Official Jon Gruden Thread XXV

[Godfatha]

Hyams just stated he has recently rechecked with his sources and they reiterated JG is not getting back into college coaching.

Shame

Hyams is a sour old bintie

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Hyams just stated he has recently rechecked with his sources and they reiterated JG is not getting back into college coaching.

Shame

I don't trust his sources. I think they all work for Butch Jones at this point. Hyams is a water carrier for a lame duck coaching staff.

 

[preacherwebb]

Pocket aces would be two Aces in hand, a guaranteed pair of the highest card in the deck. It's not unbeatable but means you have really good odds and can dictate the game.

meaning the boosters have all the leverage and have backed the AD into a corner, forcing them to call bluff or go all in ... bout right?

 

[VolPenn]

Hyams just stated he has recently rechecked with his sources and they reiterated JG is not getting back into college coaching.

Shame

His source is Butch Jones. TIFWIW.

 

[Hawkpilot]

So I am guessing we are waiting to see if Currie can slow play this long enough to beat the pocket aces that the Boosters think they are holding

I believe I have broke the code

You think he'd rather slow play or get it done and be a hero

 

[mrmax86]

He is certainly slow playing his hand.... He holds one King... Haslam

When is the flop, I think, is most of our issue at this point.

 

[NorCalVol67]

i got my sunday morning message finished and a jump start on next sunday morning as well.

been fairly productive.

We could all use a reminder that patience is a virtue.

 

[Chatt Vol]

Yeah, this is relatively unprecedented. It wouldn't surprise me if a few high level NCAA attorney's have been drafting policy statements for this exact reason. Answering some version of the question, "When can a prospective NCAA coach announce his employment when he is currently working for a major sports media outlet?"

It's uncharted waters, and I'm fascinated.

In this era, information and opinion moves fast. Once it drops, it'll change overnight - no matter how long we wait. In six months, it won't matter whether he was announced tomorrow, or Nov. 30.

I do have a suspicion, based on a mostly overlooked ATL post, that there are boosters and UT staff working behind the scenes to try and judge how many recruits we lose by waiting. There's a game theory analysis and CBA that is done. If the risk is less than the gain of time behind the scenes you delay as long as possible.

Controlling the spread of information can absolutely not be undervalued.

Really enjoy your posts.

 

[VolFan32]

For the love of all things holy it's H A S L A M.

I've seen it spelled 10 different ways on here.

 

[Sstterry]

Love Godfather but that was some of the worst fake fighting I've ever seen lol

Username checks out!

 

[Godfatha]

meaning the boosters have all the leverage and have backed the AD into a corner, forcing them to call bluff or go all in ... bout right?

That's just my understanding of what's been relayed here. I'm definitely not in the know

 

[preacherwebb]

Preacher, did you ever make it to the gif thread? You could have torn it up in there.

no man, no. i told y'all that i've barely been out of this thread since it all started back up again. it's hostile out there (pantera reference somewhere) and i like what we're discussing in here.

 

[jpope9]

while our AD has their thumb up their asses, florida is just moving right along after just a weekend.

 

[tastycar]

no man, no. i told y'all that i've barely been out of this thread since it all started back up again. it's hostile out there (pantera reference somewhere) and i like what we're discussing in here.

Hostile indeed

 

[VolFan32]

He is certainly slow playing his hand.... He holds one King... Haslam

And it sounds like the Ace may not be 1 player, but multiple big players. Ace trumps King. Let's see how Currie plays it out.

 

[MWR]

6-6, 340

I can verify this to be true. Met Oldvol75 at a Vol's game a few years ago. I'm 6' 1" and I looked like a munchkin beside him.

 

[Hawkpilot]

Yeah, this is relatively unprecedented. It wouldn't surprise me if a few high level NCAA attorney's have been drafting policy statements for this exact reason. Answering some version of the question, "When can a prospective NCAA coach announce his employment when he is currently working for a major sports media outlet?"

It's uncharted waters, and I'm fascinated.

In this era, information and opinion moves fast. Once it drops, it'll change overnight - no matter how long we wait. In six months, it won't matter whether he was announced tomorrow, or Nov. 30.

