Official Jon Gruden Thread XXIX

[UT_King]

Semantics, it was still a line and it changed when he mentioned it would. Quit splitting hairs and admit you are wrong.

If you think the website with these coaching odds and Vegas betting are one in the same, then you don't know a lot about gambling.

 

[NickTwentyThree]

I agree completely with everything you just posted ... the Big question here for me, is NO ONE has shown me YET that it is Ergen that is behind the hiring of Gruden..

If it is him... I am 99.9% sure it gets done.... but at this present time I don't have enough evidence to say that it is....

By the way if it's not, that does NOT say it will not happen... just more sure with Ergen

I agree, there's no HARD evidence that Ergen is completely on board and pushing the Gruden deal but I think if you piece everything together it almost has to be the case. The big boosters met on Sunday... obviously about the stadium reno but of course about the HC position as well. We know that. Monday morning anybody with insider info/ties (i.e. Swain) got super excited about donors willing to break the bank to get Gruden. They're not making these big decisions without money and money isn't making these decisions based off of a half-assed head coach being in place or the "chances" of landing Gruden. I'm with the Beav... the deal is done, we just have to let it play out and be patient. Enjoy the "Busch Gardens" roller coaster that is the next few weeks... no doubt we'll all be thrilled soon...

Keep Calm & Grude On folks :rock:

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

Ok. A couple of things

1. Based on behaviour I am now thinking that The Beaver is a Troll

2. I like Nickelback.

Before you start stoning me and tar/feather.....

I still believe that Gruden is coming. Soon.

I'm not sure which makes you the braver person on this board.
Calling beaver a troll or admitting you like Nickelback.

 

[Coastypop]

Me either. I would agree with Anderson. Ergen's money seems to be heavily tied to stock so he's not very liquid. Also agree about donations not telling the whole story. He's a unique character for sure...

Not important if we get Gruden... but was just a question I had...... But I lean more to Anderson than I do Ergen

 

[TN Outlaw]

I think Beaver is a creation of AtlantaVol.

Imaginary beaver?

Its possible

 

[WhiteRhino]

If you think the website with these coaching odds and Vegas betting are one in the same, then you don't know a lot about gambling.

Reference my other post where I stated I DONT BET!

 

[tbones0711]

Can someone explain why every sports writer and sports talk radio host in Knoxville is so scared to say anything anti Butch ? Lets really look at this, I live in Nashville and here thay all say Butch has no chance of coming back and they hear that info from sources around the program and then you get the oppsite from Knoxville. It is almost like they are so fearful of the powers that be they are scared to say what they think or know.

I get the part of UT being the only show in town and job security and all that but when everybody else in the country and I mean everybody is saying Butch is gone are they that scared or what?

If UT keeps Jones for another year we will be the laughing stock of every major sports media outlet in the country and what I think hurts the most is once again we will give the A**WHIPS at ESPN more ammo the use against us and our state.( I remember the "Trailor Park Frenzy" quite well as well as the UCONN Pat dust ups that in large part was perpetuated by them.)

The Haslams time has past and the power players seem to be changing. I can only hope that we can get back to the point when it was fun to watch us play and we had a chance everytime we stepped on the field. It is sad the kids in their early 20's have no idea what huge fun being a VOL fan really is.

its time thistime

Haslam is lucky that the Browns have such a loyal fanbase. We need to find a way to keep his nose out of UT football but he can ruin a journalist's career so he has a way of misdirecting info. It's like he's saying to the fans...f+*k you, I'm more important thus he misses the point entirely. It's the fans that generate the huge revenue. Like Cleveland,( I've lived close by,Sandusky), UT fans are just as loyal. I've heard it both ways. He's in on Gruden and then he's not. Some inside know the truth as to the degree of in-house fighting amongst the bigger boosters. One day they may even write a book about it.

A nation divided will not stand. UT took a staggering blow with AD Hamilton. I recall reading once the athletic dept. was $20 mil in the red after Fulmer leaving and combined with Dooley firing,etc....So one can't blame them for being cautious but being business savvy seems to be missing. Michigan should be an example UT could use based on the Harbaugh hire. He had 9-10 former NFL assistants on his staff. I don't know the fiqures other than Harbaugh's annual salary around $7.5 so you could expect about the same if UT hires Gruden and a good staff.

The Gruden hire would likely set a season ticket sales record right off the bat and the university could raise the price $100 without much adverse reaction because most fans would accept the reasoning behind the increase. The hire would pay for itself and that's a no-brainer. It would unite the fanbase to an extent far more than any other hire, IMO. Without much info, I very much think he is coming to UT. It's the most sensible option.

 

[UT_King]

Ok guys it’s not based on Vegas neither site that had odds out was based in Vegas!! We freaking get it!! However these sites were both similar with the odds on landing Gruden, and that is due to high betting from Tennessee fans! When people say “Vegas” odds they just say that because Vegas is associated with odds makers and betting, so if we on a message board make a mistake and accidentally say Vegas odds DEAL WITH IT!! FYI 2 reputable betting sites had identical odds so it doesn’t matter if it’s freaking Vegas or not!!

