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#878
I’m sure the offensive staff will be glad to hear Butch is willing to sh!tcan them for another year. Lol
 
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#881
Skizer41 said:
I can't believe Tampa bay is in play. I know it appears the Bucs may have regressed a little but it is only Koetters second year. I'm not sure they fire him this year.
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He was retained over lovey smith because of his work with QBs. Jameis has regressed.
 
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HankHill said:
He was retained over lovey smith because of his work with QBs. Jameis has regressed.
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still tough to pin all of Dirk. So many injuries in defensive made then unable to stop anyone. Jamesis is going to do Jamesis regardless but he shouldn't have played last game with the shoulder
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Saban told Bama no multiple times and even publicly said he wasn’t interested and in the end took the job. I think sometimes we read into the no too much when in reality the first one or two no’s were just Gruden angling for more. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t and isn’t interested.
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This is a very long piece but for anyone truly interested in a detailed behind the curtains view it is well worth the read.

From day 24 of Mal Moore's search:

A quiet but anxious ether hovered over the next 10 days. During this time, Moore continued to interview candidates, including coach David Cutcliffe, Tennessee’s offensive coordinator, in Birmingham. “He talked to Cutcliffe a long time,” Robertson told SDS. “An hour-and-a-half conversation. Mal was very impressed with him.”
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38 Days: How Alabama Pulled off the Great Heist of Nick Saban

A transcript of the proceedings might read like an FBI case file. Helicopters swarming. Reporters emerging from shadowy streets. Intermediaries. Rumored meetings. Faux search committees.

By the end of the odyssey, the hiring of Nick Saban at Alabama would require a private plane, a limousine company, and a driver named Francisco. Secret meetings would be held in Tuscaloosa, New York, Fort Lauderdale and a laundry room. But what happened across the 38 days between the firing of Mike Shula and the hiring of Nick Saban would prove to be the fulcrum on which Alabama football swung. “It was one bizarre event after another,” Steve Townsend, a retired special assistant to Mal Moore, recalled during a series of interviews with Saturday Down South.

For a decade, Alabama football had experienced the most tumultuous era since the unremarkable J.B. “Ears” Whitworth days of the 1950s (a time when the athletic dorm was referred to as “Ape Dorm” to underscore many of its Darwinian inhabitants). The flux from January 1997 to January 2007 included a 1-9 record against Tennessee, a 3-7 record against Auburn, a 3-7 record against LSU, and losses to a murderers row of also-rans: Kentucky, Central Florida, Louisiana Tech, Northern Illinois, and Southern Miss. A new paradigm of high turnover and NCAA sanctions had shifted the Tide from elite program to laughingstock. If anything, the Shula hire brought stability (but not wins) and by late November 2006, Alabama sat at a paltry 6-6 and was looking forward to another Shreveport-esque bowl.

Few events, if any, leading to Mike Shula’s exodus are surmountable to the Nov. 4, 2006 loss to Sylvester Croom’s Mississippi State, a defeat that sounded the proverbial death knell in the minds of many (even some dyed-in-the-wool ‘Bama fans were hoping for a loss). “The Mississippi State game tilted that whole deal in another direction,” Townsend told SDS. “Animosity had reached a boiling point.”

Yet even with the crimson-faced losses piling up, insiders suggest that if Shula could have somehow defeated Auburn on Nov. 18 his services might have been retained. Instead, Alabama lost its fifth in a row to the boys from the Plains — a school record — and on Monday, Nov. 27, ‘Bama’s Golden Boy was fired.

Mal Moore, the embattled athletic director who had overseen the Barnum-and-Bailey-like “Fran-pri-shula era” (where coaches zipped by like horses on a carousel), was forced into the breach once more. The old soldier had been lanced thrice — the untimely departure of Dennis Franchione to Texas A&M, the short and sad tenure of Mike Price, and now the doe-eyed Shula November — and was being pummeled by naysayers and members of his own flock. By November 2006, Alabama wasn’t tacking on to its legacy; Alabama was building a crypt.
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38 Days: How Alabama Pulled off the Great Heist of Nick Saban
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
still tough to pin all of Dirk. So many injuries in defensive made then unable to stop anyone. Jamesis is going to do Jamesis regardless but he shouldn't have played last game with the shoulder
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And the Martin suspension for the first 4 games made them a lot more one dimensional. JMO. Not saying they don't move on and fire their coach. I just don't think it's a sure thing.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
What is the real scoop on him? He leaving because Butch stinks or because he wanted to play for Butch?
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I have a friend that works at Georgia and he is very very confident that they are getting him. Kirby took over his recruitment.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Because he has better options with stability until we know who our coach is... I would think the right hire in time can easily pull him back
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Him giving UGA the last visit is pretty telling. That is going to be tough to swing back unless we get Gruden or another huge name.
 
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Cade’s going to do whats best for him. If he commits to UGA/Clemson in the next couple weeks then it’s over, but if he waits to see who UT hires before he signs/commits then I’m not too worried. If it’s a home run hire I think he recommits.
 
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