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I don't disagree. If it's not Gruden, it's not getting announced until after next Saturday. If it's annmounced before then, it would have to be a coach not coaching. Jmo

I absolutely agree. And we know Kelly isn't an option so if it's announced this week I can't see it being anyone but Gruden. No way you make it a distraction for kids at another school. JMO
 
Look I'm going to say this. There is a plan in place not just for GRUDEN but others as well. I had my doubts at first about Currie but the more info I get the more I like him. Very focused and organized. Sees things from different angles than most and uses lots of resources. I have been very impressed by what I have heard and think this program is in good hands

And you expect the coach to be named this week? And who would that be? No coach in the country at a decent school that is coaching this season would want it announced before next Sunday
 
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I personally know 3 players in TN high schools (Beech, etc) who aren't going to the VOLS if they don't make a big hire, go get the Grude or someone of that caliber or forget about the VOLS for a generation, a sad fact, but the facts speak loudly
 
It's always a pleasure to see Atlanta Vol join us, he's a good dude.

Two of his statements in particular intrigued me. First, this:

There is a sense of urgency to get this done as quickly as possible but you can’t force someone’s hand purely with $$$. If it were that easy we would have someone already.

I've been of the position that the deal was done last Wednesday afternoon/evening ... but this line from AV gives me pause.

It could be read in a way that supports my belief, like this: "There is a sense of urgency to get [the announcement] done as quickly as possible but you can't force someone's hand purely with $$$. If it were that easy we would have someone [announced] already."

But the most simple and straight-forward reading says that it's the deal, not the announcement, AV is talking about.

And if that's the case, I was certainly wrong in my belief a deal was signed last Wed.

Summary: I'm a bit less sure "we got him" now than I was before AV's latest revelations.

...

And then there's this second insight:

There is a clear plan and a clear plan beyond that first plan....

So this screams to me Plan A--Gruden and Plan B--Patterson (or insert your favorite other guess).

But then, I got to thinking...it could be on a different paradigm than that. What if it is Plan A--Gruden announced next Monday, Plan B--Gruden announced after SEC CG. Or Plan A--Gruden+Tee&Dale, Plan B--Gruden+__[insert other OC/DC names]__.

So this second revelation, after the step back from the first, above, neither thrills nor concerns me. It's just too vague to have any meaning for me. Just mildly reassuring that there is a Plan B (but isn't there always a Plan B, among capable people?).

...

So bottom line: I always enjoy an AV visit, and appreciate him for what he's done for folks here on the board. Also appreciate his news, even if it's sometimes about as easy to interpret as the Voynich Manuscript.

My hat's off to you, AV, you're All-Vol. :hi:
 
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1) I don't post and I don't follow, I do spend a little money on the hill
2) If the powers that be don't spend a few dimes to make a splash, I quit
3) If it ain't the Grude, who's it gonna be, give us a clue
4) Who else u gonna get, or I quit

a well thought out, four point list
 
For those asking about Knuck....

I texted him. He said he can’t get on this thread for some reason, so he thinks he might be banned.
 
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What a big day for me. I found out my wife is pregnant with our first child. Couldn’t have received more exciting news!!!

It's the end of the world as you know it, but you'll be fine.

Congrats! It's a beautiful and amazing ride....(unlike these stinking Gruden threads)
 
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think plan b could be about assistants?
maybe an assistant the AD really doesn't want but will happen if they can't get who they want as assistant on plan a.

Remember orange pill was saying Tee was looking at other offers and he didn't know who the replacement would be. Could be this.
 
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I absolutely agree. And we know Kelly isn't an option so if it's announced this week I can't see it being anyone but Gruden. No way you make it a distraction for kids at another school. JMO

I honestly have a hard time wrapping my head around a coach out there that names have been brought up that would be a good long haul hire for us..
 
What was AVs news this morning? Missed it and don't feel like scurrying through to find it lol
 
I’ve been told by each second and third hand source that this is so much different than 2012 and to stop worrying. I have a hard time trusting people that I do not know, so I understand everyone skeptiscm here. However, I choose to believe I am being told accurate and honest information.

Let's see here...

