Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVI

[bigmac]

Rucker on with Finebaum at 330ish

 

['Boro-vol]

See this is the problem with you guys. My opinion differs so I gotta leave? Nah.

 

[bigmac]

No...but you sound like the man for the job. Let us know what your results say.

J/k

lol...how did i know you guys would say that. I wouldnt even know were to look for that info...or even if it was available.

 

['Boro-vol]

lol...how did i know you guys would say that. I wouldnt even know were to look for that info...or even if it was available.

So...you're an idea guy. Ok...go!

A good organization needs those too.

 

[BearCat204]

See this is the problem with you guys. My opinion differs so I gotta leave? Nah.

Another who has failed to read or even care about what the owner of this message board has said about participation in this thread. If you think it is all BS, then there are plenty of other threads to go to. All you are doing is trolling in here because you don't believe a word of any of this nonsense.

 

[Charlie Kelly]

I don't think you are going to get a date. To many variables

Probably not, just trying to see if my theory is correct and the finalization is happening at these meetings.

 

[knucklehead_vol]

See this is the problem with you guys. My opinion differs so I gotta leave? Nah.

Problem is so many come in and say the same old thing. Been done 1000s of times. Some are agitators. Some want a decent conversation.

 

[SobeVol]

See this is the problem with you guys. My opinion differs so I gotta leave? Nah.

Then post your opinion and stfu!
We don’t need to hear the other banter.
Most of us don’t mind differing views if they are presented as such. But the tit for tat belly aching that goes with it just clogs up the thread and comes off as juvenile whining!

 

[zydane47]

What does the “H” stand for heathen?



Edit clarification: I hope it doesn’t stand for heathen...heathen.

Herbert

 

[IN Jed]

reporting for the afternoon meltdown.

Still kind of in disbelief that this cloak and dagger stuff seems to be at the least partially true.

 

[preacherwebb]

They were cancelled because they were afraid we would only have 40 to 60k in the stands, and that we stand a good chance of losing our homecoming game.

i even qouted for context ... one of us ain't understanding the other.

 

[Zeppelin18241]

Can anyone give me a quick rundown of the latest Beaver news/new info that's been released on here the past few days. Been slammed with work...

Forever grateful ahead of time.

 

[thebjd]

So, I typed this up and when i hit "post" it was already 4 pages behind lol...

So hear me out on this and somebody who has more knowledge of the situation please correct me or fill in the pertinent info because I don't know all of the facts in the AJ Johnson thing.

Here goes...

I was listening to a radio show at lunch earlier (Basilio) and there was a caller talking about the AJ Johnson incident a few years ago. He threw out the theory that maybe Butch has some information that he would make public if he was fired disgracefully or his buyout agreement wasn't honored to let him coach out the rest of the season or something (not saying that was the agreement, just in theory).

The caller stated the fact that Butch vehemently denied having any communication with AJ Johnson in the timeline of events shortly after the incident. He then pointed out that the newspaper of record collected the phone records of Butch, AJ, etc. and found that Butch did indeed call AJ 2 minutes after the police called Butch. It was a 4 minute call and could have been a call he made at the direction of the then AD (pure speculation about calling on behalf of the AD).

His point, which at the time I actually laughed out loud to because it just seemed so out there that it couldn't be believable, was that what if this was something that Butch is holding over the AD/University in an effort to "go out as gracefully as possible." I have to say I dismissed it when I first heard it, as impossible. But I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. First it was AJ, then the supposed Mack Crowder incident, then the Hurd lies, now Kendrick... I hate "what ifs," but man, this is tearing up my brain.

What if the altercation Sunday between Butch and Currie had something to do with this. Say Currie was ready to let Butch go after losing to Kentucky and the Kendrick situation. Butch says no, you have to stand by the agreement we made after the UGA game that he gets to finish out the season or else he sings like a canary.

I don't know. I'm just ready to believe anything regarding why this clown is still here. It makes no sense that he is still trotting out there representing our Power T unless he has some kind of leverage.

Again, this is pure conjecture. And someone please set me straight if this is way off base.

Thanks!

M

Currie wasn’t around for any of the AJ stuff. I think this is pretty far fetched

 

[Hawkpilot]

We as fans have two wants in all of this.
One thing gone and a specific one to replace it...