I do have a suspicion, based on a mostly overlooked ATL post, that there are boosters and UT staff working behind the scenes to try and judge how many recruits we lose by waiting. There's a game theory analysis and CBA that is done. If the risk is less than the gain of time behind the scenes you delay as long as possible.

Controlling the spread of information can absolutely not be undervalued.

So Cade is your third ACE. His tweets help raise the pot?

 

[Insunseri]

For the love of all things holy it's H A S L A M.

I've seen it spelled 10 different ways on here.

Jimmy?

 

[mrmax86]

And it sounds like the Ace may not be 1 player, but multiple big players. Ace trumps King. Let's see how Currie plays it out.

This isn't Spades, this is poker. There are no trumps.

 

[HearForGrumors]

i get it, googled batna Best ALTERNATIVE TO a negotiated agreement ...

so currie is weighing options, cost vs return on anyone not named gruden.

i still don't follow what you've pieced together.

i hate to be that guy, but ...

You've got it. The idea is where is Currie is he walks away. BATNA is essentially what happens if both parties walk away, what position are you in?

It gets far more complicated with multiple parties and numerous deal possibilities. For example, let's hypothetically say that Currie DOES have a deal with Mike Bobo. If he walked away from the Gruden deal, he'd still have the Bobo deal (his BATNA).

Now, if the coalition of boosters have said, "If you don't accept the Gruden deal we've brought you, we will discontinue donations in the amount of [$ HUGE], then Currie's BATNA would be (Bobo deal value - Booster money).

This is essentially the game theory approach MIT talked about. The deal that is being taken to the University is good enough that they shouldn't say no, in addition, the penalty for failing to accept the good offer is good enough that they shouldn't say no. Hence, I believe, is why he feels so confident.

 

[VFLnSFD]

Yeah, this is relatively unprecedented. It wouldn't surprise me if a few high level NCAA attorney's have been drafting policy statements for this exact reason. Answering some version of the question, "When can a prospective NCAA coach announce his employment when he is currently working for a major sports media outlet?"

It's uncharted waters, and I'm fascinated.

In this era, information and opinion moves fast. Once it drops, it'll change overnight - no matter how long we wait. In six months, it won't matter whether he was announced tomorrow, or Nov. 30.

I do have a suspicion, based on a mostly overlooked ATL post, that there are boosters and UT staff working behind the scenes to try and judge how many recruits we lose by waiting. There's a game theory analysis and CBA that is done. If the risk is less than the gain of time behind the scenes you delay as long as possible.

Controlling the spread of information can absolutely not be undervalued.

You are my new favorite. You really bring so much to the table.

 

[Coastypop]

Hyams just stated he has recently rechecked with his sources and they reiterated JG is not getting back into college coaching.

Shame

Hyams has been saying there is 0% chance Gruden would come to Tennessee .... If that is true, why would he feel the need to recheck his sources?

 

[FacelessArya]

Gruden to Northshore? Nice neighborhood for sure but I expect he would be in an even higher price bracket.

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I’m thinking Longview Estates. Off Northshore. Lots of Oak Trees there. And a house that may or may not have been looked at by the Grudens. It even has it’s own cave!

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[Behr]

Maybe nobody on the staff wants to be interim because they know there’s no chance of earning the permanent job because........... Gruden

Oh, okay. Gotta keep Butch then.

 

[Godfatha]

You've got it. The idea is where is Currie is he walks away. BATNA is essentially what happens if both parties walk away, what position are you in?

It gets far more complicated with multiple parties and numerous deal possibilities. For example, let's hypothetically say that Currie DOES have a deal with Mike Bobo. If he walked away from the Gruden deal, he'd still have the Bobo deal (his BATNA).

Now, if the coalition of boosters have said, "If you don't accept the Gruden deal we've brought you, we will discontinue donations in the amount of [$ HUGE], then Currie's BATNA would be (Bobo deal value - Booster money).

This is essentially the game theory approach MIT talked about. The deal that is being taken to the University is good enough that they shouldn't say no, in addition, the penalty for failing to accept the good offer is good enough that they shouldn't say no. Hence, I believe, is why he feels so confident.

Tasty carrot or big ole whooping stick