is saying this was completely wrong and an embarrassment, maybe they have a point. These are people looking at this with absolutely no skin in the game. They are just observers, and they are all saying the UT fans f@%&ed this up. I'm embarrassed to be a UT supporter today.

I agree 100%. There is not a reputable quality coach out there ignorant enough to take a job in this toxic environment! 98% of everyone here had no Idea Schiano was even on the Penn State staff untill some of these butt hurt Gruden groupies latched onto the first negative thing they could find and ran with it! I think he would have been a horrible hire but this moral outrage over something that is nothing more than hearsay is complete bull****! I'm glad he is not here but not for the reason why and how it happened.

 

[tallvolball98]

I agree 100%. There is not a reputable quality coach out there ignorant enough to take a job in this toxic environment! 98% of everyone here had no Idea Schiano was even on the Penn State staff untill some of these butt hurt Gruden groupies latched onto the first negative thing they could find and ran with it! I think he would have been a horrible hire but this moral outrage over something that is nothing more than hearsay is complete bull****! I'm glad he is not here but not for the reason why and how it happened.

Not true. We have been talking about Shiano and penn state tragedy for a week.

 

[volfan102455]

Wayyyy more than those 4 are smashing UT and mostly its fans right now. I have listened to a couple of interviews this morning about this and I 100% agree with them. If Gruden was a PSU assistant in the mid 90's no one would give a damn about the scandal there. All of this faux outrage is total BS. Its only because people think UT should have hired a bigger name. All this crap and people never bothered to check if these are actual facts or hearsay. Once again, the UT fanbase has completely embarrassed the school and program. Good job idiots.k:

PS. Maybe UT fans need to look in the mirror on this one. If the vast majority of the nation is saying this was completely wrong and an embarrassment, maybe they have a point. These are people looking at this with absolutely no skin in the game. They are just observers, and they are all saying the UT fans f@%&ed this up. I'm embarrassed to be a UT supporter today.

I am embarrassed to be a UT supporter today but NOT because of the fans.

I am embarrassed because we have an AD that has no idea what he was doing as as such has caused a big mess.

 

[OrangeSoddyDaisy]

Wayyyy more than those 4 are smashing UT and mostly its fans right now. I have listened to a couple of interviews this morning about this and I 100% agree with them. If Gruden was a PSU assistant in the mid 90's no one would give a damn about the scandal there. All of this faux outrage is total BS. Its only because people think UT should have hired a bigger name. All this crap and people never bothered to check if these are actual facts or hearsay. Once again, the UT fanbase has completely embarrassed the school and program. Good job idiots.k:

PS. Maybe UT fans need to look in the mirror on this one. If the vast majority of the nation is saying this was completely wrong and an embarrassment, maybe they have a point. These are people looking at this with absolutely no skin in the game. They are just observers, and they are all saying the UT fans f@%&ed this up. I'm embarrassed to be a UT supporter today.

This is what I was trying to say but you did it better.

Imagine that I said I heard your neighbor heard from a coworker you witnessed an alleged crime and your life was ruined. But you didn't. You can never unring the bell.

The University of Tennessee is about to have its clock cleaned in civil court like this state has never seen.

 

[FLSTF-VOL]

I can't tell if you're serious or just dense.

What part of we don't want ANYONE who was in anyway associated with PSU at that time near our program do you not understand?

Again I'll ask, if this was all false then why didn't GS go after McQuery for defamation of character? He's had over a year since this broke last summer to do something about it and he hasn't.

I don't know who the "we" you are referring to is but I'm not in your "we". You don't speak for me. If you had half a brain you would do a little research on the whole situation and come to the conclusion that its a bunch of nonsense. I don't like the guy and think he would have been a horrible hire but to be a part of killing this mans career from some hearsay is BS! Besides the fact that he was only 25 yrs old at the time and just starting his coaching career, Bradley the man he supposedly told that he saw something flat out denies that it ever happened!

 

[volfan102455]

Saw this theory on twitter on why some national media members are attacking UT right now.

Posted by Matt Bowers @bower_power7

"Why is UT receiving such bad national press right now? Consider this, the 4 ESPN hosts currently trashing Tennessee: Booger, Kirk, Desmond, and Stephen A Smith all have something very much in common. They are represented by CAA (Creative Artists Agency). Guess who is a lead agent for CAA... Jimmy Sexton. Greg Schiano's agent. Fact check me. I dare you. It makes so much sense why UT is being trashed by "elite" college football figures. Jimmy Sexton is feeding them info to get them to make Tennessee look bad. The fans ousted and toppled not only Schiano but Sexton by uniting together to fend off a coach we were not willing to accept. Sexton appears to be quite the sore loser."

Thought it was to interesting not to post.

There is no doubt this is coming from Sexton and the OSU crowd. And right now they are doing better damage control than the UTAD is doing.

 

[NickZ4UT]

He tweeted a screenshot

Also the limit is now 280 characters.

 

[OrangeSoddyDaisy]

I can't tell if you're serious or just dense.

What part of we don't want ANYONE who was in anyway associated with PSU at that time near our program do you not understand?

Again I'll ask, if this was all false then why didn't GS go after McQuery for defamation of character? He's had over a year since this broke last summer to do something about it and he hasn't.

I assure you I'm not dense. He didn't go after McQuery because he had no case to prove defamation. Defamation is writing in big black block letters on a white background "Schiano covered up child rape at Penn State" on university property. He'll be contacted by two dozen lawyers requesting to litigate this alone.

 

[Volfan76]

While they would never admit to it, the national media sympathizes with Greg Schiano and what he did. They believe at that pay level, they are above morals...they know that they wouldn't have protected a child if it meant they would lose their career. They think that the money and status is too important. They hate us for having a standard that they would never live to....they hate any standard that doesn't put money and status above everything else.

 

[volfan102455]

This is what I was trying to say but you did it better.

Imagine that I said I heard your neighbor heard from a coworker you witnessed an alleged crime and your life was ruined. But you didn't. You can never unring the bell.

The University of Tennessee is about to have its clock cleaned in civil court like this state has never seen.

I doubt it. Doing that allows the testimony to be reopened and others to be called to testify under oath. GS somehow avoided being deposed in the PSU matter even though he was a coach there at the time the incidents happened.

And his life has not been ruined. As far as I know he is still employed by OSU. All that happened was that the article in the Washington Post that was mostly ignored became very visible to everyone. He did not sue them - maybe if he had - this would have been avoided.

 

[volfan102455]

While they would never admit to it, the national media sympathizes with Greg Schiano and what he did. They believe at that pay level, they are above morals...they know that they wouldn't have protected a child if it meant they would lose their career. They think that the money and status is too important. They hate us for having a standard that they would never live to....they hate any standard that doesn't put money and status above everything else.

Unfortunately I believe you are right. That attitude is what let the incidents continue at PSU for a very long time.

 

[vik]

Is there any possibility at all that the national media has a valid point?

If the vast majority of the nation is saying this was completely wrong and an embarrassment, maybe they have a point.

No. Unfortunately, the media's point seems to be that we Tennessee fans should just shut up and celebrate the Greg Schiano hire. Sorry - Not Gonna Do It.