 

[bigmac]

Booooooooooo for quoting Heather 😁

At least she is hot! IMO

 

[VFLnSFD]

Not at all... but also know if UT loses one sponsor, they would have zero difficulty replacing them with another.... The money that can put the type of pressure that Beaver is suggesting imho, would need to be irreplaceable money to have that type of impact

What I'm saying, though, is that it is impossible for us to know the value of that sponsorship. All I know is that I've seen a tidal wave increase in the dish logo over the last 5-7 years. It is now on literally everything. That's a sponsor that wouldn't be easy to replace. But I don't know if the actual money exchanged is congruent with the number of times we see the logo. It could be that the money is significantly higher than one would think. Some people want their names on a building. Some want their business to be associated.

 

[tha truth]

On a side note, when did the term "throwing shade" come about? Because I want to go back in time and kill that person. The term doesn't even make sense.

Why are you throwing shade?

 

[Coastypop]

I agree, there's no HARD evidence that Ergen is completely on board and pushing the Gruden deal but I think if you piece everything together it almost has to be the case. The big boosters met on Sunday... obviously about the stadium reno but of course about the HC position as well. We know that. Monday morning anybody with insider info/ties (i.e. Swain) got super excited about donors willing to break the bank to get Gruden. They're not making these big decisions without money and money isn't making these decisions based off of a half-assed head coach being in place or the "chances" of landing Gruden. I'm with the Beav... the deal is done, we just have to let it play out and be patient. Enjoy the "Busch Gardens" roller coaster that is the next few weeks... no doubt we'll all be thrilled soon...

Keep Calm & Grude On folks :rock:

I am Very calm..... Have been here all the time.... but I did not check my brain at the door when I came in

 

[steve328]

Y’all need to delete any reference to his potential name. It’s the right thing to do.

Warming up to the idea of you being a mod. :good!:

 

[Behr]

100% true, those odds mean jack.

Actually I believe there is a conflict of interests with those NON-vegas betting odds and a certain poster on this site.

I personally wouldn't say they mean nothing.


How's that?

 

[CNeagleVolFan]

GTFO with your lame a** Donald Trump gif. I’m not wrong!! You come in here and dispute everyone and it’s ridiculous!! So just leave this freaking thread if you have that big of a problem!!

 

[VFL1010]

Is this season over yet?

 

[WhiteRhino]

So show me where he did not say the line would move and by how much. Go ahead, I'll wait.

 

[UTK-PROMBA2014]

Is this season over yet?

Soon

 

[CNeagleVolFan]

So show me where he did not say the line would move and by how much. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Yeah and show me where what I said was wrong?

 

[Squints]

Not at all... but also know if UT loses one sponsor, they would have zero difficulty replacing them with another.... The money that can put the type of pressure that Beaver is suggesting imho, would need to be irreplaceable money to have that type of impact

Yeah, I know dozens of people worth 14+ B. We meet for martinis and beers twice a week.

There aren't many institutions with the finanacial backing power that UT has, sans some Ivy Leaguers, Texas and a few others. It would be disingenuous to believe otherwise.

 

[SHOWOFF]

Imaginary beaver?

Its possible

Isn't that the same as an imaginary girlfriend?

 

[CNeagleVolFan]

All trolls just gtfo!!!

 

[LakeMaryFLVol]

It's funny the Nega Grudes come on this thread just to say he's not coming. Well ask any of them WHY?. Most have not much to say other than he has it made at MNF and he has Gruden QB Camp Oh and could coach in the NFL.

About 80% or better have no clue about whats going on at ESPN and other places in NFL. For those nay sayers I'd like to try to help you understand why he would come to UT.

1. ESPN is going broke
2. NFL is no longer watched by 1,000's cause the POS in the NFL are not greatful to the Great American Flag what it stands for and those who died for it.
3. Gruden is not having a QB Camp this year its already been waxed by ESPN due to money.
4. MNF is leaving ESPN to a diff network (Again ESPN) is going broke.
5. Cindy is from UT
6. Jon's Son goes to UT.
7 Cindy wants to move back to Tn
8. The Gruden family just bought a freaking huge house in knoxville thats not for just his son.
9 Jon said UT was his Dream Job
10. It didn't happen in 2012 cause of several reasons
10 A. Timing wasn't right
10 B. Jon had just signed a new MNF contract.
10 C. Haslam was in the way.
10 D. The money wasn't there for the Assistants.
10 E. AD at the time wouldn't give Jon the Control he wanted.
11. It's Freaking Tennessee that's why
12. This time Charlie Ergen has been working for 5 years gainnning more and more money, backing, lining up boosters, and getting ready to push the Haslams out so they stop making UT the Knoxville Browns.
13. He's Chucky.
14. He's been to the NFL already
15. The man lives and breathes UT, Hell he even has orange hair.
16 AGAIN IT"S TENNESSEE
17. TENNESSEE is the only college he would coach.
18. Unlike 2008, 2012 Gruden has not denied it one time this time and Grumors are everywhere, If he didn't want it to happen he would have already stopped the Grumors and said he didn't want the job.
19. Gruden has been in Knoxville more in the last month than he has in 5 years.
20. UTAD Plane has made several trips to Florida last couple weeks

This is all public knowledge but yet its all being kept hush hush and no one will talk about it. If I'm wrong I'm wrong I know nothing more than anyone else, but anyone can add 2 and 2

 

[ChiefTKE]

On a side note, when did the term "throwing shade" come about? Because I want to go back in time and kill that person. The term doesn't even make sense.

I just googled where it came from. Not at all what I expected. Good luck in your journey back in time.

 

[james_govols]

The odds are so low right now because of the bets from Tennessee fans.

BetOnline was on serious saying they have received so many bets that Gruden is next coach.

That means they have lowered the odds to minimize their risk.