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Heh, I don't mean it as a trap. I figure he knows what he said 2 days ago. Just don't understand why he has such divergent viewpoints depending on which thread he's in.
the Grudenite mantra?
Ive been disgusted by our institution. The football team is not the only thing that has failed miserably, but it is the by far the most visible. Fixing it is priority one before any of our other failed programs can be restored. We vastly outnumber the flip-floppers and Mullentards. This is the first time Ive had faith in our AD since my faith was betrayed in the fall of 1992. The curse (or whatever you want to call it) will be broken. Gruden to the Hill.
No.This is our coach, Jon Gruden. There are many SEC coaches, but this one is ours.
Our coach is our leader. He is our inspiration. We must support him as we must support our program.
Without the program, our coach is useless. Without our coach, we are useless. Our coach must guide our team true. He must outcoach our enemies who are trying to outcoach him. He must defeat them before they defeat us. He will
Our coach and VFL know that what counts in football is not the yards we gain, the passes we attempt, nor the charts we consult. We know that it is the final score that counts. We will score
Our coach is human, even as VFL is, because it is our program. Thus, we will learn it and support it as a brother. We will learn its weaknesses, its strengths, its parts, its members, its loves, and its fears. Our coach will keep our program ready, even as VFL is ready. We will become part of each other. We will
Before God, I swear this creed. Our coach and VFL are the defenders of our program. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the winners of championships.
So be it, until victory is Tennessee's and there is no enemy, but National Championship!
VeazyBurney99 on VQ
"I know for a fact that Condredge Holloway is telling people that the gruden deal is done and will be announced next week. How many here have a source connected to Holloway.
Let's see if this gets deleted."
I know Condredge VERY well, and I HIGHLY recommend that anyone who knows him to NOT call him and inquire about this!!! I'm not about to call him. I don't like getting cursed at during the holidays.
No chance this came out of his mouth....none, zero.
Coasty?
This is our coach, Jon Gruden. There are many SEC coaches, but this one is ours.
Our coach is our leader. He is our inspiration. We must support him as we must support our program.
Without the program, our coach is useless. Without our coach, we are useless. Our coach must guide our team true. He must outcoach our enemies who are trying to outcoach him. He must defeat them before they defeat us. He will
Our coach and VFL know that what counts in football is not the yards we gain, the passes we attempt, nor the charts we consult. We know that it is the final score that counts. We will score
Our coach is human, even as VFL is, because it is our program. Thus, we will learn it and support it as a brother. We will learn its weaknesses, its strengths, its parts, its members, its loves, and its fears. Our coach will keep our program ready, even as VFL is ready. We will become part of each other. We will
Before God, I swear this creed. Our coach and VFL are the defenders of our program. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the winners of championships.
So be it, until victory is Tennessee's and there is no enemy, but National Championship!
I only want you to do the same as I'd like everyone to do, and that I try to hold myself to always do: be honest, consistently honest, regardless of audience.
Based on everything you've said in the various threads lately, I honestly believe your position is pretty much like this: "I'd like to get Gruden, he'd be good, but so would other coaches, some just as good as Gruden, and I absolutely do not believe there's any chance we get Gruden, in fact, it is unhealthy for the community to entertain the notion that we can get him."
About right? [I can reference posts, if needed]
So if that's your real position, say that. Anywhere you are, say that. Say it in the Mullen thread, if you're there. Say it in the "move on from Gruden" thread, if you're there. And say it here, if you feel the need to enter this thread and contribute.
Certainly do not say you're on the train, when you're clearly not. I think when you said that, you were just pandering to the Grudenite community.
Sorry, shouldn't have conversations this serious, this close to Thanksgiving. But it's been bugging me for a couple of days. I'll drop it now.
i believe i have. honestly, i want gruden, don't think he's coming, and i don't think it's good for our fanbase to keep this up for as long as we have.
then i guess there's really nothing left for me to say then, is there? i stand by anything i've posted jp. that's all i can tell you.
those threads have their subject matter, this has its subject matter. as i've said, i've kept my "alternate gruden" comments out of this thread. i try to stay on the topic of whatever thread i'm in.
or...........it was a joke in response to GV's "invitation" to get on the train, a humorous quip to convey my honest opinion, while also acknowledging, that i agree, it'd be great to get him. (hence the stowaway comment, not making the investment others have...)
certainly appreciate you singling me out. hope you have a great holiday jp.:hi: