Recruiting Forum Talk XL

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InVOLuntary said:
Explains why you like Frost.
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bignewt said:
Exactly. Interim does nothing for us at this point. Let CBJ take the punches for the rest of the year and maybe scrape a few wins together. Get JG some growing pains. Let him go in December and introduce the new coach the next day. That is the way grown ups do it.
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The only problem I see, and I've said it before, is the longer he stays silent, the higher the expectations become that he has a big name in his pocket. The longer these Grumors go, the harder it's going to be when Chad Morris is hired.

Honestly, I'm going to be fine with a Brohm, Morris, Wilson hire. I think these are good coaches. However, I know for a fact I'll be in the minority on it when the time comes. People will be outraged.
 
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LA Vol said:
Keeping him longer is the path of least resistance. The chances for a good season are gone; we've already lost to all of our rivals and are going to finish near the bottom of the SEC. Can't change that now.

UT has already started due diligence and is working through intermediaries during the season. Other SEC schools are going to enter the mix soon, and then it will heat up. Texas and VT had a different landscape last year. There's going to be more competition for a small pool of names this year.
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It seems you'd know better than I, but I'd guess the Board is going to agree this week to move on from Butch at Currie's discretion and Currie will not make a move until we are bowl ineligible. Heck, he may not make a move at all until the end of the season.
 
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Catbone said:
How doesn't it?! Recruits are in limbo right now and the negative recruiting must be off the charts
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Interim won't do much to change that now. UT is already being portrayed as a dumpster fire. Recruits will either decommit or wait to see if we can put it out. The time to go to an interim was weeks ago.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
IDK what firing Butch now vs end of season would do for that?

How does firing your coach help the signing class in any way?
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I think it can be said that the admin is not worried about the early signing period. It may not end up being as great as it started, but if kids really want to play for an institution, then they'll make a wait and see approach. Nothing says they have to sign in Dec, they just can if they choose to.
There will be plenty of time to wait and see who the coach will be and then make their choice.
I bet this early signing won't be nearly as pivotal as every one thinks.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
The only problem I see, and I've said it before, is the longer he stays silent, the higher the expectations become that he has a big name in his pocket. The longer these Grumors go, the harder it's going to be when Chad Morris is hired.

Honestly, I'm going to be fine with a Brohm, Morris, Wilson hire. I think these are good coaches. However, I know for a fact I'll be in the minority on it when the time comes. People will be outraged.
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People will be regardless unless he says Gruden which he won't. In fact Gruden will probably publicly say he isn't taking the job way before December.
 
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On a bright note Florida is evolving. They came out yesterday in a loud and clear voice. Shark humping will not be tolerated!
 
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Kingston Vol said:
It seems you'd know better than I, but I'd guess the Board is going to agree this week to move on from Butch at Currie's discretion and Currie will not make a move until we are bowl ineligible. Heck, he may not make a move at all until the end of the season.
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Hyams said this morning that he thinks he'll be fired before the season is over. I'm thinking after a Southern Miss loss or LSU loss
 
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Catbone said:
How doesn't it?! Recruits are in limbo right now and the negative recruiting must be off the charts
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I agree... why do you guys think we keep losing recruits every week? This is a big deal and no one is talking about it. Recruits see that Butch is gone, but nothing is official, i can't see many wanting to take a chance to come here with him either gone or his days being numbered. If fired, at least they know what is going to happen moving forward, and they know a new coach/upgrade will be coming in so they can either wait and see or move on... limbo is not good. At this point we will be sacrificing an entire class, we will not end well... then in two years folks will be wondering why there is a gap in talent and will point back to this class... We all know in the SEC, and in our program particularly, we cannot "sacrifice" a class and lose a year of talent...
 
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volinbama256 said:
I agree... why do you guys think we keep losing recruits every week? This is a big deal and no one is talking about it. Recruits see that Butch is gone, but nothing is official, i can't see many wanting to take a chance to come here with him either gone or his days being numbered. If fired, at least they know what is going to happen moving forward, and they know a new coach/upgrade will be coming in so they can either wait and see or move on... limbo is not good. At this point we will be sacrificing an entire class, we will not end well... then in two years folks will be wondering why there is a gap in talent and will point back to this class... We all know in the SEC, and in our program particularly, we cannot "sacrifice" a class and lose a year of talent...
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An interim will also mean they will be in limbo. We can't help the timeline. Gruden would be great because he can come earlier. A sitting coach can't come until December.
 
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volinbama256 said:
I agree... why do you guys think we keep losing recruits every week? This is a big deal and no one is talking about it. Recruits see that Butch is gone, but nothing is official, i can't see many wanting to take a chance to come here with him either gone or his days being numbered. If fired, at least they know what is going to happen moving forward, and they know a new coach/upgrade will be coming in so they can either wait and see or move on... limbo is not good. At this point we will be sacrificing an entire class, we will not end well... then in two years folks will be wondering why there is a gap in talent and will point back to this class... We all know in the SEC, and in our program particularly, we cannot "sacrifice" a class and lose a year of talent...
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Firing CBJ doesn't stop the bleeding. Hiring a new coach does.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Firing CBJ doesn't stop the bleeding. Hiring a new coach does.
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On that front how many sitting coaches that have been mentioned on VN may have been actively recruiting the same players UT has been pursuing?

I imagine UCF for example has not been going after the same players .
 
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VolGee4 said:
An interim will also mean they will be in limbo. We can't help the timeline. Gruden would be great because he can come earlier. A sitting coach can't come until December.
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you are right, there really is no good scenario at this point. I would just think these recruits aren't uniformed and they are following this program very closely and most likely know we are going to make a change and have the money to make a good/better change... this might sway them to hold tight instead of moving on....

Again, I know it is what it is and there's not much we can do about it, I just hate losing talent...especially the possibility of losing Cade... He and Trey together could be special.
 
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BruinVol said:
Exactly and the hiring of the new coach isn't directly tied to the timing of his departure.
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Yep. People just want to know it's over. The ones that are still afraid he is coming back are reaching to come up with reasons to fire him now.

Once you accept that he is finished it makes it so much easier to watch this whole thing play out as a fan.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
On that front how many sitting coaches that have been mentioned on VN may have been actively recruiting the same players UT has been pursuing?

I imagine UCF for example has not been going after the same players .
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None besides Mullen, I would guess.

The play will be to ask our current commits (if they are unsure) to wait til February to sign so they can get to know the new coach.
 
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