Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLII

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Kingston Vol said:
Maybe so. It just seems to me that if it were a "done deal", and he knew he was taking the job, he'd want to do everything he could to talk it up. To really sell the job and his decision.
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No way he would do that while Butch is still employed. I'm sure it's in the code book of the FFCA.
 
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Had some friends ask me earlier what I honestly thought about the Gruden situation and I told them that getting Gruden would be great for UT, but I just can't stop thinking about what happened around here in 2012.

Now, I'm not being a negagrude, I'm just saying if he doesn't come this time and the insiders come back and say it was the AD or some other excuse, they may want to go into hiding. Because the hype this time around is 10X what it was in 2012, and they won't be able to talk out of it.

It's crazy, when you have people asking you at work about this and that they heard Gruden this and that. It almost to the point unles they march Gruden out there, some fans are gonna be really upset.

I hope this doesn't turn into the Biggest Troll job of all time, even if it was intended that way or not.

At the end of the day, we all just want UT to win Championships, CONFERENCE AND NATIONAL

GBO

Oh and MANY prayers to Rockytop16
 
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Just listened to the JG interview. How can anyone take anything from that? How's he suppose to answer? He has a job, and a contract. The job being inquired about doesn't have a vacancy. It was about as a political answer as it gets.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Yeah, if you add enough qualifiers to it, there is no precedent. But that's disengenuous. There is a precedent for successful NFL coaches not being successful in CFB. That's not really arguable unless you want to shift the goalposts.





The only disagreement I have here is the last sentence, really. Yeah, NFL coaches work a lot, but they do have a lot more time in the offseason they can spend away from their job. College coaches are basically always on the clock in some way or another.

Even when they get some vacation time away with the family, they've gotta pick up the phone if a 5* or a key commit calls. Even during dead periods, they've gotta do evaluations of recruits and keep half an eye on the kids on campus.

NFL coaches have to do evaluations for the draft and all, but they've got a GM sharing that load and times during the offseason when they can get away uninterrupted for a while at least.



The academic ineligibility thing was just an example of some of the things NFL coaches don't have to deal with that college coaches do. My ultimate point this whole time has been that no amount of NFL success can really guarantee college success because of the many small differences between the two.

I think Gruden would be a good coach as well. I'm not sure he'll be the Saban killer many hype him up as, but I don't doubt he'd recruit really well for us, put together a good staff, and develop talent much better than we've seen in a while.

If he's gonna be as good as many here are hyping him up to be though, we'd need to surround him with a crazy large support staff like Bama has done with Saban.



My bad I thought your post had an aggressive slant to it. Tone can be hard to nail over the internet.
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Yeah, internet and texting both suck for determining someone's tone.

I'm not guaranteeing he would win NCs, but I think we would be competing at the highest level. I disagree about moving the goalposts or me being disingenuous. Grudens situation is unique. There really is no precedent for it and you can't really compare him to a Mike Sherman (no personality) type. There's never been a super bowl winning coach transition to college. That's a pretty distinct qualifier within itself, without even mentioning the celebrity aspect of it.

Part of why I think saban is killing it at bama is because of the national perception of him when he came there. Perception becomes reality. Half the battle is recruiting and Gruden would KILL it on name alone the first couple years.

Imo it's all a mute point because I really don't think he comes here.

Frost
Taggert
Mullen
Brohm ( I know, I know, I just think he has that it factor)
Campbell
Morris
Norvell

All better than we have now.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Maybe so. It just seems to me that if it were a "done deal", and he knew he was taking the job, he'd want to do everything he could to talk it up. To really sell the job and his decision.
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I didn't get a good feeling about the interview but now is definitely not the time to be trying to sell the job that isn't open yet
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I wouldn't say sure thing but I think he handled all the questions in a very professional manner. I understand a lot of people want him to drop some hint if he is going to be back in coaching in the near future but that's not the way this is supposed to work. No AD or NFL owner wants to be embarrassed because he couldn't close the deal so any deal has to get worked out in super secret private discussions.

In my view that interview was entirely consistent with JG being introduced Sunday as our new football coach. That's not necessarily what is going to happen but who knows. The interview doesn't inform that answer one way or the other. Anyone and everyone involved in something like this has to say the right things at the right time so as not to let the cat out of the bag too early. jmo.
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Yeah, basically hard to tell anything one way or the other from that interview.
 
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I keep saying it but its true. Rick Barnes is the polar opposite of Butch. So refreshing to hear him talk to the media.
 
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Something to keep an eye on: Hubbs said yesterday on the radio that Dave Doeren doesn't get along at all with the AD at NC State. I don't know if I'd be interested in him here but he could be a candidate at Ole Miss or Arkansas.
 
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Guys, what did you expect, JG to sing Rocky Top?

He's rumored to be a candidate for UT and Tampa, I didn't hear any mention of the Bucs either.

Didn't move the needle either way for me.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
Guys, what did you expect, JG to sing Rocky Top?

He's rumored to be a candidate for UT and Tampa, I didn't hear any mention of the Bucs either.

Didn't move the needle either way for me.
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How awesome would it be to see him leading the team through the T as the band plays rocky top?
 
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