Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLII

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#977
#977
WarMachine said:
Come on, Bass, you are flailing. There is waaaay too much evidence that people who matter are working to spend a lot of money on a good coach. There is no way we are holding on to Butch. Of course he is trying to save his job. Of course Currie is saying, sure, that's a good plan. But come 11/25, Currie is going to say, "Thank you Butch for all your hard work. Best of luck in your future endeavors."

And we are going to say good bye to an ugly era of Tennessee football.
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I don't think Butch is coming back next year. But it wouldn't surprise me with this AD. However, I will never be okay with Currie doing nothing while Butch tanks the program and allows the recruiting class to fall apart.
 
#978
#978
McGeesPub said:
I agree, it always seemed like a long shot that that was an option. I think the only plausible circumstance would have been that he wanted out so bad earlier in the season but didn't want to walk away with nothing. Now that he's here with only a couple of games left, I don't think it worked out like that.
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His buyout really isn't that big either. Especially if he's able to land another head coaching job. I'm hoping he can land somewhere making a million a year. That will save UT $3m of the $7.5m. $4.5 million to fire him is a bargain. Basically one year's salary.
 
#979
#979
WarMachine said:
What if there is a third option? Maybe this is a false dichotomy. Maybe Currie is trying to display a level of stability and professionalism that we can't appreciate.
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Regardless, he isn't helping anything by being silent. He is doing more damage actually.

And if he doesn't announce the hiring of a new coach in time, then the early signing period will be fast approaching and it will be too late for the new coach to salvage this class, even possibly Cade. Hubbs has been preaching that on the podcast for weeks. He needs to act.
 
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#980
Bassmaster_Vol said:
I don't think Butch is coming back next year. But it wouldn't surprise me with this AD. However, I will never be okay with Currie doing nothing while Butch tanks the program and allows the recruiting class to fall apart.
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#982
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JCP201 said:
Kamara is a rookie superstar in the NFL. Dobbs and Peterman both make NFL teams. Ferguson lighting it up at Memphis. Malone doing well as a receiver in NFL. Barnett and Reeves Maybin turning heads. Cam Sutton-- Chance Hall, Jalen Hurd...

How can you have a team like this and not at least win the East?
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Because Butch.Jones.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Regardless, he isn't helping anything by being silent. He is doing more damage actually.

And if he doesn't announce the hiring of a new coach in time, then the early signing period will be fast approaching and it will be too late for the new coach to salvage this class, even possibly Cade. Hubbs has been preaching that on the podcast for weeks. He needs to act.
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#985
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I don't think Butch is coming back next year. But it wouldn't surprise me with this AD. However, I will never be okay with Currie doing nothing while Butch tanks the program and allows the recruiting class to fall apart.
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You gotta give "this AD" a chance. Have you not paid attention to other programs and what happens when they fire a coach mid-season? It's FAR WORSE than what we have rite now.

Drink a beer, smoke a joint, go get some PU**Y, but for the love of God, step back from the LEDGE.
 
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JacketVol said:
Today I have reached the point where I hate Butch even more than Dooley. Can't explain it but I just wish he would take his money and leave. I know he is gone but him being here is hurting more than helping. I would rather get blown out these next three games with him gone than to have to see his stupid purple face on the sideline. He is pathetic. He has stayed long enough for me to hate him.
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I remember before the 2012 season, I looked at the numbers and said "if we stink it up this year, it's clear that he isn't our guy." And we watching the Big Orange swan-dive into the concrete.

Same thing this year. We have a roster that an average coach could have gotten to 8-4, yet somehow we're going to be 4-8.

Yet, this m@#$f@#$ is running around trying to convince people that he needs to get another year?

This has to be bs.
 
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#987
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I find it 10 times more believable that Gruden is going to coach UT next year than Butch buying another year with a song & dance about numerous injuries and a commitment to revamp the staff.

Let me take that back...I find the possibility of Gruden 100 times more likely.
 