Official Grumor Template 2017:

(Choose an opening line)
1. “I’m not an insider or trying to get E-cred here”
2. “I’ve been a member since (min. 5 years) and don’t post often but”

(Choose Source)
1. “My (Relative) who is a well connected and established business person”
2. “A well respected poster on tos”
3. “A source close to the program”

(Choose meeting site)
1. Tampa
2. Cherokee CC
3. Charlotte

(Done deal?)
1. Yes
2. Yes but working out final details
3. Offer is on the table, Gruden still mulling

(Time of presser?)
1. Today
2. Tomorrow
3. After Vanderbilt

(Out/safety net)
1. Something happens on the plan
2. Few control issues gruden wasn’t ok with.
3. Beverly/curry drops the ball on it.
4. Power players pulls the offer

(Closing statement)
1. Just passing along info from a very trusted source
2. I have no reason to lie or troll.
3. This is much different than 2012
4. Soon.

Go Vols.

There we go
 
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Look I'm going to say this. There is a plan in place not just for GRUDEN but others as well. I had my doubts at first about Currie but the more info I get the more I like him. Very focused and organized. Sees things from different angles than most and uses lots of resources. I have been very impressed by what I have heard and think this program is in good hands

Enough of this charade
 
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Thanks everyone for the kind words and encouragement!! My wife and I are overjoyed. Definitely helped waking up after that LSU game.

For the boys out there playing they sure did play as hard as they knew how. Just way overmatched with all of our injuries, lack of development and distractions and deciding to play during the monsoon which was crazy imo.

Yes we spoke last night. He has trusted people in the university who he believes and is fully confident. I believe him as I believe my chattanooga guys. My most trusted guy said this week and has not wavered from it. Exile believes this week as well. Interestingly DTO came in and said the same.

However, if AV was to say otherwise then something has happened that no one is aware of or our booster/university connections are giving out bad info. I do not see this many trusted people (at least in my case) purposely giving out wrong and misleading info. These are successful business men with familes and aren’t teenage trolls. Some are family friends from years.

I’ve been told by each second and third hand source that this is so much different than 2012 and to stop worrying. I have a hard time trusting people that I do not know, so I understand everyone skeptiscm here. However, I choose to believe I am being told accurate and honest information.

Thanks legendary! After 2012, I don't really believe a lot I see on here....you know after being burnt one time before and all. But for some reason there are 2 people that I keep up with and trust what they say, Tuesday and utvolinexile. Every time is see his big grin emoji, I feel a little better. I may be gullible and I may be stupid but right now I choose to believe we have our man.
 
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It's always a pleasure to see Atlanta Vol join us, he's a good dude.

Two of his statements in particular intrigued me. First, this:



I've been of the position that the deal was done last Wednesday afternoon/evening ... but this line from AV gives me pause.

It could be read in a way that supports my belief, like this: "There is a sense of urgency to get [the announcement] done as quickly as possible but you can't force someone's hand purely with $$$. If it were that easy we would have someone [announced] already."

But the most simple and straight-forward reading says that it's the deal, not the announcement, AV is talking about.

And if that's the case, I was certainly wrong in my belief a deal was signed last Wed.

Summary: I'm a bit less sure "we got him" now than I was before AV's latest revelations.

...

And then there's this second insight:



So this screams to me Plan A--Gruden and Plan B--Patterson (or insert your favorite other guess).

But then, I got to thinking...it could be on a different paradigm than that. What if it is Plan A--Gruden announced next Monday, Plan B--Gruden announced after SEC CG. Or Plan A--Gruden+Tee&Dale, Plan B--Gruden+__[insert other OC/DC names]__.

So this second revelation, after the step back from the first, above, neither thrills nor concerns me. It's just too vague to have any meaning for me. Just mildly reassuring that there is a Plan B (but isn't there always a Plan B, among capable people?).

...

So bottom line: I always enjoy an AV visit, and appreciate him for what he's done for folks here on the board. Also appreciate his news, even if it's sometimes about as easy to interpret as the Voynich Manuscript.

My hat's off to you, AV, you're All-Vol. :hi:

Your "different paradigm" thoughts mirror mine.
 
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Rock star status may turn into Kiffin status. That’s exactly why it doesn’t make sense to not come out and make some kind of statement.

We will also be an even further laughing stock if this or another splash hire isn't made. Having to recruit to a laughing stock is going to be a lot of fun for any B list hires.
 
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