If Gruden says no....

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If Gruden says no, will the level of anxiety/hate/frustration be higher or lower than when Kif bolted in the middle of the night?
 
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thegreatwhite1 said:
If Gruden says no, will the level of anxiety/hate/frustration be higher or lower than when Kif bolted in the middle of the night?
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This question belongs in the Gruden thread...

But I think it would be lower. Even the most confident Grudenites have that little voice in the back of their head saying it might not happen. The Kiffin thing was completely unexpected.
 
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Great, another Gruden thread. He is not coming here, so the only people that will be mad/ suprised are the idiots that thought he was. In order to avoid feeling like that, folks should try to be not stupid.
 
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thegreatwhite1 said:
If Gruden says no, will the level of anxiety/hate/frustration be higher or lower than when Kif bolted in the middle of the night?
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Let's be logical about this Gruden issue.

(1) We would have to pay bUTch and his staff off to get rid of them. I have heard estimates of $9,000,000 for that.
(2) Then we would have to pay Gruden in the neighborhood of $10,000,000 to accept the job.
(3) Then Gruden would want the A.D. to support his selection of O.C., D.C. & his assistants. These would not come at a cheap price either. Gruden would bring in top notch assistants and coordinators....


From a financial standpoint, this is close to $25,000,000 to get this accomplished.

Who among us really, really believes that this will actually happen?????
 
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As excited as I am about the possibility of Gruden to the Hill, it would be stupid not to be emotionally prepared for a no.
 
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Compared to the stadium rennovation that’s chump change.

We’re firing Butch period.

And you’re going to have to pay any competent coach and staff many millions... so the incremental cost for Gruden over x coach is only a few extra million per year... which would prove to provide an exceedingly positive return on investment.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Let's be logical about this Gruden issue.

(1) We would have to pay bUTch and his staff off to get rid of them. I have heard estimates of $9,000,000 for that.
(2) Then we would have to pay Gruden in the neighborhood of $10,000,000 to accept the job.
(3) Then Gruden would want the A.D. to support his selection of O.C., D.C. & his assistants. These would not come at a cheap price either. Gruden would bring in top notch assistants and coordinators....


From a financial standpoint, this is close to $25,000,000 to get this accomplished.

Who among us really, really believes that this will actually happen?????
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If they'll spend almost 400 million for stadium upgrades, they shouldn't have any qualms about spending a fraction of that on the coach bringing the fans to the stadium.
 
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volfannbama said:
Great, another Gruden thread. He is not coming here, so the only people that will be mad/ suprised are the idiots that thought he was. In order to avoid feeling like that, folks should try to be not stupid.
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Will you eat crow if Gruden is hired?

It’s a much bigger possibility than it was in 2012.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Let's be logical about this Gruden issue.

(1) We would have to pay bUTch and his staff off to get rid of them. I have heard estimates of $9,000,000 for that.
(2) Then we would have to pay Gruden in the neighborhood of $10,000,000 to accept the job.
(3) Then Gruden would want the A.D. to support his selection of O.C., D.C. & his assistants. These would not come at a cheap price either. Gruden would bring in top notch assistants and coordinators....


From a financial standpoint, this is close to $25,000,000 to get this accomplished.

Who among us really, really believes that this will actually happen?????
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But we will pay $340,000,000 for a stadium update. I would rather have a good team than a pretty stadium.
 
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volfannbama said:
Great, another Gruden thread. He is not coming here, so the only people that will be mad/ suprised are the idiots that thought he was. In order to avoid feeling like that, folks should try to be not stupid.
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Why you mad though?
 
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volfannbama said:
Great, another Gruden thread. He is not coming here, so the only people that will be mad/ suprised are the idiots that thought he was. In order to avoid feeling like that, folks should try to be not stupid.
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Unnecessarily hostile. I've always thought much higher of you than what this post exhibits.
 
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TheDeeble said:
If they'll spend almost 400 million for stadium upgrades, they shouldn't have any qualms about spending a fraction of that on the coach bringing the fans to the stadium.
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I just wrote almost the same thing. I don't get it. Get the Coach that TN needs
 
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Rudy123 said:
Let's be logical about this Gruden issue.