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MetalVolunteer said:
You gotta give "this AD" a chance. Have you not paid attention to other programs and what happens when they fire a coach mid-season? It's FAR WORSE than what we have rite now.

Drink a beer, smoke a joint, go get some PU**Y, but for the love of God, step back from the LEDGE.
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Actually I remember Larry Scott winning a lot of games at Miami after being named interim. Not every interim coach does worse. In fact, a lot does better. But again, not the point. The point is Currie is making it worse by silence and inaction.

Edit: Oh, and I don't drink beer, I don't smoke, I'm married, and I am not on the ledge.
 
#991
#991
MetalVolunteer said:
You gotta give "this AD" a chance. Have you not paid attention to other programs and what happens when they fire a coach mid-season? It's FAR WORSE than what we have rite now.

Drink a beer, smoke a joint, go get some PU**Y, but for the love of God, step back from the LEDGE.
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Sage advice. :lol:
 
#992
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JCP201 said:
Kamara is a rookie superstar in the NFL. Dobbs and Peterman both make NFL teams. Ferguson lighting it up at Memphis. Malone doing well as a receiver in NFL. Barnett and Reeves Maybin turning heads. Cam Sutton-- Chance Hall, Jalen Hurd...

How can you have a team like this and not at least win the East?
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2015 was probably the year. Should have beaten UF and would have won the East. All of those guys were hurt at some point last year except for Barnett and Dobbs.
 
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#993
#993
There is zero chance butch is here beyond this season. They could pay Gruden $20mil and it would still be better financially than keeping Butch. He's done, gone, finished, caput.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Man, arguing with Bass has become worse then arguing with Bruin. Well, maybe not, but it’s close!
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I'm not arguing with anyone. I just can't understand why some of you are just okay with Currie doing nothing. He may be behind the scenes working on a huge hire like Gruden. I hope so. But his silence and inaction is making matters worse. Not sure why that's an argument, its the obvious reality.
 
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JacketVol said:
Today I have reached the point where I hate Butch even more than Dooley. Can't explain it but I just wish he would take his money and leave. I know he is gone but him being here is hurting more than helping. I would rather get blown out these next three games with him gone than to have to see his stupid purple face on the sideline. He is pathetic. He has stayed long enough for me to hate him.
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He has almost completely undone the good work he did early. He's never been a HC at a program longer than year 3 I believe until Tennessee. Here, year 3 was probably his best year. He may not know how to do the job beyond that timeframe.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Actually I remember Larry Scott winning a lot of games at Miami after being named interim. Not every interim coach does worse. In fact, a lot does better. But again, not the point. The point is Currie is making it worse by silence and inaction.

Edit: Oh, and I don't drink beer, I don't smoke, I'm married, and I am not on the ledge.
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Every situation is different. Patience...
 
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#997
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I'm not arguing with anyone. I just can't understand why some of you are just okay with Currie doing nothing. He may be behind the scenes working on a huge hire like Gruden. I hope so. But his silence and inaction is making matters worse. Not sure why that's an argument, its the obvious reality.
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Obvious for you. Not real for others. Let reality happen. It’s going to anyway.
 
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#998
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butchna said:
Obvious for you. Not real for others. Let reality happen. It’s going to anyway.
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It's not obvious that his silence is making everything worse? I don't know what to tell you then because that is clearly true.

It is what it is, huh? That good enough for you? Okay. I'd rather our AD try and keep Mays and the rest of our recruits and try and help us win a bowl game. But to each his own.
 
#999
#999
Bassmaster_Vol said:
I'm not arguing with anyone. I just can't understand why some of you are just okay with Currie doing nothing. He may be behind the scenes working on a huge hire like Gruden. I hope so. But his silence and inaction is making matters worse. Not sure why that's an argument, its the obvious reality.
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Why does he have to say something? He's not trying to appease you; he's trying to do what he thinks is right. This "I expect to hear something" attitude is crazy. It's not just about you.
 
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