Official Jon Gruden Thread XXV

[Volsfaninva917]

Hyams says a lot of contradictionary statements I can't stand him

He talks out of both sides for sure

 

[tastycar]

I was really proud of you.

Why, thank you! It actually did help my mental state. It may not seem like it at times, but it did.

 

[VFLnSFD]

Well, I think that was a nicely put “No” to my Facebook friend request. 😞

Seriously allvol...can you vouch for my lack of Facebook-ness?

 

[KB5252]

Everyone should be resigned to Butch being here as long as necessary. Im confident more than ever that we keep him because we have what we want.

The alternative isn't acceptable...... So I guess I'm on board!

 

[Hawkpilot]

Why would you be on on your phone if it died?

Car charger

 

[bcartervol98]

Where are you standing right now? I think this year you said you were 100% optimistic but 10-20% realistic...are you still sitting the same?

Fairly accurate assessment. The more I read the more I tend to "buy in to the possibility" but I just cant see it. I do hope though it would be a game changer. I 100% would like to have Gruden but am only 10-20% he will say yes in the end. I feel 100% Gruden is buying a home here and know definitively he has looked at some when in town for the game but as of now I think it is coincidence. A strange coincidence but a coincidence none the less. They have not exactly tried to hide this.

Honestly I do not know what to think. Not as keyed in to the AD as I was in 2012 so most of what I hear is from the booster side and media side.

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

Grude Afternoon, Grudenites!!

Oak trees...Hmm..Still pondering on that..:question:

My highest level of optimism continues..

Gruden is coming..

SOON

:shades:

 

[tastycar]

Don't plant them there. Bama fans will poison them.

Harvey Updyke, to be specific

 

[volinSmyrna]

Very rudimentary, but seems like an easy choice to me.

 

[KB5252]

The penicillin didn't work

Anybody got any Butch Be Gone we can lend Currie?

 

[jtipto10]

The penicillin didn't work

Probably clotrimazole or fluconazole, not penicillin

 

[VolFan32]

This makes sense to a degree, but it does not mention or account for the opportunity lost on other recruits. Measuring opportunity lost, if not more important than, measuring potential losses.

Getting the right coach matters more than saving a class. Look at Dooley.

 

[chargervol]

Car charger

Yes?

 

[tastycar]

Is Doyle here? What's the Grudeometer at this afternoon?

 

[jos3ywales]

Gruden leaving his awesome gig isn't favorable, however it sure is a lot of fun to speculate! We have got to have hope in something positive about VOL sports. Grude on my friends.

Gruden might not have is awesome gig next year ESPN put out a article today saying they might drop Monday Night Football

 

[HearForGrumors]

This makes sense to a degree, but it does not mention or account for the opportunity lost on other recruits. Measuring opportunity lost, if not more important than, measuring potential losses.

Correct, and I believe that would be part of that analysis. There is some opportunity cost loss by not making the move, and that's quantifiable to a degree. However, there is also an opportunity gain to a well orchestrated PR campaign and reveal.

This is the area where actuaries make their money. I don't put too much faith in those types of valuations, but common sense says that kids are not shy about jumping on the coolest new train in town.

Maybe I'm wrong and the UT decision makers are flipping coins. (Probably make the right decision 50% of the time anyways).

 

[VFLnSFD]

KidDeezy... any update on that player's meeting?

 

[DougVol]

I was with the green berets, special units battalion....
Commando airborne tactics ...
Special Tactics Unit battalion....
Yeah, it was real hush hush.
I was Agent Orange.
Special Agent Orange, yeah that was me!

 

[bcartervol98]

Haha, don’t do that. You’ll wreck people’s souls in here.

I didnt mean anything by it lol but I see what you are saying. Those that know me personally know I used to play online poker as a side job. Have final tabled a few WSOP circuit events but no huge scores. Made an extra ~$20kish a year playing part time three nights a week until the DOJ decided they should seize everyone's money...wait is the DOJ running the UT AD?

 

[kayakonthefly]

So we are back to Haslam being the problem here as I have feared? And that's why Currie hasn't made a move yet? Good lord Currie tell Big Jim to move aside. How could any AD with half a brain not jump at this opportunity?

The more I read, the more I wonder if the AD is trying to spin the last fiasco as Haslam was the problem when it really was the AD itself. Hence the Beaver, and "leak of a possible Gruden offer by the boosters." They're covering their butts this time so the AD don't have any way out of it.

 

[volfan1631]

Gruden might not have is awesome gig next year ESPN put out a article today saying they might drop Monday Night Football

Maybe they heard Gruden is going to UT and figured MNF isn't worth having without him.

 

[preacherman4vols]

Does anyone think it is unusual no recruits will be at Homecoming this weekend?

 

[Hawkpilot]

Well, I don't think it's Currie's choice. My impression is that the deal is so expansive it affects all parts of the University. At which point the decision maker is no longer one person, its the entity known as "The University of Tennessee." This would implicate the Chancellor, BOT, etc.

Some sort of consensus decision would have to be reached and Currie would have to advocate for his plan in the UT Bureaucracy. I just don't believe its as easy as Currie signing on the line. He likely doesn't have authority to cause performance of all the points of the deal.

However, the same game theory approach applies to all who have a say in the decision. It should be a win-win, if they can "not confuse a want and a need."

That's why I have been alluding it is the administration and not one person in my opinion…too much money, control, and concessions to be made

 

[Coastypop]

Is Doyle here? What's the Grudeometer at this afternoon?

Last I heard he was headed to trash can with it

 

[volinSmyrna]

Correct, and I believe that would be part of that analysis. There is some opportunity cost loss by not making the move, and that's quantifiable to a degree. However, there is also an opportunity gain to a well orchestrated PR campaign and reveal.

This is the area where actuaries make their money. I don't put too much faith in those types of valuations, but common sense says that kids are not shy about jumping on the coolest new train in town.

Maybe I'm wrong and the UT decision makers are flipping coins. (Probably make the right decision 50% of the time anyways).

Yes, the opportunity cost is there for inaction, but how much of that cost is mitigated by making the "right" hire. The benefit of that would FAR outweigh any short-run cost.