(1) We would have to pay bUTch and his staff off to get rid of them. I have heard estimates of $9,000,000 for that.
(2) Then we would have to pay Gruden in the neighborhood of $10,000,000 to accept the job.
(3) Then Gruden would want the A.D. to support his selection of O.C., D.C. & his assistants. These would not come at a cheap price either. Gruden would bring in top notch assistants and coordinators....


From a financial standpoint, this is close to $25,000,000 to get this accomplished.

Who among us really, really believes that this will actually happen?????
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I heard around $12M to get rid of Butch. I think we will pay up the low $5M for his replacement, but I just don't believe that $10M figure thrown out for Gruden. That is Saban money. If you look back at what Bama paid Saban back in 2007 ($4M) and adjusted for inflation = $4.76M. I would say Saban's record when he was hired at Bama was more impressive than Gruden's is now. Do you disagree?
 
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TheDeeble said:
If they'll spend almost 400 million for stadium upgrades, they shouldn't have any qualms about spending a fraction of that on the coach bringing the fans to the stadium.
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Not the best comparison. The $340m is an infrastructure project implemented over multiple phases and will be around/used for decades. Money for capital improvements is a much easier sell to boosters than bringing in a new coach/paying the old one to leave. It's a highly inexact science.

The $25m is a one-time cash hit that may or may not work, with $9m of that going towards paying people not to coach. A hire of Gruden would instantaneously energize the fanbase, but he'd find himself on the hot seat pretty quickly if there weren't big improvements by year 2.

Contrary to popular belief, this admin is not cheap. Incompetent yes, cheap no.
 
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thegreatwhite1 said:
If Gruden says no, will the level of anxiety/hate/frustration be higher or lower than when Kif bolted in the middle of the night?
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No because that means we are gonna go all out to get Dan Mullen. Which would be a home run hire for us.
 
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One time when I was like 6 years old, I worked myself into thinking I was gonna get a puppy, even though my parents repeatedly told me no.

It will be something like that around here.
 
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volfannbama said:
Great, another Gruden thread. He is not coming here, so the only people that will be mad/ suprised are the idiots that thought he was. In order to avoid feeling like that, folks should try to be not stupid.
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you mad bro?
 
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If Gruden says no thanks then okay; No hard feelings. The man likes what he's doing and wants to continue.
I personally respect that.
That scenario is nothing compared to what that slimy, low-life, lying creature named Kiffen did to UT. Nothing will ever atone for leaving the program the way he did. Sneaking out of town with his middle finger in the air and then trying to sway the best UT commits over to USC.
The man is pond scum.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Will you eat crow if Gruden is hired?

It’s a much bigger possibility than it was in 2012.
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Im not worried about that. He isnt coming here. I get that its difficult when you want to believe something so bad, not to take everything as a sign to point to it being true. Its cool, its just not true.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Let's be logical about this Gruden issue.

(1) We would have to pay bUTch and his staff off to get rid of them. I have heard estimates of $9,000,000 for that.
(2) Then we would have to pay Gruden in the neighborhood of $10,000,000 to accept the job.
(3) Then Gruden would want the A.D. to support his selection of O.C., D.C. & his assistants. These would not come at a cheap price either. Gruden would bring in top notch assistants and coordinators....


From a financial standpoint, this is close to $25,000,000 to get this accomplished.

Who among us really, really believes that this will actually happen?????
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Assuming your numbers about Butch's buyout are correct (I personally am fairly ignorant to his contract details) then firing Butch and bringing in a new staff will probably run us somewhere in the $15-18 million range anyway.
 
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Currie has to be open and honest about this, if not on the front end then on the back end. It's not about owing the fans an explanation. It's about restoring some confidence that UTAD is actually trying to field a championship caliber football program that can and will compete with anyone, including Bama, when it comes to monetary resources. If no is the answer, Currie needs to tell us that he went to Gruden first and offered him every last dollar and measure of control that the University can muster and then he went back and offered him more. If they trot some Google coach out there and try to act like that was their first choice, it's going to be ugly.
 
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