Behind the scenes there are literally hundreds of decisions to be finalized, with several different players involved. These decisions impact a lot of money, and a lot of power. Each player is clamoring for as much as they can possibly get when all is said and done.

Quick analogy because I love how all this interlaces with my profession..I swear I talk Army more on here than anywhere else. Not sure if that's good or bad

When I'm planning a flight of aircraft to land somewhere high, hot, heavy, hostile, and dark, there are a ton of variables to solve premission, enroute, and landing to the LZ.

Time will VERY rarely cancel a mission. You can push it left or right, or change the route to get there. The route seldom matters as long as it avoids enemy detection and gets you to the right spot. The most important part of any flight...Landing. Safely getting everyone back on the ground and in the right spot to continue the next phase of the mission.

I just thought I'd share. May help explain my addiction to the content as much as the outcome. It's the journey you have to enjoy as much as getting there.

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

Quick analogy because I love how all this interlaces with my profession..I swear I talk Army more on here than anywhere else. Not sure if that's good or bad

When I'm planning a flight of aircraft to land somewhere high, hot, heavy, hostile, and dark, there are a ton of variables to solve premission, enroute, and landing to the LZ.

Time will VERY rarely cancel a mission. You can push it left or right, or change the route to get there. The route seldom matters as long as it avoids enemy detection and gets you to the right spot. The most important part of any flight...Landing. Safely getting everyone back on the ground and in the right spot to continue the next phase of the mission.

I just thought I'd share. May help explains my addiction to the content as much as the outcome. It's the journey you have to enjoy as much as getting there.

Liked :hi:

 

[HearForGrumors]

Can anyone give me a quick rundown of the latest Beaver news/new info that's been released on here the past few days. Been slammed with work...

Forever grateful ahead of time.

Essentially more of the same. A more clear picture of the struggle. It is between the boosters and the University (in some capacity).

Boosters are comprised of industry players - University is comprised of academic and institutional cogs. Not a fair fight.

Soon.

 

[james_govols]

TIFWIW....Rumor has it that Butch and Currie were found in a dark closet. They then came out of the closet....

IF YOU GET WHAT I MEAN

 

[fishing Vol]

Gruden to the Hill

That a boy!

 

[A_Vol_n_Hog_Country]

I wish our AD had this kind of resolve when Bruce Pearl was here.

 

[Hawkpilot]

That's all we have, brother. Assumptions and opinions. Some confuse information with facts and get all wigged out.

I like VN because it is a good aggregator of information and opinions. Oh, and the best use of GIFS on the interwebz.

.

 

[I_Bleed_Orange77]

Problem is so many come in and say the same old thing. Been done 1000s of times. Some are agitators. Some want a decent conversation.

It's hard to have a decent conversation when everyone is saying stfu and gtfo.

 

[VolNotInNorthCack]

Currie wasn’t around for any of the AJ stuff. I think this is pretty far fetched

Has nothing to do with Currie being there or not. It would be a major University issue. Currie just has to keep it under control (still just conjecture, not saying it's true).

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

Papa John Loses Dough: Pizza Chain Founder Loses $70 Million In Hours, Blames NFL

Unrelated to Gruden, but since it involves PM I thought I'd share. Apparently Papa Johns is not doing well and blaming the NFL.

 

[preacherwebb]

Does it matter if I want him or not?

I was questioning certain things that could possibly cause harm to our favorite University.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

you were being argumentative when i asked my question (still trying to catch up in the thread). after a while, you had calmed down, and i was thinking you're off the ledge or whatever.

now, i catch up to your response, and you didn't answer the question. why not?

 

[volforlife98]

I don't think so. As has been mentioned already, the responsibility for managing concussions is not in the purview of the HC. Now, is the coaching staff responsible for making sure the medical staff has access? Sure.

I just haven't seen any allegations that the coaching staff knew about any issues, or prevented access by medical staff.

Administrative leave for an investigation would only be appropriate in the case of an investigation into wrong doing by an individual. In this case, it is investigation into the circumstances around an alleged fact (a concussion happened) in order to determine wrongdoing by any party.

The Clay Travis article about the situation that was linked earlier in this thread specifically calls out Walt Wells for sending Kendrick back in the game.