Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLII

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Kingston Vol said:
Not sure this has been posted yet, but if you share the view I do that Thamel has a good relationship with Currie, this feels like a Mullen puff piece (which he deserves). Interesting too with the reports from Trey Wallace that we have Mullen in our backpocket and Hubbs saying Currie will work a deal with one coach while he allows everyone else to focus on another.

Dan Mullen turned MSU from punchline to prominence; will he stay?
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Perfect setup for Sexton to get Mullen a nice raise at MSU. Unless they just go all-in for the money, it's hard to see Megan Mullen being eager to trade Starkville for Knoxville. The last three coaches' wives have been public about the stress on their family--specifically how hard it was on their kids-- and that seems like it could be a deterrent for the Mullens.

IMO, the key things are-- how ambitious is Dan Mullen, really? And where does UT think he is on the risk-reward spectrum? If it's going to take $6M or more-- plus buyout-- to lure Mullen to UT, is he worth the premium? Or do other coaches have the same, or more, upside for less?
 
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volinbama256 said:
Two years before you can see that he is not the answer... the first season and recruiting class will be a push, but by the end of the second year when we do not see the results starting to take shape and our recruiting class is behind the usual suspects again, folks will see he is more of the same...just a little better with X's and O's
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Makes sense.
 
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LA Vol said:
Perfect setup for Sexton to get Mullen a nice raise at MSU. Unless they just go all-in for the money, it's hard to see Megan Mullen being eager to trade Starkville for Knoxville. The last three coaches' wives have been public about the stress on their family--specifically how hard it was on their kids-- and that seems like it could be a deterrent for the Mullens.

IMO, the key things are-- how ambitious is Dan Mullen, really? And where does UT think he is on the risk-reward spectrum? If it's going to take $6M or more-- plus buyout-- to lure Mullen to UT, is he worth the premium? Or do other coaches have the same, or more, upside for less?
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I know Sexton tries to get his guys raises whenever possible, but I do believe Mullen was a little peeved to not get more attention for the Florida and Georgia jobs when they came open. I'm not saying he's dying to get out of there but he's certainly open to the idea.

It would not surprise me at all if Currie is working with Sexton behind the scenes to get Mullen while also allowing Sexton time to find Butch another job.
 
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volinbama256 said:
Cade Mays is the most important part of the class by a mile and for several reasons... mainly our O line needs another Trey.
I know these are just kids, but I have to agree with Jacket on this one, if we get a good upgrade of a coach and Cade still goes to GA, have fun in ATL, you know what you are signing up for. Don't think you will be very welcomed in Knoxville moving forward. You will have no problem getting to the NFL at UT, so don't use that as an excuse.
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Just the thought of having to watch Cade Mays road grade our DL for the next 3-4 years is making me have all sorts of bad feelings..
 
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BleedorangeinGA said:
For the record, I still think it's going to be Dan Mullen.

Also, follow Pete Thamel articles. He is very close with Currie. I think the AD narrative will be projected through Thamel.

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Pete was very close to urban while he was at UF so likely the same with Mullen. Mullen making his play for $$ and upgrade
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Wow! It is hard to believe that we can’t get the best players who grew up Tennessee fans to come to Tennessee. Really let you in on the sad state of affairs with our program. 2017 and 2018 in-state classes were the ones we were pointing to that would really bring us back to the elite in the country, and instead they are all going to other programs. Please hire Gruden ASAP!
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Cade Mays is the one who looks bad here.

Who runs to a rival school when your father is a VFL and you've been committed for two years? Tee Higgins just grew up near Knoxville. Cade is both a legacy and a local product.

This is a weak move IMO. He's running away from the challenge of helping return Tennessee back to prominence just so he can jump on the Georgia bandwagon. We're better off without someone like this who runs away from adversity.
 
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volinbama256 said:
Cade Mays is the most important part of the class by a mile and for several reasons... mainly our O line needs another Trey.
I know these are just kids, but I have to agree with Jacket on this one, if we get a good upgrade of a coach and Cade still goes to GA, have fun in ATL, you know what you are signing up for. Don't think you will be very welcomed in Knoxville moving forward. You will have no problem getting to the NFL at UT, so don't use that as an excuse.
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He's going to Georgia cause he's weak. As you said, a great player will make it to the NFL regardless of where he is. But this deal with Cade Mays shows his character. I'm typically not hard on kids who decide to not go to Tennessee. I didn't attack Tee Higgins last year when he chose Clemson.

But this deal with Cade Mays is different. He isn't just a local kid, he's also the son of a VFL. He has been committed for over 2 years and was one of the most vocal peer recruiters that put this class together. You would think this would be the one kid that is more loyal to the program than to the current staff or how things look.

Plus the fact he wants to go to a rival like Georgia instead that is riding high this year makes him look even weaker.

Cade Mays = frontrunner
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I know Sexton tries to get his guys raises whenever possible, but I do believe Mullen was a little peeved to not get more attention for the Florida and Georgia jobs when they came open. I'm not saying he's dying to get out of there but he's certainly open to the idea.

It would not surprise me at all if Currie is working with Sexton behind the scenes to get Mullen while also allowing Sexton time to find Butch another job.
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You may be right. I'm not counting Mullen out, but I think a few things have caused him to slip down our board.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
One thing that scares me a little about Mullen is there is a little smoke around him and possible NCAA issues.
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I'm not really concerned here.

1) Before you hire any coach you call the NCAA and ask them exactly what they have.

2) the NCAA has proven they are very inconsistent when punishing programs. If UNC didn't get busted MSU will be fine.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I'm not really concerned here.

1) Before you hire any coach you call the NCAA and ask them exactly what they have.

2) the NCAA has proven they are very inconsistent when punishing programs. If UNC didn't get busted MSU will be fine.
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Big difference in UNC basketball and MSU football.
 
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LA Vol said:
You may be right. I'm not counting Mullen out, but I think a few things have caused him to slip down our board.
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I think he should be near the top but you know better than I.

I also wouldn't be surprised if we have a deal with Frost or Taggart.
 
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